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[UkroTurk]

Since The genie out of the bottle, arm racing on the island will start soon? Should Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus have s400 air defense system?

 

[Pokemonte13]

Since The genie out of the bottle, arm racing on the island will start soon? Should Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus have s400 air defense system?
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What Arm Racing? Y’all are acting like they bought srbm or advanced ew system. Only real problem I see is that it would function as an early warning system for the Israel if we were to fire ballistic missiles from Cyprus. But I’m guessing they only bought one system and no replacement radar?

 

[Saithan]

Notice how our enemies have more cards in their hand and can do pretty much anything they want, but we have to pass every time. The political cards as was mentioned.

 

[UkroTurk]

What Arm Racing? Y’all are acting like they bought srbm or advanced ew system. Only real problem I see is that it would function as an early warning system for the Israel if we were to fire ballistic missiles from Cyprus. But I’m guessing they only bought one system and no replacement radar?

İf it is not a big threat, why ours made challenge against s300 and Greece locked s300 up?
So today Turkish fighters happened to be targets over Cyprus.
( On the other hand, SAMs are agile surface-to-surface missiles,and Greeks with Barak SAMs could hit Turkish shores as well as warships.)

Need to put s400 into Magusa facing toward Haifa , at least Jews might be rethinking!

 

[Oublious]

İf it is not a big threat, why ours made challenge against s300 and Greece locked s300 up?
So today Turkish fighters happened to be targets over Cyprus.
( On the other hand, SAMs are agile surface-to-surface missiles,and Greeks with Barak SAMs could hit Turkish shores as well as warships.)

Need to put s400 into Magusa facing toward Haifa , at least Jews might be rethinking!

Sam hitting warships?

 

[GoatsMilk]

Notice how our enemies have more cards in their hand and can do pretty much anything they want, but we have to pass every time. The political cards as was mentioned.

"New Turkiye".

 

[UkroTurk]

Sam hitting warships?

Easy

 

[begturan]

logical... we should deploy our air defence systems at Syria as soon as possible.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1966519477262279156

 

[Oublious]

Easy

In no history is that be happened. Americans came with that capabilities with ther sm missiles. But thats not easy to happen.

 

[UkroTurk]

In no history is that be happened.

In history , there are a lot anti-ship missiles that they didn't prove themselves. .What's the difference between aircraft and warship? Seeker of SAM can't detect bigger and slower targets.
C'mon, this argument is nonsense.

*SM6

 

[Yasar_TR]

In no history is that be happened. Americans came with that capabilities with ther sm missiles. But thats not easy to happen.

In history , there are a lot anti-ship missiles that they didn't prove themselves. .What's the difference between aircraft and warship? Seeker of SAM can't detect bigger and slower targets.
C'mon, this argument is nonsense.

*SM6

SAMs can be used against surface targets.
If the missiles were already configured for that purpose - like SM6 - then no problem. But in general they may need reconfiguration (like in Ukraine where S-200 missiles have been reconfigured and re purposed to hit ground targets) .

Some SAMs may have proximity detonation to destroy air targets. These may prove to be ineffective against armour.

Also SAMs reconfigured for ground or surface attack may have difficulty in homing in to target effectively. Even missing targets completely due to not recognising it as targets may be too small and varied in sizes.
Another point that may be of importance is the fact that due to much denser air the missile has to fly through, the overall range capability could be greatly compromised.

However if properly configured and supported by the correctly designed radar systems, like NASAMS, there is nothing stopping the use of SAMs against ground and surface targets.

 

[UkroTurk]

Active radar seekers could engages radar antennas which emits signals, there is no need to use of heavy warheads in order to make blind frigates.

On the other hand modern Data-Link capabilities of new missiles could increase the accuracy.
Ukrainian s-200s have primitive technology.

Israel defense industry likes creating different variations of different platforms. I am sure Israel Navy tested Barak missiles for anti-ship possibilities. They know their shits.

Using supersonic SAMs as anti-ship is totally lethal.

 

[Ripley]

“Considering the situation of the GKR-Israeli military relations, it is certain that this very powerful air defense system and radar will be one of the most important components of Israel's intelligence network in the Eastern Mediterranean. At the same time, Barak MX is a serious threat to Turkish air and land elements in Cyprus and even the Eastern Mediterranean.”

İsrail’den Güney Kıbrıs’a Barak MX sevkiyatı tansiyonu artırıyor | SavunmaSanayiST

İsrail’in Barak MX hava savunma sistemine ait olduğu değerlendirilen ekipmanlar gece yarısı Güney Kıbrıs’a taşındı ve görüntüleri paylaşıldı.

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This was My main concern. A protective shield for their naval activities.

And now I believe they might use the system against surface targets with various effectiveness.

SAMs can be used against surface targets.
If the missiles were already configured for that purpose - like SM6 - then no problem. But in general they may need reconfiguration (like in Ukraine where S-200 missiles have been reconfigured and re purposed to hit ground targets) .

Some SAMs may have proximity detonation to destroy air targets. These may prove to be ineffective against armour.

Also SAMs reconfigured for ground or surface attack may have difficulty in honing on to target effectively. Even missing targets completely due to not recognising it as targets may be too small and varied in sizes.
Another point that may be of importance is the fact that due to much denser air the missile has to fly through, the overall range capability could be greatly compromised.

However if properly configured and supported by the correctly designed radar systems, like NASAMS, there is nothing stopping the use of SAMs against ground and surface targets.

Active radar seekers could engages radar antennas which emits signals, there is no need to use of heavy warheads in order to make blind frigates.

On the other hand modern Data-Link capabilities of new missiles could increase the accuracy.
Ukrainian s-200s have primitive technology.

Israel defense industry likes creating different variations of different platforms. I am sure Israel Navy tested Barak missiles for anti-ship possibilities. They know their shits.

Using supersonic SAMs as anti-ship is totally lethal.

The idea that South Cyprus would acquire more different kinds of weapon systems from Israel isn’t a far fetched assumption.

I also wonder, who will operate these system? The Greek Cypriots or the Israeli personnel?

 

[Pokemonte13]

This was My main concern. A protective shield for their naval activities.

And now I believe they might use the system against surface targets with various effectiveness.




The idea that South Cyprus would acquire more different kinds of weapon systems from Israel isn’t a far fetched assumption.

I also wonder, who will operate these system? The Greek Cypriots or the Israeli personnel?

Cypriots would operate it but maintenance would be Israeli.
I doubt the Greeks have enough money to use them as a surface to surface weapon with that small fragmentation warhead and a big ass price tag

 

[Ripley]

Cypriots would operate it but maintenance would be Israeli.
I doubt the Greeks have enough money to use them as a surface to surface weapon with that small fragmentation warhead and a big ass price tag

That was always considered worst case scenario and only reserved when the shit hits the fan moment.
Anyways, it won’t stop there, more will follow.