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The only 3000HP class engine produced by RR was Turbomecha RTM322, which actually develops 2600-3000HP .

But the complete production line has been given to Safran now. So Safran is not going to sell them to us.
I'm sure they still have the blueprints,we could call it ''indigenous''.
Why dont we have the kind of people able to investigate and make such deals,or do we?
 

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Everything is possible, always. It's not a bigger claim than using Ukrainian engines for serial production birds. Relations have been thawing since the last year. If the idea is to get closer to Europe, getting closer to France is also necessary. Though locally produced T700 would still be the best option.
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Göksu is a horrible name for a helicopter.
Yeah, no. Getting closer to France is impossible, especially since Armenian, Greek, Cypriot and Jewish lobbies are too powerful there and their populace would never accept France working closely with a "Muslim" country, especially us. They have been against us even after all the European rearmament stuff, they blocked ammo being bought from us for Ukraine and you think they'll work with us? Then I've got a bridge to sell you my friend.

It is more likely that I'll sprout wings from my back and start flying than France letting us get engines.
 

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According to latest news coming out from the region;
Due to excessive bombing by the Russians there is no engine coming out of the Motor Sich factory that are related to turbofans.
However the helicopter engine production, specifically the TV3-117VMA-SBM1V engine, seems to be still alive. However, how long this can be the case, is anybody’s guess.
We can bring them to Turkiye and produce them safe here but our 3000hp engine should aslo produced
 

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What a talk about France without knowing it. France supplied TR-40 engines for Atmaca and SOM missiles for years, when Turkey cant buy those from anywhere else. With right price and politics, France can sell anything. But French stuff are expensive and they produce time is too long. Which Turkey has no time and extra money to spend on France. So they are not a likely candidate.

Using Ukrainian engines without getting license is mad. But again Ukraine is not giving any license. Because they dont have qualification to teach some other companies to, how to build engine. They are dying breath.

Only T-700 series engines are good option for Turkey but with this political climate it is really far shoot. TEI already producing T-700 for T-70.

TEI already said they are working on engine for T-925 but it will take time and I dont think it will similar to TV3-117VMA, so that may need modification on T-925 which is not good.

They need to fix the engines first to move forward on this adventure.
 

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According to latest news coming out from the region;
Due to excessive bombing by the Russians there is no engine coming out of the Motor Sich factory that are related to turbofans.
However the helicopter engine production, specifically the TV3-117VMA-SBM1V engine, seems to be still alive. However, how long this can be the case, is anybody’s guess.
There's an urgent need to move production to Türkiye even securing the rights.
 

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How can it be CSAR without self protection systems,photo by cem doğut.
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The livery used on delivered Gökbey's does them such a disservice when they can look this good with a proper paint job
 

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The livery used on delivered Gökbey's does them such a disservice when they can look this good with a proper paint job

Agree. Never been a fan of this livery.

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Not only the livery scheme but the colors also bother me.
What is this?
Patrouille de France support helicopter or something?
 

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The 'missing piece' in Türkiye's naval puzzle: Rotary-wing aircrafts​


The first paragraph alone is more than enough to display insufficient and even neglected situation of Turkish Navy’s rotary wing fleet.

“The Turkish Navy's fleet of 24 Sikorsky S-70B Seahawk helicopters is facing mounting operational pressure as Ankara pursues a relatively aggressive naval expansion program, which includes at least 31 warships currently under construction.”

And below are some paragraphs that breakdown our missing and much needed mission profiles, capabilities for our envisioned fleet operations.

"In the future, when Turkish Navy task groups conduct operations from Anadolu at extended distances and without the support of friendly air bases, they will need their own AEW&C systems," Yaylali added.

"The most plausible solution for this requirement is a ship-based AEW&C system carried by an unmanned aerial vehicle specifically designed for this mission," Yaylali stated, adding that he is not aware of whether any work is currently underway in this area.


We’re too slow, lagging behind every naval operational requirements but we really can’t afford to be too late.
 

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The 'missing piece' in Türkiye's naval puzzle: Rotary-wing aircrafts​


The first paragraph alone is more than enough to display insufficient and even neglected situation of Turkish Navy’s rotary wing fleet.

“The Turkish Navy's fleet of 24 Sikorsky S-70B Seahawk helicopters is facing mounting operational pressure as Ankara pursues a relatively aggressive naval expansion program, which includes at least 31 warships currently under construction.”

And below are some paragraphs that breakdown our missing and much needed mission profiles, capabilities for our envisioned fleet operations.

"In the future, when Turkish Navy task groups conduct operations from Anadolu at extended distances and without the support of friendly air bases, they will need their own AEW&C systems," Yaylali added.

"The most plausible solution for this requirement is a ship-based AEW&C system carried by an unmanned aerial vehicle specifically designed for this mission," Yaylali stated, adding that he is not aware of whether any work is currently underway in this area.


We’re too slow, lagging behind every naval operational requirements but we really can’t afford to be too late.
TAI T625 Gökbey is ready or needs some small modifications for navy ?
 

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TAI T625 Gökbey is ready or needs some small modifications for navy ?
Gökbey is ready alright. Around 60 is on order already but a navalized version of Gökbey is a totally new ball game. There’s no small modifications, I’m afraid.

According to Mr. Kozan Erkan, "As the navy grows, the Gokbey helicopter is being developed to withstand corrosion and harsh maritime conditions for anti-submarine warfare and vertical lift missions. Procuring the new version of the S-70 is not currently on the agenda; the plan is to meet this need entirely with Gokbey."

 
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