Azerbaijan Armenia Tensions

[Afif]

You really need to calm down. Are you even reading what you are writing?

No race or ethnicity deserve extermination. Period.

The war is over. what is the point of still carrying so much heat?

 

[B_A]

Both Turkey and Azerbaijan are willing to come together but the Central Asian Turks are idiotic they see the Turks are being genocide in China, and Afghanistan, yet they do nothing or say nothing. They remember how the Russian tested their nuclear bombs on them to the point that some of them are still born with health problems today, but they are still insistent on keeping Turkey at arm's length.

I believe that the Zangezur corridor is overhyped even with the corridor it will take over 18 hours to cross the Caspian Sea. I feel like it would be much easier and better for Turkey to create a Transcaucasia union with Georgia and Azerbaijan, and then slowly expand it to the Turkic world.

If you know any chinese uyghurs you will be shocked.

Most of them proud of PRC and want to become a communsist officer.Even they come to Turkiye they still always say how China is good.

What they shout is that ”We loving PRC so truly and deep ,why han Chinese against us?"

they keep the chinese pasaport and willing to back to China to be a communist officer or polise

 

[Yasar_TR]

Please be warned that any article that has racist hatred or wording that incites violence and genocide will be deleted and automatic warnings and a possible ban will be issued.
Please stay civil in your discussions.

 

[GoatsMilk]

If you know any chinese uyghurs you will be shocked.

Most of them proud of PRC and want to become a communsist officer.Even they come to Turkiye they still always say how China is good.

What they shout is that ”We loving PRC so truly and deep ,why han Chinese against us?"

they keep the chinese pasaport and willing to back to China to be a communist officer or polise

Ultimately we have a duty to wake our brothers up. We can't simply allow this dire situation to go on indefinitely.

The devil and her lackeys want to see us divided, he wants to see us worshipping our oppressors. But history is a reality for the future, no matter how many Turks are defeated, there is going to be Turks who will rise up past the challenges of his time.

The most important thing is not to worry about what others are doing, just worry about what you are doing. Do what you can within your means. That's all that's required. Eventually enough of us doing the right thing will enact the change we want to see.

 

[B_A]

Ultimately we have a duty to wake our brothers up. We can't simply allow this dire situation to go on indefinitely.

The devil and her lackeys want to see us divided, he wants to see us worshipping our oppressors. But history is a reality for the future, no matter how many Turks are defeated, there is going to be Turks who will rise up past the challenges of his time.

The most important thing is not to worry about what others are doing, just worry about what you are doing. Do what you can within your means. That's all that's required. Eventually enough of us doing the right thing will enact the change we want to see.

I meant we have to action as soon as possible. Chinese are masters in brain-washing, far better than Soviet Russians.

We accept the loan and money from China (to buy Chinese goods) and keep silent on this.

 

[GoatsMilk]

A couple of interesting comments from an american and korean on Azerbaijan reddit:

American comment:

"As an American, I was much more sympathetic towards Armenia back in 2020 and viewed Azeris as aggressors, but after lurking on the Armenia and Azerbaijan subreddits in the past few days, my perspective has completely shifted after learning more about the history of the conflict as well as seeing the vitriol that Armenians have for everyone from Azeris to Americans and Europeans, as if it's our fault they chose to invade Azerbaijan and also chose to ally with Russia, and that we should have supported them more. It's completely delusional."

Korean:

"Korean here. I also experienced something similar; I learned about this conflict in 2020 because my Instagram was flooded with reposts about it, and originally I thought that the situation in Karabakh was similar to what our Taiwan brothers were facing.

I decided to do some legal research about it, seeing that it was so extensively covered and that the media seemed supportive towards Armenian interests. But I couldn't find any legal justification for "Artsakh" independence whatsoever. And Armenia's "arguments" for it were legitimately insane. It sounded exactly like what Russia was doing with Ukraine and Crimea.

I've had many great friends from the Balkans and I learned how dangerous ethnonationalism can be, and yet when I read the relevant threads on the Armenia and Europe subreddits all I see is jingoist claims, entitlement, victim mentality and pure hatred for anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint and insane accusations of complicity. If there is one thing I absolutely hate more than anything, it is misinformation. But try explaining your viewpoint backed up by legal evidence and you just get called inhuman. They have to be some of the greatest emotional manipulators out there."

Ill add this, Armenian bullshit only has wind in its sails because it is actively supported and encouraged by many western actors who use Armenians against the Turks for their own interest. If the western powers and russia didn't make it a blackmail point against Turkiye, no one would know or care about armenian lies. Its very similar to how the western media constantly runs stories about Turks committing genocide on Kurds, its the same game. They want to use minorities to destabilise Turkiye and the wider region. None of these powers care about neither Kurds or Armenians, they only care that they can be used to further geopolitical interests.

 

[Agha Sher]

Azerbaijani soldier killed by Armenian sniper fire at the border!

 

[TR_123456]

Azerbaijani soldier killed by Armenian sniper fire at the border!

So,where are the drones,why not monitor the border region with drones?
Damn soviet mentality.

