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I think using MLRS launched 300mms or Bora/Khan at that range is easier, and cheaper. For anything you want to hit 150kms away, you'd want more explosive filler than what a 155mm round can give you.

The naval gun option though, that's interesting.
 

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I think using MLRS launched 300mms or Bora/Khan at that range is easier, and cheaper. For anything you want to hit 150kms away, you'd want more explosive filler than what a 155mm round can give you.
You are right, but there are concept that only US can practically afford to develop due to their budget size and financial capability. Let’s see how far this can go.

But personally i think Boeing-Nammo's 155mm ramjet rounds are more practical.
 

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MDK 155mm distance correction kit tests are started.
Truck-mounted panter howitzer tests are started.
The fire rate of Fırtına 2 increased to 8 per minute. For comparison, Fırtına 1 has a fire of 6 per minute.

Aselsan annual report.
 

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MDK 155mm distance correction kit tests are started.
Truck-mounted panter howitzer tests are started.
The fire rate of Fırtına 2 increased to 8 per minute. For comparison, Fırtına 1 has a fire of 6 per minute.

Aselsan annual report.
K9 had a 6 to 8 RPM, same possibly can be said for T155. They claim 8 to 10 rounds for K9A2 with autoloader and all 48 rounds are in the turret and accessible by the system.
Wonder how is it with Fırtına II.
 

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6 and 8 are continuous fire rates over a long period of time like 480 rounds per hour.
6-8 rounds/min is the rapid fire rate
(prolonged firing at this high rate would overheat and damage the barrel)

3 rounds/min for sustained fire without tear and wear of barrel is the optimal cadence.
 

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K9 had a 6 to 8 RPM, same possibly can be said for T155. They claim 8 to 10 rounds for K9A2 with autoloader and all 48 rounds are in the turret and accessible by the system.
Wonder how is it with Fırtına II.
K9A2: 9-10 rounds/min with fully automated loader (2 „versions“ currently with 6.6 seconds and 6 seconds loading time).

All 48 ammo rounds and 240 insensitive propellant charges are stored in the newly designed turret. AFAIK Firtina-II uses a different autoloader tech with approx 7.5-8 seconds loading time. Not sure if Firtina-II need a manual loading of the charge like PzH 2000.

K9A2 new autoloader/barrel animation, turn on English subtitles (automated translation):

 

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6-8 rounds/min is the rapid fire rate
(prolonged firing at this high rate would overheat and damage the barrel)

3 rounds/min for sustained fire without tear and wear of barrel is the optimal cadence.
True I confused it with the MRSI (Multiple Rounds Single Impact) rapid firing pattern of 3 consecutive rounds by using different angles and landing them on a single target at the same time for the maximum impact.
 

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naval 76mm
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Any news update regarding domestic engine for Firtina 2 OBUS ?

It's annoying me greatly that the progress seems so slow.
 

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ALKAR Mortar System, originally designed entirely by ASELSAN, provides usability within any tactical and operational structuring.

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Although Fatah-iI is really good and Turkey doesn’t have anything similar in class for that range, but Roketsan could easily develop one. So, I really doubt TAF will want to buy it.
 

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Although Fatah-iI is really good and Turkey doesn’t have anything similar in class for that range, but Roketsan could easily develop one. So, I really doubt TAF will want to buy it.
True but Turkiye got Mushaks as an offset. Something similar might happen.
 

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