TR Artillery Systems & Projects

[Stimpy75]

Fırtına

 

[AzeriTank]

Fırtına
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Is there a big order for Firtina?

 

[TheInsider]

140+ Fırtına-II order is pending due to lack of powerpack.

 

[Fighter_35]

140+ Fırtına-II order is pending due to lack of powerpack.

When BMC power engine for fırtına will be ready?

 

[Enderun]

Not only are they waiting for the completion of the power group, in my opinion they seem to be waiting for the fruits of their work on the subsystem and range, at the same time the work on the ammunition is coming to an end good point.

 

[Merzifonlu]

If you have the TRG/TRLG 122 and TRG/TRLG 230 guided artillery rocket systems, upgrading the 155mm howitzer systems will be your last concern. Especially when you have major weaknesses in air defense and missile defense systems. In this respect, I do not expect any improvement or new orders for T-155 Firtinas before 10 years. Maybe a company will complete the laser-guided 155 mm artillery ammunition business with its own funds.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Ukraine War has shown the importance of artillery in battlefield. Provided the accuracy of the rounds are increased with economical methods like ,

Aselsan “mesafece duzeltme” system, you can not beat the effect of an artillery barrage.
Unfortunately many artillery systems are not very accurate. And a great number of rounds are wasted. But at the same time spending 70+ thousand dollars for an Excalibur round is somehow can be seen as false economy unless you are taking out extremely strategic And important targets.
TRG and especially TRLG class of artillery rockets are not as cheap as standard artillery rounds either. But they are precision guided.

You can never have enough artillery systems. The more the merrier. We do need the extra 140+ Firtina 2 on order as well. I am all for increasing the artillery rounds’ range to 60-70-90 km. I believe there is work being conducted in Turkey along these lines, that will increase the range of our artillery systems. @Cabatli_TR had already mentioned this in an earlier post.

Artillery Systems & Projects

Firtina howitzer rounds: It is aimed to increase the range of 40 kilometers to 56 kilometers in the first place and to 72 kilometers later. By the end of this year, the 56 km target will be reached. Source: AA

defencehub.live

 

[Fighter_35]

If you have the TRG/TRLG 122 and TRG/TRLG 230 guided artillery rocket systems, upgrading the 155mm howitzer systems will be your last concern. Especially when you have major weaknesses in air defense and missile defense systems. In this respect, I do not expect any improvement or new orders for T-155 Firtinas before 10 years. Maybe a company will complete the laser-guided 155 mm artillery ammunition business with its own funds.

You can not have that much rockets but you can have thousands of 155 mm artilleries.

 

[Merzifonlu]

You can not have that much rockets but you can have thousands of 155 mm artilleries.

True. Since there are so many unguided munitions to be converted into guided munitions, I already said that after 10 years, it will be time for these systems.

If they weren't that many, I'd say, "Let's send them to the recycling center so we can get rid of these ammunition and systems."

 

[Windchime]

Ukraine War has shown the importance of artillery in battlefield. Provided the accuracy of the rounds are increased with economical methods like ,
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Aselsan “mesafece duzeltme” system, you can not beat the effect of an artillery barrage.
Unfortunately many artillery systems are not very accurate. And a great number of rounds are wasted. But at the same time spending 70+ thousand dollars for an Excalibur round is somehow can be seen as false economy unless you are taking out extremely strategic And important targets.
TRG and especially TRLG class of artillery rockets are not as cheap as standard artillery rounds either. But they are precision guided.

You can never have enough artillery systems. The more the merrier. We do need the extra 140+ on order as well. I am all for increasing the artillery rounds’ range to 60-70-90 km. I believe there is work being conducted in Turkey along these lines, that will increase the range of our artillery systems. @Cabatli_TR had already mentioned this in an earlier post.

Artillery Systems & Projects

Firtina howitzer rounds: It is aimed to increase the range of 40 kilometers to 56 kilometers in the first place and to 72 kilometers later. By the end of this year, the 56 km target will be reached. Source: AA

defencehub.live

So this is a very simple form of course correction fuse. I think it would be a very clever design if they're able to not only decrease velocity, but also divert the round by selectively applying the airbrakes. Though I think at that point it would be simpler to just add moving fins instead. Anyways, yes, even the US doesn't only use Excalibur. They have their own CCF as well. It's just that CCF are way less accurate than a full-blown guided shells and their usages are obviously different.

 

[TheInsider]

Fırtına-II is not far away. I expect engine tests on the Fırtına-II platform to start next year. In the meantime, small amounts of Fırtına-IIs can be delivered with the spare powerpacks we have (3 delivered so far if I remember correctly).

 

[Osman]

6 delivered so far

FIRTINA 2 OBÜS 'LERİ İÇİN MOTOR TESLİMATI HAZİRAN 2022 'DE BAŞLIYOR

2018 yılında imzalanan anlaşma altında Kara Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı (KKK) için sipariş edilen Yeni Nesil FIRTINA (FIRTINA-II) Kundağı Motorlu (K/M) Obüsleri için bir süredir beklenen 1.200bg kapasiteli 12 silindirli (V12) AVDS-1790-9A Dizel Motoru teslimatlarına Haziran 2022’de başlanılıyor...

www.defensehere.com

 

[Hexciter]

The first batch of 7 units of MKEK BORAN 105mm Air Portable Light Towed Howitzer was delivered.

A total of 150 howitzers are expected to be purchased.

BORAN weighs 1,780kg, has an effective range of 17km, can fire 6 shots per minute, and can be used with 5 personnel.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1604792128621592576

Another source says 106 for the total number to be purchased.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1604789327422259200

 

[zio]

This is what we are waiting for a long time.There is no base bleeding ammo on the web page of MKE.

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1607734684095586312

New wheeled 8x8 155mm Artillery designated Arpan-155 using BMC 8x8 undergoing tests.

ASFAT being main contractor in the project.

 

[AWP]

What’s the difference between Arpan-155 and MKE Yavuz T-155 ?

 

[Tornadoss]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1607734684095586312

New wheeled 8x8 155mm Artillery designated Arpan-155 using BMC 8x8 undergoing tests.

ASFAT being main contractor in the project.

Is Arpan abbreviation of something?

 

[Enderun]

Is Arpan abbreviation of something?

AR : vehicle PAN : Panther yada Türkce AR : Arac PAN : Panter
I think they used the abbreviation

 

[UkroTurk]

I wonder if Ukraine asked to purchase some FIRTINA vehicles .

 

[Ripley]

So, if this is Panther mounted on truck, it’s a new system and called ARPAN.
Then what happened to Yavuz?