Azerbaijan Armenia Tensions
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Azerbaijan reports 3 martyrs.
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What the bloody hell is Azerbaijan doing ? They have plenty of UAV's, how come they didn't see the Armenians coming ?
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Not just that a simple ucav strike could have prevented the Armenians doing an attack.
This policy of shooting back when attacked costs the lives of so many soldiers especially Turkish soldiers.
Azerbaijan should not repeat our mistakes neither they should have allowed this happen at the first place what a shame.
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There is no international pressure or scrutiny on armenia to behave. To the contrary it looks like both the americans and russians have been blowing smoke up their arses to further encourage them to escalate the situation.
To whole reason we had armenians boasting about a greater armenia is because they felt that the entire white european world was on their side. If the US, EU and Russia are not cheering them on they would soon know their place.
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Armenians I argued once talk about ancient and great they are while they still exist while every empire that ruled them collapsed.
Look more into the matter the reason why the Armenians survived because they latched onto any empire that passed through the region and pledged their allegiance to them when that empire collapses or weakens they go for the next big thing.
Most of the native peoples of the Caucasus actually hate Armenians because the Armenians are the ones who helped the Russians conquer the Caucasus. Not to say the Georgians did not help the Russians but the Georgians actually regret helping Russia. Georgian concerns cant be blamed as they were Orthodox and sandwiched between the Ottomans, Safavids, Afsharids and Qajars so I cant blame them for supporting the Russians.
Armenia has been largely trying to spin this as a religious conflict to fool gullible Chrisitians.
Armenians believe Greater Armenia is a promise by God almighty.
Armenians constantly believe they will conquer Trabzon to Baku. They have territorial claims against Turkiye, Azerbaijan and Georgia. 3 of its neighbours in the region.
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How stupid can one be to believe the whole world will join in your stupid crusade because you share the same religion.
Armenians have had numerous chances to come to the table but instead are deluded with their territorial bs backed by ancient claims that mean jack in the modern world dominated by nation states.
Armenians are going to make the 2020 war look pale to what is coming next. Russia bailed them out so bad in 2020 lets see who will bail them out because I doubt the Ayatoilet regime has enough power to bail out the Armenians while the Russians weaken themselves in Ukraine.
Armenians have had numerous chances to come to the table but instead are deluded with their territorial bs backed by ancient claims that mean jack in the modern world dominated by nation states.
Armenians are going to make the 2020 war look pale to what is coming next. Russia bailed them out so bad in 2020 lets see who will bail them out because I doubt the Ayatoilet regime has enough power to bail out the Armenians while the Russians weaken themselves in Ukraine.
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The cultural contamination over a historical event over a hundred years old, based on a complete one sided victimhood perspective is so entrenched that its inevitable where this heading. The Armenians cannot help but to constantly kick the hornets nest.
The armenians for example are not even taught that they started the killing the slaughter of the Muslims in eastern Anatolia. They are not taught how a people who lived just fine under Ottomans for hundreds of years, living financially better then the common Muslim became such a massive problem.
On the Ottoman deathbed their ambitions despite Russian, British and French support was not achieved, how in the hell they are going to achieve it now is mind boggling madness.
On the international stage armenian lobbying groups work day and night to slander all Turks at every opportunity. They use one event in history that isnt the way they have been brainwashed to believe as the excuse to relentlessly attack all Turks today in every field.
Their madness is rapidly taking them off the cliff edge. Literally being used as cannon fodder for greater power imperial ambitions in the region.
Russians don't care about armenians, Americans, British and French don't care about them either, what they care about is being able to use them as destabilising force the same way they use the PKK today.
The situation is only going down one path, the armenians keep provoking and provoking until they get crushed in another pointless war that they didnt have to start. They should be grateful that Aliyev is not a Putin, he didnt have to accept armenias surrender/capitulation when their armies were being vanquished on the battlefield.
But everyone should pay attention that once this next war starts how the western media will talk as if it was unprovoked and the Azeris started it. Nearly the entire western media spectrum is pure propaganda, absolute bullshit lies.
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Armenians are bitter about 2020 war hence why they want revenge and Karabag back.
