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Proven or not, keep aside. What Armenia is trying to do is form an axis with India and France.
You mean France is using Armenia to try to sturr up things in the neighborhood.
Buying some weapons from India doesnt mean a thing.
Btw,''Axis'' is a big word.
 

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Proven or not, keep aside. What Armenia is trying to do is form an axis with India and France.
France use Armenia against Turkey. India use Armenia against Turkiye - Pakistan axis. And Armenia use both against Turkey - Azerbaijan axis. What a harmony relationships.
 

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You mean France is using Armenia to try to sturr up things in the neighborhood.
Buying some weapons from India doesnt mean a thing.
Btw,''Axis'' is a big word.
My Bad, Axis is a Big word. I meant to say trio or something like that. I do know Azerbaijan holds a significant asymmetrical advantage over Armenia now & in the immediate future. India, France, or whatever country weapon will not help them unless they go BIG which will not happen anyway due to their economic situation. So it would be better for Azerbaijan to settle this peacefully now by taking the lead without involving third-party countries, if feasible. No one knows what happens in the distant future. ; )
 

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My Bad, Axis is a Big word. I meant to say trio or something like that. I do know Azerbaijan holds a significant asymmetrical advantage over Armenia now & in the immediate future. India, France, or whatever country weapon will not help them unless they go BIG which will not happen anyway due to their economic situation. So it would be better for Azerbaijan to settle this peacefully now by taking the lead without involving third-party countries, if feasible. No one knows what happens in the distant future. ; )
You are talking as if Azerbaijan has an obligation to settlle this in any way,im guessing you dont know the situation?
Armenia is the weak party here,it has to oblige to Azerbaijani demands.
Nothing can and will happen in the future as long as there is a country called Türkiye.
You think France or even India can do anything in our neighborhood?
Even Russia ditched Armenia,no other country would take the risk of alienating my country.
India made a defence equipment sale,thats all,nothing more.
 

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You are talking as if Azerbaijan has an obligation to settlle this in any way,im guessing you dont know the situation?
Armenia is the weak party here,it has to oblige to Azerbaijani demands.
Nothing can and will happen in the future as long as there is a country called Türkiye.
You think France or even India can do anything in our neighborhood?
Even Russia ditched Armenia,no other country would take the risk of alienating my country.
India made a defence equipment sale,thats all,nothing more.
You misunderstood me. Turkiye is a Strong Country, never denied. India has minimal influence in Caucasus region so it had no chance to begin with. Don't know about France. But like you said, Armenia is just a customer to India. All i wanted to say prolonging the issue when you have significant advantage now is not the wise thing to do. Take the territories you claim now. You see Future is something unpredictable. Cheers
 
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You misunderstood me. Turkiye is a Strong Country, never denied. India has minimal influence in Caucasus region so it had no chance to begin with. Don't know about France. But like you said, Armenia is just a customer to India. All i wanted to say prolonging the issue when you have significant advantage now is not the wise thing to do. Take the territories you claim now. You see Future is something unpredictable. Cheers
The ball is in Armenias hands,does it want to be included in the economic structure of the region or be isolated from it.
The Zengezur corridor is still closed,it will determine Armenias future.
Azerbaijan is in a postion to take it by force if Armenia doesnt open it,this issue has to be solved before any peace treaty can be on the table.
 

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Azerbaijani Deputy Rasim Musabayov:

Since World War II, no country has signed agreements similar to the non-aggression pact proposed by Armenia.

They are trying to ignore the negotiations we have been carrying out for two years and bring up a new agreement proposal. We are closed to discussing this issue.
 

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Azerbaijan had required Armenia to amend the constitution for a full-fledged peace process between Baku and Yerevan.

Ilham Aliyev and Nikol Pashinyan agreed to rewrite the Armenian Constitution. Pashinyan started work on this issue.

Aliyev noted that changes should be made not only in the constitution but also in other regulatory documents of Armenia.

Armenia's Declaration of Independence contains direct calls for the unification of the Karabakh region of Azerbaijan with Armenia and the violation of the territorial integrity of the Republic of Azerbaijan. The Constitution of Armenia also contains references to these statements.

Aliyev emphasized that peace can only be achieved if Armenia gets rid of its territorial claims and makes changes to the Constitution and other legal regulations. Ilham Aliyev drew attention to the urgency of these measures.

Armenia will change the Constitution

Pashinyan: "Today, we really need to make adjustments to the contents of the Declaration of Independence. We must hold a constitutional referendum in order for us to transform from a non-state nation into a nation-state."

