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[Nilgiri]

The CAA grants refuge to persecuted minorities in neighboring countries. It is quite critical that whatever our political differences, we should support the bill.

Pakistan: Muslim man forces Hindu boy to chant ‘Allahu Akbar’, abuse Hindu Gods​

Look at this link

Pakistan: Muslim man threatens and forces Hindu boy to chant 'Allahu Akbar', abuse Gods

Abdul Salam Abu Dawood had uploaded the video on his Youtube channel with the caption, "Hindu torture by Muslim in Pakistan. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

If electing not to use original headline of article (i.e to give your opinion statement etc), dont start a new thread with that statement.

Use an existing thread etc.

 

[kumata]

Same I ask of you @kumata

Done for me too. Apologies for delay.

 

[Nilgiri]

Bit of sport talk with the Indonesians:

Warkop Indonesia

defencehub.live

@crixus @Raptor @VCheng et al. forgot to tag you

 

[Nilgiri]

https://www.india.com/viral/tokyo-olympics-mirabai-chanu-rewards-truck-drivers-who-gave-her-free-lifts-during-training-days-humility-wins-hearts-see-tweets-4867970/

 

[crixus]

Neeraj Chopra 1st Indian To Win Olympic Gold In Athletics | Live Updates​

Neeraj Chopra, Gold Medallist, Is An Army Subedar: 10 Things To Know

India's Neeraj Chopra, who won the men's javelin today for the country's first ever Olympic athletics gold, is also a soldier in the Indian Army. Mr Chopra, 23, managed a winning best of 87.58 metres to go one better than India's previous best.

www.ndtv.com

 

[crixus]

@Jackdaws @Nilgiri @Zapper @FalconSlayersDFI , please include all fellow Indians

 

[crixus]

Haryana a state of 25 million people

2020 Tokyo Olympics 1 gold 1 silver 1 bronze

 

[Zapper]

Haryana a state of 2.5 million people

2020 Tokyo Olympics 1 gold 1 silver 1 bronze

Neeraj Chopra has Maratha ancestry...their family migrated to Haryana

 

[crixus]

Neeraj Chopra has Maratha ancestry...their family migrated to Haryana

yes most probably , all those Maraths settled here after third battle and majority of them introduce them as Jats we have Pawars , chavan as surnames mainly in the villages between GT road and Yamuna .

Even the MLA of my home town is Surender Panwar

Surender Panwar(Indian National Congress(INC)):Constituency- SONIPAT(SONIPAT) - Affidavit Information of Candidate:

It provides criminal and financial background information on candidates, MPs and MLAs contesting in elections.It also has information on income and expenditure of political parties.

myneta.info

If migration is the point almost all jats in Haryana migrated from Iran

@Zapper so lets agree a Haryanvi Maratha broke the glass celing

 

[Jackdaws]

Just enjoy it.

 

[crixus]

Just enjoy it.

you can find the picture of KD Jadhav along with dara singh and Lord Hanuman in Akharas in Haryana . He is legendary figure in my state

 

[Raptor]

Very good although winning and losing is a part of game this would encourage young aspirants!
Commendable and fantastic job.

 

[Zapper]

yes most probably , all those Maraths settled here after third battle and majority of them introduce them as Jats we have Pawars , chavan as surnames mainly in the villages between GT road and Yamuna .

Even the MLA of my home town is Surender Panwar

Surender Panwar(Indian National Congress(INC)):Constituency- SONIPAT(SONIPAT) - Affidavit Information of Candidate:

It provides criminal and financial background information on candidates, MPs and MLAs contesting in elections.It also has information on income and expenditure of political parties.

myneta.info

If migration is the point almost all jats in Haryana migrated from Iran

@Zapper so lets agree a Haryanvi Maratha broke the glass celing

Haryana is still the sports powerhouse of India...irrespective of his ancestry, if it was not for the sports culture of Haryana...I highly doubt one could make it residing in Maharashtra

 

[crixus]

Haryana is still the sports powerhouse of India...irrespective of his ancestry, if it was not for the sports culture of Haryana...I highly doubt one could make it residing in Maharashtra

Its rural Haryana which is real sports force , dangal , kabaddhi are like every evening sports in villages ..urban Haryana is another burger type thats the reason we dont have any cricket legend.

Bhiwani --> Boxing culture
Sonepat , Rohtak --> Wrestling/Kabaddhi
Kurukshetra --->hockey

 

[Nilgiri]

Yep specifically woke up in morning to watch it (and also the repechage bronze that bajrang won comfy just before it).

Was great moment that will remain in my mind a long time.