 

[B_A]

In a ”if” case、If Turkiye and Azerbaijan become a Federation,can Azerbaijan automatically enter NATO?

​

 

[Afif]

In a ”if” case、If Turkiye and Azerbaijan become a Federation,can Azerbaijan automatically enter NATO?

​

Likely not.

 

[Huelague]

In a ”if” case、If Turkiye and Azerbaijan become a Federation,can Azerbaijan automatically enter NATO?

​

NATO (USA) would love to see AZ in NATO.

 

[Agha Sher]

NATO (USA) would love to see AZ in NATO.

Indeed. Would open up Central Asia to nato influence. Russia exposed from all 4 sides while China exposed from 2 sides

 

[Rooxbar]

The Western media outlets and in their wake, their propagandized populations' reaction to this event and their empty baseless but ubiquitous whining about ethnic cleansing and even "genocide" in Karabakh while they cannot find even one civilian with a bleeding nose while leaving Karabakh goes to show how a propagandized population and their backers who are at the core of empire with shared identity can use their media power to completely reverse reality for their populations and even the majority of the world at large, even in this age where everyone is a journalist with their own camera (phone) and their their own tv channel (social media). So if you can do it in this day and age, imagine what you could do 100 years ago; and that is exactly the story of the so-called "Armenian G*nocide".

Look at how right now they are literally calling it a genocide while not one civilian has died in this process AND THEY ARE THE AGGRESSORS, and they did the killings already. Now you can use your imagination about their prior claims of genocide, and how that might have went. It was the exact same thing. They were the aggressors, they allied with the country's enemy at the time of war, when as an ethnic group they had immense power and privileges in the court of Ottoman rulers (the kind of power, privilege and influence that Turks and Kurds could onyl ever dream of); the reaction by Turks and Kurds was much more muted in comparison; but immediately they started completely ignoring their actions and massacres, mythologizing the Turkish reaction instead, exaggerating the numbers of perished, and adding to the number as every decade passed, reaching a number now that is twice the number of Armenians living inside Ottoman borders according to their own census by their religious authorities, while we know hundreds of thousands of them moved to Russia, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, America and Argentina.

We cannot mount any kind of tangible defence on the media and propaganda front, because of lower base of educated people, that is it.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Just out of interest is this the first time a that Russian frozen conflict has been completely defeated?

 

[B_A]

The Western media outlets and in their wake, their propagandized populations' reaction to this event and their empty baseless but ubiquitous whining about ethnic cleansing and even "genocide" in Karabakh while they cannot find even one civilian with a bleeding nose while leaving Karabakh goes to show how a propagandized population and their backers who are at the core of empire with shared identity can use their media power to completely reverse reality for their populations and even the majority of the world at large, even in this age where everyone is a journalist with their own camera (phone) and their their own tv channel (social media). So if you can do it in this day and age, imagine what you could do 100 years ago; and that is exactly the story of the so-called "Armenian G*nocide".

Look at how right now they are literally calling it a genocide while not one civilian has died in this process AND THEY ARE THE AGGRESSORS, and they did the killings already. Now you can use your imagination about their prior claims of genocide, and how that might have went. It was the exact same thing. They were the aggressors, they allied with the country's enemy at the time of war, when as an ethnic group they had immense power and privileges in the court of Ottoman rulers (the kind of power, privilege and influence that Turks and Kurds could onyl ever dream of); the reaction by Turks and Kurds was much more muted in comparison; but immediately they started completely ignoring their actions and massacres, mythologizing the Turkish reaction instead, exaggerating the numbers of perished, and adding to the number as every decade passed, reaching a number now that is twice the number of Armenians living inside Ottoman borders according to their own census by their religious authorities, while we know hundreds of thousands of them moved to Russia, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, America and Argentina.

We cannot mount any kind of tangible defence on the media and propaganda front, because of lower base of educated people, that is it.

English speaking country rule the propaganda front.

Even France or Germany against them, suddenly french or German became the devil.

 

[Ghost soldier]

Le pays de Baguette strikes again.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1708216429344882999

 

[GoatsMilk]

Comparing how British media the economist compared the two wars of 1996 and recently.

https://www.reddit.com/r/azerbaijan/comments/16wend8
The western media is pure evil. Just as corrupt and controlled as we imagine the Russian media to be.

When they slaughter and wipe out Muslims/Turks its good, when Muslims/Turks liberate their lands its evil genocide. Same shit they played on Cyprus with the Turkish cypriots.

Look at how excited the Economist was when the Armenians committed ethnic clensing.

"NOWHERE have the Armenians been Now as energetic and tough as in Nagorno-Karabakh. In Soviet times, Karabakh was a beautiful, hilly (nagomy means mountainous in Russian, mainly Armenian-populated exclave in Azerbaijan Nowadays, it is in effect part of Armenia, its population of around 130,000 entirely Azeri-free. And it would return to Azerbaijani sovereignty only with huge loss of life on both sides.

As in Armenia proper, things have improved sharply over the past year or so for the Karabakh Armenians. Electricity and food are far more abundant. Trade with Iranians, who have been allowed systematically to strip such captured Azeri towns as Agdam of almost everything movable, from pipes and tiles to copper wire, is brisk. This year there will be a sur plus of home-grown grain.