The synchronicity of Aliyev and Pashinyan's statements shows the consistency of Baku and Yerevan's positions that claims to Azerbaijani territory should be deleted from the Armenian Constitution.

At the same time, we see that the Pashinyan regime accepts this step. This is a positive development in the Armenia-Azerbaijan agreement.

Because Yerevan could very well insist on the immunity of the Armenian Constitution.

When it comes to the referendum, it can be predicted that the majority of the Armenian population will vote for the new Constitution.

Giving up Azerbaijani territory would reduce the chances of continuing revanchist policies in Armenia, and that is exactly what the Armenian people now want.
 

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Azerbaijan had required Armenia to amend the constitution for a full-fledged peace process between Baku and Yerevan.

Ilham Aliyev and Nikol Pashinyan agreed to rewrite the Armenian Constitution. Pashinyan started work on this issue.

Aliyev noted that changes should be made not only in the constitution but also in other regulatory documents of Armenia.

Armenia's Declaration of Independence contains direct calls for the unification of the Karabakh region of Azerbaijan with Armenia and the violation of the territorial integrity of the Republic of Azerbaijan. The Constitution of Armenia also contains references to these statements.

Aliyev emphasized that peace can only be achieved if Armenia gets rid of its territorial claims and makes changes to the Constitution and other legal regulations. Ilham Aliyev drew attention to the urgency of these measures.

Armenia will change the Constitution

Pashinyan: "Today, we really need to make adjustments to the contents of the Declaration of Independence. We must hold a constitutional referendum in order for us to transform from a non-state nation into a nation-state."

The synchronicity of Aliyev and Pashinyan's statements shows the consistency of Baku and Yerevan's positions that claims to Azerbaijani territory should be deleted from the Armenian Constitution.

At the same time, we see that the Pashinyan regime accepts this step. This is a positive development in the Armenia-Azerbaijan agreement.

Because Yerevan could very well insist on the immunity of the Armenian Constitution.

When it comes to the referendum, it can be predicted that the majority of the Armenian population will vote for the new Constitution.

Giving up Azerbaijani territory would reduce the chances of continuing revanchist policies in Armenia, and that is exactly what the Armenian people now want.
That good start but not enough since that is just a piece of paper. Armenians really need to change their hate filled culture, unfortunately that is not happening. The first step would be to stop their hostile international rethorics and open up their economy to both Az and Tr.
 
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Azerbaijan had required Armenia to amend the constitution for a full-fledged peace process between Baku and Yerevan.

Ilham Aliyev and Nikol Pashinyan agreed to rewrite the Armenian Constitution. Pashinyan started work on this issue.

Aliyev noted that changes should be made not only in the constitution but also in other regulatory documents of Armenia.

Armenia's Declaration of Independence contains direct calls for the unification of the Karabakh region of Azerbaijan with Armenia and the violation of the territorial integrity of the Republic of Azerbaijan. The Constitution of Armenia also contains references to these statements.

Aliyev emphasized that peace can only be achieved if Armenia gets rid of its territorial claims and makes changes to the Constitution and other legal regulations. Ilham Aliyev drew attention to the urgency of these measures.

Armenia will change the Constitution

Pashinyan: "Today, we really need to make adjustments to the contents of the Declaration of Independence. We must hold a constitutional referendum in order for us to transform from a non-state nation into a nation-state."

The synchronicity of Aliyev and Pashinyan's statements shows the consistency of Baku and Yerevan's positions that claims to Azerbaijani territory should be deleted from the Armenian Constitution.

At the same time, we see that the Pashinyan regime accepts this step. This is a positive development in the Armenia-Azerbaijan agreement.

Because Yerevan could very well insist on the immunity of the Armenian Constitution.

When it comes to the referendum, it can be predicted that the majority of the Armenian population will vote for the new Constitution.

Giving up Azerbaijani territory would reduce the chances of continuing revanchist policies in Armenia, and that is exactly what the Armenian people now want.
It is clear that they are trying everything possible to get a rematch. They can't understand that nobody will save them and in the end they will eventually be hit by this reality once again, relying on the empty promises of big countries, using them as a cannon fodder for their dirty agenda against Turkiye and Azerbaijan.

These days are unique chance both for Armenia and the whole Caucasus region, that may not come again ever. Armenia should pursue peace and prosperity instead of war from which they can't win anything. Let's bury the hatchets and work for a better future.
 

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Azerbaijan expects an imminent Armenian attack in the Jermuk direction according to Azerbaijan state media.

