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Turkish engineer 'turned the power' overcame the embargo

The difficulties that arise from time to time for military vehicles and equipment procured from abroad for the needs of the security forces are also experienced in the supply of subsystems and units used in these platforms in the future. Turkish defense industry companies are doing localization studies for platforms developed nationally in order to prevent such situations.

Power management is of great importance in all electronic systems. "Military AC/DC converters" designed in accordance with military and aviation standards are used for both energy management and energy conversion. Anova R&D Technologies created a domestic product family from converters that were supplied from abroad in the past but could not be obtained recently.

İbrahim Altunsoy, Anova R&D Technologies Electronic Design Manager, told Anadolu Agency (AA) that there are 2 main manufacturers of AC/DC converters in the world.

Emphasizing that there were no offers for products whose intellectual property rights are abroad, and that there were supply problems, Altunsoy pointed out that even if the products are found today, it is unclear whether they will be found in the future.

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Produced for the first time in the world

Explaining that solutions can be produced for different current and voltage levels with modular AC/DC converters, Altunsoy stated that they have been working on developing these products, which are widely used in the Turkish defense and aerospace industry, for a while.

Stating that they produced 2500-watt modular AC/DC converters for the first time in the world to meet the special needs of the platform on which they will be located, Altunsoy said:

"Thus, we localized a product that was not produced by current manufacturers, upon need. Later, we expanded our work for a domestic product family with smaller 50, 100, 250, and 500 watt versions. The 500 watt AC/DC converter had been used on an aerial platform for 10 years. The converter inside can no longer be supplied. A power unit that manages the helicopter's weapon system. Without this, the platform would either fly unarmed or a new solution had to be developed. We produced this product in a short time with the experience we gained. It will be attached to the platform soon. The deliveries of the 2500-watt product have begun, the 500-watt We will start the deliveries of the new version of this year. The qualification of our domestic AC/DC converters has been completed, and the tests at the platform level are continuing. As a result of the activities that started in 2016, we both meet the domestic product needs in current projects and created a domestic product family."

Stating that there is a need for power converters wherever there are electronic systems, weapons, radar, navigation systems, all kinds of computers, calculations and sensor units are fed from these power converters, Altunsoy said, "Our products will be released in the first quarter of next year on the DC/DC side. AC/DC is relatively difficult. It's an area. The number of producers is very limited. We prioritized it because we needed it ourselves." said.

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Delivery times and costs are reduced

Noting that when AC/DC converters are wanted to be purchased from abroad, delivery times can take up to 30-40 weeks, Altunsoy said that the delivery time of domestic products is limited to 4-6 weeks. Stating that they will deliver 30 products in a short time, Altunsoy noted that this way, disruptions in the project calendars will be prevented.

Stating that besides delivery times, significant cost advantage will be achieved with domestic products, Altunsoy stated that domestic AC/DC converters can be supplied at a price of one third.

Altunsoy stated that AC/DC converters are widely used in aircraft as well as platforms with limited space such as ships, submarines, and electric rail transport vehicles.

Altunsoy underlined that the product, whose number of producers is very limited, also has a serious export potential.

Export time in military fan

Anova R&D Technologies has recently created a product family by localizing the most frequently used fans for military purposes.

While the cost is halved with domestic fans, the product family with 14 different fans attracts great attention. There are more than 2,000 open orders for fans in the country. Foreign talks for fans have also started. Anova aims to realize its first fan export this year.

Another localized product, the flexible bullet track, was exported to 15 countries.
 

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Turkish engineer 'turned the power' overcame the embargo

The difficulties that arise from time to time for military vehicles and equipment procured from abroad for the needs of the security forces are also experienced in the supply of subsystems and units used in these platforms in the future. Turkish defense industry companies are doing localization studies for platforms developed nationally in order to prevent such situations.

Power management is of great importance in all electronic systems. "Military AC/DC converters" designed in accordance with military and aviation standards are used for both energy management and energy conversion. Anova R&D Technologies created a domestic product family from converters that were supplied from abroad in the past but could not be obtained recently.

İbrahim Altunsoy, Anova R&D Technologies Electronic Design Manager, told Anadolu Agency (AA) that there are 2 main manufacturers of AC/DC converters in the world.

Emphasizing that there were no offers for products whose intellectual property rights are abroad, and that there were supply problems, Altunsoy pointed out that even if the products are found today, it is unclear whether they will be found in the future.

