China China's 6th gen fighter has made its maiden flight

[Turkic]

Separate engines are not good idea since they will be a ballast during the flight.

It's still a better idea if they couldn't build an efficient combined engine.

its hull is too fat

So was SR-71

 

[500]

Except it isnt. There is nothing that indicates it now having a S-duct intake unless you have a clear frontal view picture proving otherwise.

Probably they mastered some new physics which could not do designers of YF-23 and Su-57.

The only "6th gen" designs with vertical stabilizers are from nations that have not even built a 5th gen yet. Both F/A-XX and NGAD are supposed to be tailless as well as the other chinese SAC prototype. I am certain both the US and China have a very good understanding of how future air warfare will look like in regards to their fighter designs.

Obviously maneuvering is not a priority there.

3 engines might simply be necessary for its missions capabilities regarding range, speed and energy generation to power all kinds of new gen systems, whilst still retaining a compact design

2 engines are better. Thats why u dont see 3 engine passenger planes anymore.

For military number of engines is even much more critical.

 

[500]

So was SR-71

Not at all.

 

[RMZN]

Probably they mastered some new physics which could not do designers of YF-23 and Su-57.



2 engines are better. Thats why u dont see 3 engine passenger planes anymore.

Or it simply has s-ducts inlets like the F-22/KF-21/ Kaan


a passenger plane does not need to fulfill the mission capabilities of a 6th gen strike/fighter aircraft.

 

[Azeri441]

These discussions about 3 engines is pointless, we have 0 idea about requirements of this aircraft and what its trying to achieve.
The requirements might be to achieve 3+ mach speeds to get in through Carrier Battle Groups defenses fast, release anti-ship missiles and get out.

WS-15 is a powerful engine, so China is not lacking in engine department anymore.

There is also a 2 engine "6th gen" aircraft that was seen recently, so this aircraft definitely just has a different set of requirements that require 3 engine layout, and is most likely just a smaller and faster bomber to the bigger Xi'an H-20

Regardless, past 2030, Chinese Air Force will be insane, 800+ J-20s, which will include J-20S with multiple loyal wingmen, 500+ J-16s Super Flankers, and all these 6th gen aircraft will also be entering service. Not even counting J-15T and J-35s for the Navy. China will have more than 1500 4.5/5th gen fighters

USAF is gonna need more than 200 NGADs to compete against such numbers, specially since they will be replacing F-22s instead of adding capability.

 

[Turkic]

In chinese defence forums, they're talking about an old roadmap for a new gen engine which is capable of reaching mach 3-4 and an altitude of 30,000 meters. They say the roadmap was shown in 2017.

 

[Oublious]

Much better look to the fighter.

 

[blackjack]

These discussions about 3 engines is pointless, we have 0 idea about requirements of this aircraft and what its trying to achieve.
The requirements might be to achieve 3+ mach speeds to get in through Carrier Battle Groups defenses fast, release anti-ship missiles and get out.

WS-15 is a powerful engine, so China is not lacking in engine department anymore.

There is also a 2 engine "6th gen" aircraft that was seen recently, so this aircraft definitely just has a different set of requirements that require 3 engine layout, and is most likely just a smaller and faster bomber to the bigger Xi'an H-20

Regardless, past 2030, Chinese Air Force will be insane, 800+ J-20s, which will include J-20S with multiple loyal wingmen, 500+ J-16s Super Flankers, and all these 6th gen aircraft will also be entering service. Not even counting J-15T and J-35s for the Navy. China will have more than 1500 4.5/5th gen fighters

USAF is gonna need more than 200 NGADs to compete against such numbers, specially since they will be replacing F-22s instead of adding capability.

The physical appearance of the aircraft looks like a damn bomber with the intake placement looking similar to the bae taranis, neuron and Su-70 along with having the same dorito design as those 3 drones. There is no way that thing looks like it will go mach 3+, at best maybe transonic. The weapons bay are certainly big enough to house their 400km air to air missiles and air to ground missiles with enough range

No one knows yet if those 3 engines are confirmed either WS-10s or WS-15, not too long ago or 5 years ago they stopped using the AL-31 on their J-20s after 2019, that engine is like 2 generations behind the AL-51. I am willing to bet you Turkey will have their own domestic engines on the KAAN before China even fields any adaptive cycle engines on the J-36.

 

[Azeri441]

The physical appearance of the aircraft looks like a damn bomber with the intake placement looking similar to the bae taranis, neuron and Su-70 along with having the same dorito design as those 3 drones. There is no way that thing looks like it will go mach 3+, at best maybe transonic. The weapons bay are certainly big enough to house their 400km air to air missiles and air to ground missiles with enough range

No one knows yet if those 3 engines are confirmed either WS-10s or WS-15, not too long ago or 5 years ago they stopped using the AL-31 on their J-20s after 2019, that engine is like 2 generations behind the AL-51. I am willing to bet you Turkey will have their own domestic engines on the KAAN before China even fields any adaptive cycle engines on the J-36.

Most likely will be WS-15, WS-10 was designed to be a stop gap measure until the much more powerful WS-15 could enter service, Future J-20A and S will be using WS-15, so it only make sense for other future aircraft to also use WS-15