Certainly Neeraj has one of best coaches out there:
This is the kind of thing that simply didnt happen before.
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The attitude of govt. is different then previous govts and they tried to provide best staff to the most probables , sorry the population is 25 million and I have corrected my post .Certainly Neeraj has one of best coaches out there:
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This is the kind of thing that simply didnt happen before.
The attitude of govt. is different then previous govts and they tried to provide best staff to the most probables , sorry the population is 25 million and I have corrected my post .
They have started sports university in Manipur , hopefully other states will also get some facilities
National Sports University, Government of India
The University shall impart undergraduate, postgraduate, and doctoral programmes in Sports Coaching, Sports Sciences, and Physical Education in various disciplines .www.nsu.ac.in
I can bet if Anju Bobby George got even half of facilities which Neeraj got she would have easily got a medal in long jumpRespect from the south...
"Realised My Unfinished Dream": PT Usha Congratulates Neeraj Chopra
Among the millions who congratulated Neeraj Chopra for winning India's first Olympics Gold in athletics was legendary sprinter P T Usha, who missed a place on the podium in the 1984 Games by a whisker.www.ndtv.com
BTW, there was also Pakistani javelin thrower I was keeping an eye on (Arshad Nadeem).
Guy has bigger frame than Neeraj, and there would be more like him waiting to be nurtured and developed to get to the apex realm. Then its matter of consistency and luck. He would have medalled if he got closer to his personal best.
He is big hearted guy, and Neeraj is hero to him:
Pakistan’s Arshad Nadeem congratulates his ‘hero’ Neeraj Chopra on winning gold for India
Arshad Nadeem lauded his rival Neeraj Chopra for grabbing the gold medal at the javelin final in Tokyo Olympicswww.geosuper.tv
Maybe @Waz @Saiyan0321 @Kaptaan et al. can tell us a bit more about him and what their general thoughts on PK sports these days.
Waz is one I particularly would appreciate going through this thread and giving us some points to muse on if he would like ....as I remember having friendly chat with Waz about our wrestlers (on both sides of border) back in 2018 CWG I believe...iirc there was good sportsmanship+friendship between Muhammad Inam and Somveer Kadian at the medal ceremony.
It seems to me that Pakistan is stuck even more in the problems that India faced (and faces still though there is slow improvement now), with too much focus on monolith (Cricket) + usual corruption every endeavour attracts in south asia...and this severely detracts ability to grow other sports vertically at the apex process and intensity needed.
He is Subedar in Raj Rifles , will get some monetary award from Army too and Anand Mahindra gifted himHaryana govt alone has now gifted nearly 1 million dollars to neeraj +land plot for support to own guru-shishya in state it looks like.
Awards and recognition
For winning the gold medal at the 2020 Tokyo Summer Olympics
- ₹75 lakh (US$110,000) from the Government of India.[64]
- ₹6 crore (US$840,000) from the Government of Haryana, a Class-I state government appointment and a plot of land for an athletics centre.[65][66]
- ₹2 crore (US$280,000) from Government of Punjab[66]
- ₹1 crore (US$140,000) from Government of Manipur
- ₹1 crore (US$140,000) from Board of Control for Cricket in India[66]
- ₹1 crore (US$140,000) from Chennai Super Kings and a personalised jersey[66]
- ₹25 lakh (US$35,000) from the Elan realty group, Gurugram[66]
- ₹75 lakh (US$110,000) from the Indian Olympic Association[67]
I can bet if Anju Bobby George got even half of facilities which Neeraj got she would have easily got a medal in long jump
The other guy was Dillep Tirkey or Ignes Tirkey and If i rememebr correctly they put a picture of his scooter in that article . Naveen Patnaik did alot for Hockey . Tamil Nadu has its own talents , you guys are busy in winning science nobles and running organizations like ISRO , BARC and DRDO .Bro that was the earlier era I speak of for sure....80s, 90s up to 2000s.
I remember reading india today article back in the 90s about Dhanraj Pillay (since we haven't mentioned a Tamil yet here).... and that era of Indian hockey....he stood out when all else looked near entirely lost cause (we were regularly losing to even malaysia)....and he kept the baton for this new generation and spirit we got now.
