TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

[Tsenal]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1466752288194768902

well it’s December and AFP should be receiving their first 2 T129 very soon

Is this going to be single barrel?

 

[Combat-Master]

T129 Atak 20mm gatling gun TrMekatronic

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1466789334175076359

Looking forward to seeing the 30mm Cannon they are developing for ATAK-II

 

[Oublious]

Morocco expressed interest in the deal in 2018, but the US-imposed sanctions slowed the deal. Morocco have went for apaches so i dont know how credible the new reports is. I read this recently:

«Morocco reportedly selected the Apache after rejecting the TAI T129, apparently after Moroccan authorities considered that the Turkish helicopter had “not satisfied expectations” during a Syrian deployment. More recently, however, it has emerged that Morocco is once again in negotiations with Turkey for the supply of 22 T129s to augment its new Apaches»

Eeeh Syrian deployement was a succes, you can watch how T129 killed hewals...

 

[Saithan]

Is this going to be single barrel?

No it’s the 3 barrel one. I don’t quite understand it myself

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Eeeh Syrian deployement was a succes, you can watch how T129 killed hewals...

Thats why i mentioned "Morocco have went for apaches so i dont know how credible the new reports is". I remember i read that the atak had some problems during their operations in syria, but that they have been modified to better standards after their experience. Hopefully morocco will go for the T129, however i dont know why they would go for a move like that when they recently went for 24 Apaches+ 12 optional.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

20mm national single cannon of attack helicopters three barrel gatling gun

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Any new news regarding T-929 (Atak-II) ?

 

[TheInsider]

The first flight is planned for March 2023.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

The first flight is planned for March 2023.

Pricetag?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Any new news regarding T-929 (Atak-II) ?

Production of the first prototype should have started now. We will probably see the first prototype in the mid or last quarter of 2022.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Production of the first prototype should have started now. We will probably see the first prototype in the mid or last quarter of 2022.

Cant wait to see the first prototype!!

 

[Manomed]

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Thats why i mentioned "Morocco have went for apaches so i dont know how credible the new reports is". I remember i read that the atak had some problems during their operations in syria, but that they have been modified to better standards after their experience. Hopefully morocco will go for the T129, however i dont know why they would go for a move like that when they recently went for 24 Apaches+ 12 optional.

What problems?

 

[Huelague]

Hope we are working on a stealth helicopter.

 

[TheInsider]

I don't think it will be cheaper than 50 million $.

 

[Huelague]

I don't think it will be cheaper than 50 million $.

What?

 

[Huelague]

Attack unit price is ~20$ million.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Attack unit price is ~20$ million.

I think you got it wrong. Atak-129 is around 40-45 million dollars a piece. Pakistan was going to pay over 1.5 billion dollars for 30 of them.
Apache costs over 100 million a piece to buy. Morocco is to pay 4.25 billion for 36 Apache helicopters. That includes all ancillaries and training etc. But that is the price level. Naked Apache may cost as little as 35-40 million dollars to manufacture. But with ancillaries and “profit” margin for the know how you have developed (even though it is not given) and the credit line provisions, the price escalates. When it is military sales one should forget about production costs. But consider cost of selling.

Pakistan, Turkey Sign Deal for 30 Helicopter Gunships

Pakistan has officially signed a contract for 30 Turkish-made attack helicopters last week.

thediplomat.com

US greenlights $4 billion attack helicopter sale to Kuwait

Kuwait is now approved to buy new AH-64E Apache attack helicopters and remanufacture its old "D" models into the latest variant.

www.defensenews.com

 

[Huelague]

I think you got it wrong. Atak-129 is around 40-45 million dollars a piece. Pakistan was going to pay over 1.5 billion dollars for 30 of them.
Apache costs over 100 million a piece to buy. Morocco is to pay 4.25 billion for 36 Apache helicopters. That includes all ancillaries and training etc. But that is the price level. Naked Apache may cost as little as 35-40 million dollars to manufacture. But with ancillaries and “profit” margin for the know how you have developed (even though it is not given) and the credit line provisions, the price escalates. When it is military sales one should forget about production costs. But consider cost of selling.

Pakistan, Turkey Sign Deal for 30 Helicopter Gunships

Pakistan has officially signed a contract for 30 Turkish-made attack helicopters last week.

thediplomat.com

US greenlights $4 billion attack helicopter sale to Kuwait

Kuwait is now approved to buy new AH-64E Apache attack helicopters and remanufacture its old "D" models into the latest variant.

www.defensenews.com

I remember that Temel Kotil said, T-129 cost 20$ mio. Maybe he means just the naked plane.

 

[Brokengineer]

T129 ATAK'ın Milli Görev Bilgisayarına Giden Yol...

T129 ATAK Taarruz ve Taktik Keşif Helikopterinde de kullanılan Türkiye'nin ilk milli görev bilgisayarının geliştirilme serüveni...

www.savunmasanayist.com

One of the proud feeling moments that how Turkey developed its mission computers for helicopters.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1476592506049646594

TAI delivered the last ATAK helicopter of the year.