Most strikingly, the Armenians have been tightening their military grip, have heavily resettled former Azeri-populated parts of the area (especially the villages along the crucial road through Lachin), mainly with Armenian refugees from Azerbaijan, and have built new roads and improved old ones linking the exclave with Armenia proper. They are a tough and determined lot who, so far, have proved much better fighters than the Azeris

The only compromise the Armenians might contemplate is to give back some of the lower land to the east and south of Karabakh, perhaps including the towns of Agdam, Fizuli and Jebrail, which are anyway probably indefensible in the long term. But the corridor around Lachin, which is only seven kilometres wide at its narrowest, seems not negotiable. The Armenians also want to hang on to Kelbajar, which has gold mines nearby. It is conceivable that the Azeris, in return, might be offered an even narrower corridor along the Iranian border to link their own exclave, Nakhichevan, with the main bit of Azerbaijan. So far, such a deal is unpalatable to the Azeris.

Meanwhile, the Karabakh Armenians remain armed to the teeth, mainly with Russian weapons that are at least partly paid for with cash from the Armenian diaspora in America and France. They may even have surface-to-surface missiles capable of hitting Baku, Azerbaijan's capital, and its nearby oil installations. Karabakh's president, Robert Khotcharian, is a presentable former silk-factory boss who is the public voice of Karabakh abroad, but the real leader is Samvel Babayan, the 30-year-old defence minister, a diminutive but ruthless and charismatic former car-cleaner whose brother, Kamo, is interior minister. Samvel Babayan is an arch-expansionist who thinks Karabakh should stretch even farther north. But at the end of the day, what the government in Yerevan says goes"

 

[Agha Sher]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1708226329236103643

According to arguments made by this account, Azerbaijan is continuing the buildup of forces in Nakchivan.

 

[B_A]

Comparing how British media the economist compared the two wars of 1996 and recently.

https://www.reddit.com/r/azerbaijan/comments/16wend8
The western media is pure evil. Just as corrupt and controlled as we imagine the Russian media to be.

When they slaughter and wipe out Muslims/Turks its good, when Muslims/Turks liberate their lands its evil genocide. Same shit they played on Cyprus with the Turkish cypriots.

Look at how excited the Economist was when the Armenians committed ethnic clensing.

"NOWHERE have the Armenians been Now as energetic and tough as in Nagorno-Karabakh. In Soviet times, Karabakh was a beautiful, hilly (nagomy means mountainous in Russian, mainly Armenian-populated exclave in Azerbaijan Nowadays, it is in effect part of Armenia, its population of around 130,000 entirely Azeri-free. And it would return to Azerbaijani sovereignty only with huge loss of life on both sides.

As in Armenia proper, things have improved sharply over the past year or so for the Karabakh Armenians. Electricity and food are far more abundant. Trade with Iranians, who have been allowed systematically to strip such captured Azeri towns as Agdam of almost everything movable, from pipes and tiles to copper wire, is brisk. This year there will be a sur plus of home-grown grain.

Most strikingly, the Armenians have been tightening their military grip, have heavily resettled former Azeri-populated parts of the area (especially the villages along the crucial road through Lachin), mainly with Armenian refugees from Azerbaijan, and have built new roads and improved old ones linking the exclave with Armenia proper. They are a tough and determined lot who, so far, have proved much better fighters than the Azeris

The only compromise the Armenians might contemplate is to give back some of the lower land to the east and south of Karabakh, perhaps including the towns of Agdam, Fizuli and Jebrail, which are anyway probably indefensible in the long term. But the corridor around Lachin, which is only seven kilometres wide at its narrowest, seems not negotiable. The Armenians also want to hang on to Kelbajar, which has gold mines nearby. It is conceivable that the Azeris, in return, might be offered an even narrower corridor along the Iranian border to link their own exclave, Nakhichevan, with the main bit of Azerbaijan. So far, such a deal is unpalatable to the Azeris.

Meanwhile, the Karabakh Armenians remain armed to the teeth, mainly with Russian weapons that are at least partly paid for with cash from the Armenian diaspora in America and France. They may even have surface-to-surface missiles capable of hitting Baku, Azerbaijan's capital, and its nearby oil installations. Karabakh's president, Robert Khotcharian, is a presentable former silk-factory boss who is the public voice of Karabakh abroad, but the real leader is Samvel Babayan, the 30-year-old defence minister, a diminutive but ruthless and charismatic former car-cleaner whose brother, Kamo, is interior minister. Samvel Babayan is an arch-expansionist who thinks Karabakh should stretch even farther north. But at the end of the day, what the government in Yerevan says goes"

When German started fighting British.
Suddenly German became the Huns and apes.

 

[Timur]

When German started fighting British.
Suddenly German became the Huns and apes

The reality is that's the truth.. They were the monkeys of brutality.. But the reality is more that this counts to the whole language family

Even the Europe idea is nothing more than white supremacy shit..

Or can anyone show us where the tektonial place of Europe is... The whole continent is Asia.. Only white supremacy shit came up with a imagining better place called Europe..