So big credit to folks like him....and Anju and the tennis folks etc. They showed what could be done during the lowest point (i.e when biggest gap exists between promise/potential and reality).
But for each one like that (that we know names of that kept the fire burning), there was also plenty of sad stories too in that era....people that never made it to the window of years their talent earned them even back then for whatever reason.
India today did follow up article on another hockey guy (to contrast with Dhanraj)....I forgot his name, but he had raw unbridled spirit and oodles of talent in 90s...but I think he suffered injury and corruption at selectors for Indian hockey team did the rest, his career was finished. India today tracked him down, he was working for Indian railways as ticket collector etc. They had picture of him with hockey stick in his IR uniform...I still remember it clearly.
There was just too many stories like that, his was just one example.
It is very slow arduous process just like realisation of potential with everything else regarding India.
It wasn't Tirkey. It was another fella, less well known....Marathi iirc. Think literally just had couple years at most on the team. I forgot his name....might try look for it later.The other guy was Dillep Tirkey or Ignes Tirkey and If i rememebr correctly they put a picture of his scooter in that article .
I really want to mention the name of Kiren Rijuju Sir for doing a lot for Indian sports .
Dhanraj Pillay
Tamil Nadu has its own talents , you guys are busy in winning science nobles and running organizations like ISRO , BARC and DRDO .
Kashmir in stone pelting, ohh wait…Kerla can do wonders in sprints , swimming , volleyball
Jharkhand in archery
Manipur in football , boxing , weightlifting
Goa football
Maharashtra has good akharas in Kohlapur , not sure whats their condition now
Congrats., to India. Situation from what I can adduce is terrible. First there is monopoly of cricket which appears to have stunted everything. Then there appears to be almost zero investment in sport. I let others with more on ground feel to give insight but I find sport in Pakistan in a state of cardiac arrest.PK sports
Same disappointment, in the last 2 days, we got only 2 golds and 6 silvers, I just can't believe it...This was the worst olympics for my country,lost many gold medals and nothing but 4th places.
A big disappointment,35th place.
Im proud of the Netherlands,7th place.
Do better in Paris next time.Same disappointment, in the last 2 days, we got only 2 golds and 6 silvers, I just can't believe it...
This Nadeem guy is good , its always sooths to see kids from humble background reaches the international stage .Congrats., to India. Situation from what I can adduce is terrible. First there is monopoly of cricket which appears to have stunted everything. Then there appears to be almost zero investment in sport. I let others with more on ground feel to give insight but I find sport in Pakistan in a state of cardiac arrest.
I love football and have collection of Argentina, Germany, Sweden, England kits. Last week I almost bought the Turkish kit. The crescent and star reminded me of Pakistan. How lovely it would be to see green green crescent star to walk into world cup game at Wembley with 'Dil Dil Pakistan'.
More chance of Afghanistan getting there then Pakistan. Alas ...
Never use internet as pulse of what goes on real life. It gives you a distorted picture. I can say with almost 99% certitude that Pakistani people have one of the weakest nationalisms in the world. The emphasis on religion has just created a vague notion of Muslim identity. If Nadeem could have rendered his quest as Muslim versus Kaffirs he might have got flood of support and money.overseas Pakistanis show so much nationalism
Man the state he belongs to celebrates wrestlers more then cricketers and Neeraj will be an example which every parent in rural Haryan will give to motivate the children .Sad that his success will be overshadowed by Cricket.
Honestly feel sorry for Indian athletes.
In Turkey the same problem its always football, football and fcking football again. Dont get me wrong I love both sports just dont like how a nation just focuses on one sport while ignoring the rest.
I dont get what sports has to do with relegion , relegion is personal thing .Never use internet as pulse of what goes on real life. It gives you a distorted picture. I can say with almost 99% certitude that Pakistani people have one of the weakest nationalisms in the world. The emphasis on religion has just created a vague notion of Muslim identity. If Nadeem could have rendered his quest as Muslim versus Kaffirs he might have got flood of support and money.