Seems like peace deal is going nowhere
 

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Azerbaijan expects an imminent Armenian attack in the Jermuk direction according to Azerbaijan state media.

Seems like peace deal is going nowhere
Provocations are possible, but the Armenians do not have the strength to do more. The most “peace-loving” union in the world - the European Union - led by France is pushing Armenia towards provocation. A month ago we detained a French spy here. Two more were expelled (have diplomatic immunity). A few weeks ago, the commander of the external missions of the French gendarmerie, General William de Meyer, personally appeared on the border with Armenia! Here he is, the general in charge of operations outside France. With binoculars. On our border. Something is looking out on our territory...
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Another “peace-loving” EU spy, a Czech, was recently caught. He calmly walked through Armenian posts and minefields and... got caught.
They provoke us.
In recent years the French have been driven out of Africa. And now they found new blacks in Armenia...
What does a French general need 4000 km from France, right on our border?! I suspect this is a kick in the ass :ROFLMAO:
 

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Oh it will be better if Armenia starts a war, I see only advantages for Azerbaijan (with exception of casualties of course)
 

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Provocations are possible, but the Armenians do not have the strength to do more. The most “peace-loving” union in the world - the European Union - led by France is pushing Armenia towards provocation. A month ago we detained a French spy here. Two more were expelled (have diplomatic immunity). A few weeks ago, the commander of the external missions of the French gendarmerie, General William de Meyer, personally appeared on the border with Armenia! Here he is, the general in charge of operations outside France. With binoculars. On our border. Something is looking out on our territory...
View attachment 65372

Another “peace-loving” EU spy, a Czech, was recently caught. He calmly walked through Armenian posts and minefields and... got caught.
They provoke us.
In recent years the French have been driven out of Africa. And now they found new blacks in Armenia...
What does a French general need 4000 km from France, right on our border?! I suspect this is a kick in the ass :ROFLMAO:

europeans doing what europeans do. Meanwhile their free press will never expose their instigations.
 

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Provocations are possible, but the Armenians do not have the strength to do more. The most “peace-loving” union in the world - the European Union - led by France is pushing Armenia towards provocation. A month ago we detained a French spy here. Two more were expelled (have diplomatic immunity). A few weeks ago, the commander of the external missions of the French gendarmerie, General William de Meyer, personally appeared on the border with Armenia! Here he is, the general in charge of operations outside France. With binoculars. On our border. Something is looking out on our territory...
View attachment 65372

Another “peace-loving” EU spy, a Czech, was recently caught. He calmly walked through Armenian posts and minefields and... got caught.
They provoke us.
In recent years the French have been driven out of Africa. And now they found new blacks in Armenia...
What does a French general need 4000 km from France, right on our border?! I suspect this is a kick in the ass :ROFLMAO:

A well placed artillery shell could send a great message to them.
 

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Provocations are possible, but the Armenians do not have the strength to do more. The most “peace-loving” union in the world - the European Union - led by France is pushing Armenia towards provocation. A month ago we detained a French spy here. Two more were expelled (have diplomatic immunity). A few weeks ago, the commander of the external missions of the French gendarmerie, General William de Meyer, personally appeared on the border with Armenia! Here he is, the general in charge of operations outside France. With binoculars. On our border. Something is looking out on our territory...
View attachment 65372

Another “peace-loving” EU spy, a Czech, was recently caught. He calmly walked through Armenian posts and minefields and... got caught.
They provoke us.
In recent years the French have been driven out of Africa. And now they found new blacks in Armenia...
What does a French general need 4000 km from France, right on our border?! I suspect this is a kick in the ass :ROFLMAO:

If Armenia is unwilling to make peace and continue their expansionist ideas, the goal for Azerbaijan must be to end their statehood.
 

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If Armenia is unwilling to make peace and continue their expansionist ideas, the goal for Azerbaijan must be to end their statehood.

It will be hard to find any lasting peace because the US, EU and Russia will be active in making sure there is conflict. They need conflict to have any geopolitical meaning in the region. If there is peace, there is no need for americans, europeans or russians to be there.
 

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It will be hard to find any lasting peace because the US, EU and Russia will be active in making sure there is conflict. They need conflict to have any geopolitical meaning in the region. If there is peace, there is no need for americans, europeans or russians to be there.

Armenia would actually even be better off being at peace with the Turks.

Not only will open up their country they will reap the benefits.

They still play on that neo Ottoman bs that we will come and conquer them while at the same they have territorial ambitions against their own neighbours.
 

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