A real honour to see our flag and hear our anthem played in the main olympic stadium (for first time ever that I know).

Let us not get too caught up on state specifics, there is clearly a model (of nurturing and growing talent and deploying it for experience and use feedback loop) that is now providing dividends be it kushti stables in haryana or gopichand academy in hyderabad etc.

States that have done well and harnessed their preset advantage will do well and even better going forward

.From general observation of worldwide sports, as soon as you reach raw population more than 10 million or so, it all kicks in to same effect (i.e whether you are 20 million or 200 million....you can harvest good crop if you have the system to do it.

I think its new era for Indian sports starting now, aligning well with the promise this decade holds for India that must be allowed to flourish.

I can finally put to bed my own memories of embarrasment/apologism (with peers etc)when single medals were the norm. In fact first olympics I watched (Barcelona) was a duck.

Back then we didn't quite say that bengal (Paes) and andhra pradesh (malleswari) carried entire weight of country either with their single medals in 96 and 00.

Early days yet....I doubt even 10% of the system has really impressed into India as whole.

Even in this olympics there was potential to win a bunch more golds (in wrestling, archery, badminton, hockey and especially shooting). We have to keep working on raw supply of the best talent.....and also calmness+consistency when the pressure event arrives.

 

[Nilgiri]

Its rural Haryana which is real sports force , dangal , kabaddhi are like every evening sports in villages ..urban Haryana is another burger type thats the reason we dont have any cricket legend.

Bhiwani --> Boxing culture
Sonepat , Rohtak --> Wrestling/Kabaddhi
Kurukshetra --->hockey

Yup this is exactly the kind of thing more states have to do to unlock.

North East has big role too to play, as mary Kom and Mirabai Chanu show.

The village culture is one thing, but you need the vertical access to really grow the best to their top tier.

 

[crixus]

Yup this is exactly the kind of thing more states have to do to unlock.

North East has big role too to play, as mary Kom and Mirabai Chanu show.

The village culture is one thing, but you need the vertical access to really grow the best to their top tier.

Kerla can do wonders in sprints , swimming , volleyball
Jharkhand in archery
Manipur in football , boxing , weightlifting
Goa football
Maharashtra has good akharas in Kohlapur , not sure whats their condition now

 

[crixus]

@Nilgiri the reason i said rural Haryana , is the people are strong they have balanced diet and now as govt. is promoting sports so even parents are ok as they see how a good player can earn in sports too and its a carrer like becoming soldier in army or constable in police .
The bottom line is almost every village has akharas and some old man teaching the basics of wrestling

 

[crixus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1424059882064338945

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri the reason i said rural Haryana , is the people are strong they have balanced diet and now as govt. is promoting sports so even parents are ok as they see how a good player can earn in sports too and its a carrer like becoming soldier in army or constable in police .
The bottom line is almost every village has akharas and some old man teaching the basics of wrestling

Yes that's what I mean by preset advantages.

The natural system in a state being somewhat aligned to what one can find in western (olympic) disciplines.

This ties into things like Kabbadi not finding itself present in olympics yet (so India cannot even medal anywhere, even though its athletic sport much more than most in olympics). Or even Cricket for that matter (given there is both baseball and softball).

Anyway, some (many) states do not have this (preset advantage)...there's simply other activities (athletic or otherwise) that are going on.... that do not have this kind of nurturing and ready alliance with international achievement potential.

That will be trickier and longer to develop....but gopichand shows the way. Need breakthrough success and then the guy that did it needs dedication to cultivate more. His success lives through not just him, but all those sishya that trained under him....i.e the system he started.

BTW, Haryana is 25 million people not 2.5 million

This olympics was full of hidden surprises for me too.

Lovlina Borgohain for example is under-rated one what she did.

Assamese girl, she took on higher ranked opponent (Taiwanese girl in QF boxing, who was bulkier than her too) and beat her through tenacity and determination....and letting all the training flow well.

She then hit inevitable brickwall as the true tier A folks came (as soon as SF, it was surmeneli from Turkey whom @T-123456 calls "monster" heh).

But point is we got what it takes, we just need lot more of them to develop to tier A consistency.

In comparison, I knew Neeraj was pretty much shoe-in (and could even be gold) because he is peaking now compared to the season's best of the others in javelin top tier...

He has lot to give us still I feel (hopefully he can get to 90+ m range)...as he is young.

Though maybe not so ridiculous long career like that czech bronze medallist who is 38 years old!

I will say more on this stuff a bit later....to answer some things @Jackdaws brought up in warkop discussion.