China China to allow Turkish delegation to come to Xinjiang 2 months after UN human rights chief's visit

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Russian is white racist ,not like us

you better explain to me why i just search Turkey in Chinese largest webites,and 80% of them were hate speech to our country
 

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We Chinese never care much about what others think of us, we know maybe a billion Indians hate us but very few people actually hate Indians, most Chinese have somewhat positive attitude towards India, a fact that may surprise everyone in this forum. what other countries think of us won't change anything about us, we just have our attention on what we should do and what we want to make happen. as for what others think of us, we have a Chinese saying 嘴长在他们身上,让他们说去吧。 Their mouths, their freedom on how to use them.
 

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Russian is white racist ,not like us

you better explain to me why i just search Turkey in Chinese largest webites,and 80% of them were hate speech to our country
I honestly don't know, you can ask Turks who visited China before and get first hand infomation about how Chinese people think and treat people from Turkey in China.
 

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Even Chinese government CCTV reports him since he becomes so big in the Chinese social media
Don't be fooled by his video featuring simple village life, he made millions from his Chinese social media channels in variouos platforms.

 

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Russian-Poland India-chinese,india-pakisatan,greece-turkiye or chinese-japanese.... had war and historial problem,that is normal that some of nationalists hate each other

but i think we dont have problem with chinese?

i think most of chinese dont care about that but i really wonder that why the nationalist hate us so much
 

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Russian-Poland India-chinese,india-pakisatan,greece-turkiye or chinese-japanese.... had war and historial problem,that is normal that some of nationalists hate each other

but i think we dont have problem with chinese?

i think most of chinese dont care about that but i really wonder that why the nationalist hate us so much
Haters gonna hate, some people just hate everything and everyone.
 

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i gone to the Chinese version quote called 知乎 and found that Chinese hate Turkiye most, even far far much than japanese or US


Why do you say "Husky in the dog, Turkey in the country"?


Why did Turkey offend the members of the five permanent members all day long and have not been eliminated?


Why do domestic networks like to belittle Turkey so much?


Author: Bill Taiji
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Turkey is a hidden enemy of China. Although it is not like Australia, Britain, France, Japan and other countries openly clamoring for confrontation with China, it has done nothing less than the above-mentioned countries, or even more. It only bites people. On the surface, Turkey keeps saying that it is friendly with China, but it is just to take advantage of it, and secretly responds to the United States in containing China, but it has not fallen behind at all. Everyone is familiar with the Varyag. It is this Turkey that blocked the Varyag in the Bosphorus Strait for more than a year for safety reasons. It did not count as a deposit of one billion yuan. It also deceived our long-range rocket launcher. Technology, unmanned aerial vehicles and other advanced technologies are exported by their own cottages. The second thing is to buy the Hongqi-9 air defense missile technology. First, they pretended to announce that the Hongqi-9 had won the bid, defrauded us of a lot of technology, and also took the opportunity to force other missiles to lower their prices. For sufficient reasons, the bid was announced to be cancelled. The means are greedy and cunning, and have no faith at all. The third thing is the Turkish government. Some people in the private sector often make nonsense about China's Xinjiang issue, smear and smear the Chinese government's Xinjiang policy, and secretly support Xinjiang separatists. Especially in Syria, it is even more blatant, offering money and weapons, and even openly dispatching the army to support religious extremists such as the Islamic State, which is the boss behind the East Turkistan movement. Turkey's actions have seriously violated our sovereignty and harmed our country's interests. A heavy ticking time bomb was planted on our country's westward road. It is reasonable for the majority of patriotic netizens to be disgusted with him. In addition, he is a young boy with big ambitions, and his ability is matched with his ambition. It makes people feel stupid and disgusting, and it is necessary to degrade him.


you can use google translate to watch that

the Chinese want to kill us all and destroy us every day,we even didnt invade china for 1000years...

i never see any of our people said destroy chinese or kill chinese people,but they are hate us like crazy

same old same old from the chinese. Always the little victim, never guilty of anything. A nation of 1.2 billion acting like such a petulant child, shameful.

They have problems with everyone, but they never think that they are the problem.
 

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i added this guy to ignore, why does his his crap still appear for me?

A nation of 1.2 billion that has no significant military victories against the west talking about lackeys.
In that case you are not supposed to see this thread started by me I guess. China has been around for thousands of years not only for wars and conquering, and what does it have to do with lackeys anyway? US has many lackeys, it's a common sense knowledge for everyone.
 

