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What do you think about Wing Shung? Bundeswehr Special Forces are trained by a turkish Teacher.
The reality within the special units around the globe is that after they receive the standard combatives training program their training continues with seminars that are teaching the personnel techniques, methods developed by different people that practice different styles.

We should understand that hand to hand combat training can differ from traditional martial arts training because of the needs. A soldier or a policeman should know how to establish control over the opponent, should know how he can assure his safety after control is being established by knowing in which situation the hands must be behind the head or on his sides for example or to know if the palms should face down or up, he should know ways of disturbance the explosive power of the target after establishment of control, when to command the target to get on his knees and when to lie on his belly, he should know how to restrain, cuff, search and transport the target in the right way ensuring his own safety and also the safety of the target. Usually these are things that are not being practiced in traditional martial arts schools. Almost every style could teach you to punch somebody in the face but not much styles could teach you how to properly restrain, search and transport a target.

Wing Chun is not a bad style but it lacks ranged techniques and grappling. A Wing Chung practitioner should practice often with practitioners of other styles because by training Wing Chung solely a lot of patterns and drills are being worked that usually are not seen in other styles. This however can lead to confusion. I think this is the reason why Wing Chung practitioners have problems facing more widely adopted styles like boxing or kickboxing for example. The same goes for Filipino styles. It just brings a confusion as they face something new and in this situation it is difficult to adapt to the new range etc. As a guy who have practiced with a guy that loves Wing Chun I can see both de benefits and deficiencies. I personally prefer more powerful and straightforward styles. Developing the right power for Wing Chun can bring good results in close range but needs a lot of work especially in the technical aspect. I am on the opinion that the base course should be consisted of basic kickboxing striking combinations, defence work (especially learning how to keep your hands up), basic takedowns, ground control positions, the most effective chokes and couple of the most effective locks applied to hands and feet. In the next stages I have nothing against practicing Wing Chung and getting the positives out of it because there are a lot of positives for sure but the base should be something that prepares you for the most widely seen situations and ways of fighting around.
 

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“Operation Readiness Trainings” were conducted in Izmir Bay and Aksaz with the participation of units and ships affiliated to the Amphibious Mission Group Command and elements affiliated with the Naval Command.
 

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U.S., Latvian, Polish, and Turkish Soldiers participated in a Best Mountain Warrior Competition on Camp Bondsteel and Mount Ljuboten, 1-3 November, 2021. The competition included a timed hike, a written test, a board, and stations testing various Soldier skills. B-roll shows Soldiers completing combat life-saving and rope bridge tasks.

 

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Special Forces Snipers from Greece, Turkey and a German Soldier

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ISTC Alpine Sniper Course 2021​

HOCHFILZEN, AUSTRIA​

09.21.2021​

Photo by Sgt. Patrik Orcutt

U.S. Special Operations Command Europe

Special Forces Snipers from Greece, Turkey and a German Soldier move off range to prep for night shooting at the International Specialty Training Center (ISTC) Alpine Sniper Course, in Hochfilzen training area, Austria, September 24th, 2021.The Alpine Sniper Course lasts two weeks and is designed to teach and train sniper teams the necessary skills to operate in mountainous terrain. (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Patrik Orcutt)
 

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Thousands of souls became eternal, The pain does not go out in our hearts.
For the country, for the honor, There is no turning back from this road.

Let the mountains be witnesses, stones be witnesses, Martyrs are immortal, the Homeland is indivisible...

We commemorate our glorious ancestors who were martyred in Sarıkamış with mercy, gratitude and respect.

 

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Thousands of souls became eternal, The pain does not go out in our hearts.
For the country, for the honor, There is no turning back from this road.

Let the mountains be witnesses, stones be witnesses, Martyrs are immortal, the Homeland is indivisible...

We commemorate our glorious ancestors who were martyred in Sarıkamış with mercy, gratitude and respect.



Footage of the aftermath.

Its really hard to bear the footage. Thousands of lives lost in an instant.
 

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Thousands of souls became eternal, The pain does not go out in our hearts.
For the country, for the honor, There is no turning back from this road.

Let the mountains be witnesses, stones be witnesses, Martyrs are immortal, the Homeland is indivisible...

We commemorate our glorious ancestors who were martyred in Sarıkamış with mercy, gratitude and respect.

Allah yerhamhom. I read that 25 000 soldiers died ofhypothermiain. Reminds me a little about how napoleons soldiers died when he invaded russia. Which leader was the one responsible for this?
 

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Allah yerhamhom. I read that 25 000 soldiers died ofhypothermiain. Reminds me a little about how napoleons soldiers died when he invaded russia. Which leader was the one responsible for this?

Ottoman higher command led by Enver Pasha.

The tactic of rapid advance was good on paper as it would take the Russians off guard but the biggest factors on why sarikarmish failed was the weather and the terrain. Going through the harsh eastern turkish terrain and the caucasus with a rapid advance was impossible. The Ottomans also had poor logistics to support such an advance. They sent soldiers to a winter fight with summer clothes.

It was a stupid gamble that costed us badly. Armenians also collarborated with the Russians which also revealed our positions.
 

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