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It's beautiful, but deliveries are far too few. I hope to see more Gökbey deliveries, and more than our need. +50 more than our need would be good. As we can see how easy it is to sell ready to be shipped products to 3rd countries
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Per what's available, production will not continue for T70. Apart from what was already on the line with parts ordered from abroad, there won't be more deliveries.
I don't think anyone's ordering 50 20+ million helicopters just to find them suitors in the future. Production line will be open for years, it'll find its customers.
Thinking about it, I'm more interested in why HvKK is getting a rather large share of T70s. They already operated 20 Cougars in SAR and CSAR variants, with total of 6 T70s on order. Violethawk was a SAR variant, other 3 I think are CSAR variants. They also ordered 4 T625s. Maybe Cougars are slowly being readied to be retired, which would make the need for T925 an even bigger urgency.
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According to latest news, due to sanctions applied to Turkish defence entities by USA, the T70 production has almost come to a halt. There are a limited amount of helicopters that can be produced.
Apart from that, the licence agreement with Sikorsky was coming to an end anyway; and we couldn’t manufacture more than 38 helicopters in total out of 109 previously programmed.
However TEI had already produced 63 engines for the programme by end of 2021 and delivered 50 of them and was still working to meet the total engine quantity of 236 pieces. We don’t know how many of these engines are in stock right now and what the ownership rights on them are.
TEI was producing the T700-TEI-701D engine version with over 60% locality rate that included the hot parts.
These engines have potential to develop 3000HP shaft power output. (GE have a version that is rated at 3000HP). TEI could copy/redesign this engine as they did with the CTS-800 to introduce enough changes, and make it our own. These new engines can be used in T925 and T929 helicopters.
With helicopters being so expensive and easy targets in any battlefront duty, they may seem to be not such urgent platforms to produce. But for logistics, troop and equipment relocatiion, naval attack and reconnaissance duties they are very important. We do need a good quantity of these.
TEI Delivers the 50th T700-TEI-701D Engine
www.defenceturkey.com
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Original design with high tail was cool. I heard weight was dropped, do they plan on making a heavier helicopter later down the track with a similar design to the original concept?
Edit: never mind, seems like it's now even heavier than originally planned. Still no idea why rear ramp was removed though
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A very good question, Sir!!
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Maybe they'll get the American GE T700 series 3000hp engines?A very good question, Sir!!
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More like Ukrainian but if we can get engines for gökbey then there is a chance
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There is not a single "atomic-size" chance, sir! Hahaha
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According to latest news coming out from the region;
Due to excessive bombing by the Russians there is no engine coming out of the Motor Sich factory that are related to turbofans.
However the helicopter engine production, specifically the TV3-117VMA-SBM1V engine, seems to be still alive. However, how long this can be the case, is anybody’s guess.
Due to excessive bombing by the Russians there is no engine coming out of the Motor Sich factory that are related to turbofans.
However the helicopter engine production, specifically the TV3-117VMA-SBM1V engine, seems to be still alive. However, how long this can be the case, is anybody’s guess.
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RR maybe?
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Is that the engine with the Black smoke seen on ATAK 2 first lift off?
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The only 3000HP class engine produced by RR was Turbomecha RTM322, which actually develops 2600-3000HP .
But the complete production line has been given to Safran now. So Safran is not going to sell them to us.
But the complete production line has been given to Safran now. So Safran is not going to sell them to us.
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Yes. I believe the version on Atak 2 doesn’t even have FADEC, even though it should.
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So,either they are joking because they have other options or they are dumb stupid idiots.
I guess the smart ones have already left the building.
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Everything is possible, always. It's not a bigger claim than using Ukrainian engines for serial production birds. Relations have been thawing since the last year. If the idea is to get closer to Europe, getting closer to France is also necessary. Though locally produced T700 would still be the best option.
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Göksu is a horrible name for a helicopter.