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Forum owners is there a way to make threads created by people you have on ignore, also ignores their threads so you don't see them? Would make the forum better for me if i didn't have to see chinese communist shills pushing pro genocide propaganda against the Uyghurs.
 

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They know what they are doing, they are shameless and lack even the most basic of morals. Constantly posting pro genocide propaganda against a Turkic people on this forum shows a sick and shameless mentality held by these people.

They are only fooling themselves and its also why the Chinese are destined to have problems with every single one of their neighbours, an incredible level of arrogance built up from a previous era of massive humiliation, where the European came in and took over.

The European did such a number on them that its psychological ramifications are going to last many generations to come.

The intelligent thing would have been to have treated the Uighurs with respect and dignity, that way they could have impressed the entire Turkic world and opened up a great conduit across the entire Central Eurasian region.

As for americans instigating trouble and terrorism, 20 million uigurs poses no danger to 1.2 billion china, only a nation with deep insecurity issues would behave the way they are.

Turkey has experienced thousands of times more terrorism from pkk kurds, do you see the Turks rounding up kurds and putting them in concentration camps? Now if Turkey was 1.2 billion Turks, the terrorism the pkk commits wouldn't even be a blip on the statistics chart.

The Han supremacist psyche has lot of damage/pain underlying it as you have noted that is now being acted out as retribution and revenge....both on fellow Han (that oppose this approach) and especially the non-Han minorities.

One part you have missed (given lackey talk has arisen) is the total dependence China had for its very survival and existence today on the West (especially US) during WW2...given it is plainly apparent to anyone what would have happened to China if it received no assistance from the US and Japan was left to inflict what it did for further years and even decades.

Its one thing (psychologically) to send "also ran" emissaries to Tokyo to token join in with the West at the surrender ceremony after it was the US industrial might + USN + USMC + Nuclear weapons that achieved that result.....and another thing to take the extrapolation of the result over time if that intervention was not there... i.e no final local liberation by Chinese forces.....forget touching Japanese home islands.

The psyche void from that is why they keep reductively asserting lackey on everyone they dislike (along with what you mention preceding it)....along with the host of other repetitive cringe little red book quotes of the current day.

It has only been exacerbated by how Mao (whom these supremacists revere and even worship) on a number of occasions saying the Japanese need not apologise.... given that without them (and all they inflicted on China) he and the CCP would not have come to power.

i.e the minimizing atrocities upon the Chinese people by their own PRC "founding father".

But after all Mao inflicted his own large scale atrocities upon the Chinese people anyway....and that is all overlooked, gaslighted, minimized or even justified by these same people....who tend to be over-represented (in english online social media et al past the great wall) past even the Chinese norm locally.

With this being the default psyche setting guiding the CCP establishment and its fan-crowd, what chance of fairness do the Uighur, Tibetans et al. really have? This is an extremely large hole to fill and the Uighur and Tibetan populations are just a few shovelfuls for it.

Genuine positive founding fathers and the (gravity of relative to their population) wars and struggles they fought and strong positive legacies they leave (i.e not turning on their people after the final modern founding but bequeathing them more till the end) are somewhat rare. The Turks definitely have a role model in theirs....and that is also part of why you see others with troubled and even bad ones (Lenin, Stalin, Mao etc) despise Turks for that too.
 

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The Han supremacist psyche has lot of damage/pain underlying it as you have noted that is now being acted out as retribution and revenge....both on fellow Han (that oppose this approach) and especially the non-Han minorities.

One part you have missed (given lackey talk has arisen) is the total dependence China had for its very survival and existence today on the West (especially US) during WW2...given it is plainly apparent to anyone what would have happened to China if it received no assistance from the US and Japan was left to inflict what it did for further years and even decades.

Its one thing (psychologically) to send "also ran" emissaries to Tokyo to token join in with the West at the surrender ceremony after it was the US industrial might + USN + USMC + Nuclear weapons that achieved that result.....and another thing to take the extrapolation of the result over time if that intervention was not there... i.e no final local liberation by Chinese forces.....forget touching Japanese home islands.

The psyche void from that is why they keep reductively asserting lackey on everyone they dislike (along with what you mention preceding it)....along with the host of other repetitive cringe little red book quotes of the current day.

