contricusc
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Even in our life time we have watched the westerners/europeans ally with Russia against us. We saw this in Syria, we seen it in Libya. We also saw it in Azerbaijan where both Russia and the West were on Armenia's side.
In Libya the sides are very mixed up. The Western nations don’t have a unified position on Libya. Some Western nations are on the same side as Turkey (Italy for example). The sides are based on each country’s individual interests. There is no unified Western position.
As for Armenia, the West did absolutely nothing about it. Of course you will see some condemnations whenever a country uses military force to achieve something, but besides that, there was nothing.
There is a clear hierarchy in the west that sees the anglo-american establishment as supreme. Below her are nations like Germany and to a lessor extent France, below that are countries like Italy and Spain. Then the eastern europeans and balkans are below them. The Russians wanted to challenge the anglo american position and hence are in conflict. But when an outsider a non-white, non European nation like Turkiye enters the game they are united against her.
That hierarchy is not something agreed by anyone. That hierarchy is based on power dynamics, and it is always challenged by those in the lesser echelons. Why do you think the EU was created in the first place? It was a French-German plan to reverse the power dynamic in Europe. That’s why Britain has never been truly in the EU, and we had Brexit in the end. The EU wanted to reduce Britain’s influence in Europe.
Also, you have Eastern European countries trying to form their own alliances like the Visegrad Group, in order to increase their power in the EU.
And you also have the big losers of EU integration, like Italy, which was sold out by its leaders and has been ruined by EU policies that were meant to ruin it in favor of Germany.
This basically is not really any different then when the nordic-germanic aristocracy ruled the whole of europe. They will fight and kill each other, but when the Turk enters the game they collectively came together to oppose the outsider that threatened their entire structure.
This is nonsense. When Turkey invaded Northern Cyprus, it was the US that stopped Greece from intervening. If the entire Western world (including the US) was united against Turkey, you wouldn’t have gotten Northern Cyprus.
The reality is that the Western world is extremely divided, with the US being by far the major power player, and acting based on its own interests without any regard for the interests of individual European countries. Turkey is just another European country from the US perspective, which means it should be kept weak and isolated, while at the same time used against Russia. But this is how the US sees all European countries, not only Turkey.
Remember when the US sanctioned their “greatest ally” (Britain) during the Suez invasion? The US wanted to see Britain lose the Suez, in order to weaken it, despite being their “best ally”. They treated the UK in th same way they treat Turkey today. Allies on paper, but we want you to be weak and we work against you if you become too strong.
Now the difference today is we are meant to be allies, we are meant to be friends, we are not at war, yet everything outside of directly attacking us, is as if they see us as the enemy.
That’s how the US acts with any country that becomes too influential in its region. They want to have many allies, but for them to be weak enough to be unable to pose any challenge. They pit allies against each other because they don’t want to see a strong united Europe that could challenge their hegemony.
As for Europe, it is so divided that it can’t act with coherence and as a unified block. In every conflict, European countries are usually on both sides, or they don’t care.