EKIM%202021%2Fguc2.jpg


Produced for the first time in the world

Explaining that solutions can be produced for different current and voltage levels with modular AC/DC converters, Altunsoy stated that they have been working on developing these products, which are widely used in the Turkish defense and aerospace industry, for a while.

Stating that they produced 2500-watt modular AC/DC converters for the first time in the world to meet the special needs of the platform on which they will be located, Altunsoy said:

"Thus, we localized a product that was not produced by current manufacturers, upon need. Later, we expanded our work for a domestic product family with smaller 50, 100, 250, and 500 watt versions. The 500 watt AC/DC converter had been used on an aerial platform for 10 years. The converter inside can no longer be supplied. A power unit that manages the helicopter's weapon system. Without this, the platform would either fly unarmed or a new solution had to be developed. We produced this product in a short time with the experience we gained. It will be attached to the platform soon. The deliveries of the 2500-watt product have begun, the 500-watt We will start the deliveries of the new version of this year. The qualification of our domestic AC/DC converters has been completed, and the tests at the platform level are continuing. As a result of the activities that started in 2016, we both meet the domestic product needs in current projects and created a domestic product family."

Stating that there is a need for power converters wherever there are electronic systems, weapons, radar, navigation systems, all kinds of computers, calculations and sensor units are fed from these power converters, Altunsoy said, "Our products will be released in the first quarter of next year on the DC/DC side. AC/DC is relatively difficult. It's an area. The number of producers is very limited. We prioritized it because we needed it ourselves." said.

EKIM%202021%2Fgucc1.jpg


Delivery times and costs are reduced

Noting that when AC/DC converters are wanted to be purchased from abroad, delivery times can take up to 30-40 weeks, Altunsoy said that the delivery time of domestic products is limited to 4-6 weeks. Stating that they will deliver 30 products in a short time, Altunsoy noted that this way, disruptions in the project calendars will be prevented.

Stating that besides delivery times, significant cost advantage will be achieved with domestic products, Altunsoy stated that domestic AC/DC converters can be supplied at a price of one third.

Altunsoy stated that AC/DC converters are widely used in aircraft as well as platforms with limited space such as ships, submarines, and electric rail transport vehicles.

Altunsoy underlined that the product, whose number of producers is very limited, also has a serious export potential.

Export time in military fan

Anova R&D Technologies has recently created a product family by localizing the most frequently used fans for military purposes.

While the cost is halved with domestic fans, the product family with 14 different fans attracts great attention. There are more than 2,000 open orders for fans in the country. Foreign talks for fans have also started. Anova aims to realize its first fan export this year.

Another localized product, the flexible bullet track, was exported to 15 countries.
Are these using silicone semiconductors materials or GaN? Any technical details about it?
 

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That product family uses silicone semiconductors. They are military-grade AC/DC converters. They comply with NATO MIL-STD standards. They are designed to be used in an EMI/EMC environment so radars are electronic warfare systems won't interfere with them or they won't interfere with radar or electronic warfare systems. They are durable and ruggedized. They are over %90 efficient at maximum load. (A computer PSU that has a 90+ certificate achieves that value at half load.)
 

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Where did you get these if I may ask?
Is t629 program being carried out simultaneously with the gokbey, will it use ts1400 do you jave any info.
We don’t have much information on 629 nor whether it will use domestic TS1400 engine. My reasoning tells me that platform would be perfect to prove the capabilities of TS1400 and our avionics for Atak, and it would be an indigenous design.

It could carry on the legacy of T129 even as export product. Most important would be proving we can do it. Instead of postponing to later design because we all want to see military grade engine on a working platform.
 

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about tfx there is no way they can make a better engine till 2030 the engine they want is even much more complicated than F35 or F22 engines
Who said it would be much more complex than F35 or F22 engines?
 
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Who said it would be much more complex than F35 or F22 engines?
Have you seen the specs of the engine they want to create? They trying to make engine better than F22 engine We should Stick to the F110 we shouldn't wander into places that we can't make this will bankrupt the project
 

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about tfx there is no way they can make a better engine till 2030 the engine they want is even much more complicated than F35 or F22 engines
No. It is very similar to F110 with some improvements. F-110-GE-132 has 32500lbf (145kN) thrust so 32-35000 lbf is a realistic target. We basically want an improved F-110. The US will introduce adaptive cycle engines in F-110s place.
 

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