It has only been exacerbated by how Mao (whom these supremacists revere and even worship) on a number of occasions saying the Japanese need not apologise.... given that without them (and all they inflicted on China) he and the CCP would not have come to power.

i.e the minimizing atrocities upon the Chinese people by their own PRC "founding father".

But after all Mao inflicted his own large scale atrocities upon the Chinese people anyway....and that is all overlooked, gaslighted, minimized or even justified by these same people....who tend to be over-represented (in english online social media et al past the great wall) past even the Chinese norm locally.

With this being the default psyche setting guiding the CCP establishment and its fan-crowd, what chance of fairness do the Uighur, Tibetans et al. really have? This is an extremely large hole to fill and the Uighur and Tibetan populations are just a few shovelfuls for it.

Genuine positive founding fathers and the (gravity of relative to their population) wars and struggles they fought and strong positive legacies they leave (i.e not turning on their people after the final modern founding but bequeathing them more till the end) are somewhat rare. The Turks definitely have a role model in theirs....and that is also part of why you see others with troubled and even bad ones (Lenin, Stalin, Mao etc) despise Turks for that too.
70 years ago, you chose western democracy and you got today's India, 70 years ago we chose CCP and we got today's China. We are both happy about the results, aren't we? so what's the point of saying the other one made a bad choice? We made our choices and we are ready to embrace both good and bad coming from them.
 

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China Focus: Diplomats from 30 Islamic countries visit Xinjiang​


2022-08-07 15:57:15

URUMQI, Aug. 7 (Xinhua) -- Envoys from 30 Islamic countries visited northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region from Aug. 1 to 5 at the invitation of China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The diplomats from countries including Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Yemen and Pakistan visited the regional capital city of Urumqi, Kashgar Prefecture and Aksu Prefecture, learning about the region's economic and social development.

They witnessed Xinjiang's achievements in social stability, economic development, the improvement of people's livelihoods, religious harmony and cultural prosperity, expressing their hopes that exchanges and cooperation with the region would be deepened.

"The fruit here is so sweet, just like the life of people here," said Hassane Rabehi, Algerian ambassador to China, adding that during this visit, he got to know the real situation of Xinjiang, where the rights of people of all ethnic groups are well protected.

Hassane Rabehi said that Algeria hopes to conduct more cooperation with Xinjiang on infrastructure construction, modern agricultural development, education and scientific research.

Abdulrahman Ahmad H. Alharbi, ambassador of Saudi Arabia to China, said that Xinjiang's achievements are remarkable and its ties with the world are growing closer.
According to the ambassador, Saudi Arabia is willing to continue to strengthen cooperation with Xinjiang, make good use of the advantages of both sides, and invest more in technology, knowledge and other fields.

Bruneian ambassador to China Pehin Dato Rahmani said that after years of effort, Xinjiang has made remarkable achievements in development. People of all ethnic groups here are living together in harmony and enjoying the freedom of religious belief. People's livelihoods have also been improved.

"We hope to work with China to jointly defend the multilateral system with the United Nations as the core, adhere to the values of peaceful development, and further strengthen people-to-people exchanges," said Anyin Choo, Guyana's ambassador to China.

 

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Who is everyone? US and its lackeys?
Fancy that considering over the years China has been the biggest American lackey. Didn't the Soviets once call the Chinese "the imperialists' court jester" in the United Nations?
 

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Fancy that considering over the years China has been the biggest American lackey. Didn't the Soviets once call the Chinese "the imperialists' court jester" in the United Nations?
China fought US in Korea and Vietnam, one of the extremely few countries take on US militarily, twice, how come China is an US lackey? at some point in the history China was against both USSR and US and China also fought bloody border clashes with USSR in 1969, but against USSR doesn't automatically makes China an US lackey, back then China called them 苏修 and 美帝, two equal evils.
 

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China repeatedly invites everyone to Xinjiang, while US and the west, not only refuse to go themselves, but also pull out all stops to stop others going there. very funny phenomenon.
 

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Mao would not have done the PVA campaign in North Korea without:

a) The all clear from Uncle Joe

b) Uncle Joe holding back all "communist" cooperation on industrial and economic matters till Mao sent those PVA human wave attacks to generate the blood cost Uncle Joe would only then see as worthy from junior aspirer.

Bears no relation to the lackey argument. Mao was just being lackey to another...and as usual lives of Chinese didn't matter in it.

The soviets post-Joe would make that quite clear at ussuri....torture marks on solider bodies received, get paid back with interest.
 

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