After they get Karabag back they will try to take land off Turkiye and Georgia.
Not just a land grab they want to complete but they want ethhnically cleanse these areas of their inhabitants.
Funny how the Byzantines before Manzikert threatened to wipe out the Armenians while the Armenians themselves begged for the Seljuk Turks to come and help them.
Somehow the Turks are the evil ones to the Armenians the Armenians actually forget who saved them if not the Eastern Roman Empire would have wiped them out.
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There are already term, used for "Christian Isis" = It is called "Christianists"
GoatsMilk: "But everyone should pay attention that once this next war starts how the western media will talk as if it was unprovoked and the Azeris started it. Nearly the entire western media spectrum is pure propaganda, absolute bullshit lies."
Yes you are right. Western media works according to interests, not facts.
The whole world has experienced this many times and knows it.
But the interesting thing is that; that you do not accept this fact under the banner of the ukraine-russian war.
Acknowledge and defend all false, biased, modified or even fictionalized news, stories, videos, comments, symbols and arguments put forward by the Western media.
For example, first, the sentence "Russia suddenly attacked Ukraine". Then he turned to "Putin suddenly attacked Ukraine". However, while the whole world knows that Russia and the West have been fighting for these places since the beginning of the cold war.
and that west and russia has been trying to seize the Ukrainian government with elections in the last period!!!?????
Yes you are right. Western media works according to interests, not facts.
The whole world has experienced this many times and knows it.
But the interesting thing is that; that you do not accept this fact under the banner of the ukraine-russian war.
Acknowledge and defend all false, biased, modified or even fictionalized news, stories, videos, comments, symbols and arguments put forward by the Western media.
For example, first, the sentence "Russia suddenly attacked Ukraine". Then he turned to "Putin suddenly attacked Ukraine". However, while the whole world knows that Russia and the West have been fighting for these places since the beginning of the cold war.
and that west and russia has been trying to seize the Ukrainian government with elections in the last period!!!?????
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I feel sickened to say this but i think the armenians are destined to end their own state by their own actions. Before the Ukrainian war i had this feeling that eventually what would happen is the armenians start another stupid war and lose it, then the Russians move in and annex the entire territory as it happened to them in the past.
But i'm not so sure now, i can potentially see Turkiye stepping in at some point to make sure the conflict is finally ended. And the reason i can see Turkiye stepping in is because of the Iranians provoking a wider conflict and to end that wider conflict the Turkish army marching in Yerevan puts its to bed.
When your country is as small, weak and backward as armenia you don't want to be starting wars or pursuing expansionist ambitions, like going round claiming the treaty of sevres is the basis for the armenian state. Basically saying they believe that eastern Turkey, much of the same region that the PKK claims belongs to them.
What are they expecting a nation comprised of Turks a people like the Turks are just going to bend over and give it to them?
On the one hand they want to portray us to the world as fanatical, strong, blood thirsty extreme right wing nationalists, even going so far as invoking claims like "wait for them at Vienna", yet by the same token they act as if by lobbying the world the Turks will be forced to give half their nation to them. What complete idiots.
But i will say this the conflict between Turks and Armenians was not started by Turks and Armenians it was instigated and provoked originally by the British, French and Russians. Today Russia, France and the USA play the biggest game in constantly keeping tensions high.
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Bruh, this shit is a borderline comedy. That's basically point blank range, you can't possibly miss your target at that distance. I'm legitimately amazed that the casualties haven't been higher.
Also this engagement was likely not done with knowledge of Armenian government officials. Literally every single one of them immediately started calling for peace instead of the usual "they did it, no you did it" back-and-forth and Pashinyan outright blamed fifth columnists in the army for the incident.
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Azerbaijan has established a checkpoint at the start of the Lachin corridor. The corridor is no more. Armenians and Russians are crying
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the sooner the Russian trouble makers are sent back to the cold grim streets of moscow the better.
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Russia cant do much also same story in Syria and in Georgia.
Their abroad operations are getting drawed down because Ukraine has come at a high cost for the Russians.
Russians cant even supply their naval bases in Syria due to Turkiye closing the straits.
Barely any active in Syria due to Russia sending troops and planes to Ukraine.
