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Sometimes really feel how lucky we are to born in Indepenent country , what kind of feelings our forefathers have when they hear the news like hangings of Khidiram Bose and Bhagat Singh .

God bless India
My great grandfather was tried for sedition by the British. Couldn't be prouder.
 

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The Govt. should be held accountable for everything from Pegasus to Petrol /Diesel to certainly the Covid fiasco. The opposition is filled with idiots led by RG who has 0 credibility.

Absolutely right and I agree with word to word what you said
You both don't live in india right now , do you ?

Try reading ezsasa's analysis on dfi on these issues ,you will get a clarity , do you really think that our opposition which can create a situation out of fake issue wil spare a genuine issue , thing is more complicated , emotional statement backed with half cooked facts just create a meltdown and frustration .
 

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You both don't live in india right now , do you ?

Try reading ezsasa's analysis on dfi on these issues ,you will get a clarity , do you really think that our opposition which can create a situation out of fake issue wil spare a genuine issue , thing is more complicated , emotional statement backed with half cooked facts just create a meltdown and frustration .
I live in Bombay. Where are you?
 

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Ok. So which issues you think the Govt is not answerable for and is being blown out of proportion

1. Covid response / oxygen crisis

2. Fuel prices

3. Pegasus
Covid response - who all are responsible is quite hard to explain , many state government fucked up ,and health is majorly under state government ,so is police (who will be responsible for surveillance ) .

People played a role , so does the Variant , also the oxygen demand was disproportionately high . Many states even after getting funds lacked in deployment of oxygen generation plants . Many states were so hopeless that they were busy in smuggling .

Unlike first wave , people ignored the situation till it turned grim .

So who us responsible is actually what percentage of responsibility is on them , and ut bring a hell lot of people including central government , so not questioning them is a kind of display of political inclination .

2 fuel prices , so this is a bad thing to do in times of pandemic ,but can you explain our financial situation right now .

If we don't invest in infra , health , education now , forget of any industrialization wet dreams .

Half of gst collection goes to states ,yet project at state level are delayed , and central government has to take up the job many times , look at all major projects , funding comes majorly from Central govt , so where is state money going ? It basically get wasted as project get delayed or the location of project is unfavorable ,or the company chosen is of high risk .

States are the bodues with good budget and less accountability in our system .

States can reduce fuel cess , but the know it , it is doing bad pr for centre not state ,so leave it and fill ghe coffers .

If you are thinking of the forex ,then look at east and the possible war scenario where lot of equipment might be needed to be imported or to even pay fuel bill in that situation .


3 pegasus -this is a joke ,if you believe this then find a way to prevent google , Facebook from looking at the porn collection in your phone , you are willing to be tracked by some foreign company who will supply it to their government but can't stand that your own government might be tracking some people who are suspected to be involved in things rogue , good luck then , slavery is re established ,and slaves are enjoying it .


Situation is quite bad overall in world ,and if you wanna blame government and try to forget about ground reality then it's okay , many people exist , you have right of opinion
 

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Covid response - who all are responsible is quite hard to explain , many state government fucked up ,and health is majorly under state government ,so is police (who will be responsible for surveillance ) .

People played a role , so does the Variant , also the oxygen demand was disproportionately high . Many states even after getting funds lacked in deployment of oxygen generation plants . Many states were so hopeless that they were busy in smuggling .

Unlike first wave , people ignored the situation till it turned grim .

So who us responsible is actually what percentage of responsibility is on them , and ut bring a hell lot of people including central government , so not questioning them is a kind of display of political inclination .

2 fuel prices , so this is a bad thing to do in times of pandemic ,but can you explain our financial situation right now .

If we don't invest in infra , health , education now , forget of any industrialization wet dreams .

Half of gst collection goes to states ,yet project at state level are delayed , and central government has to take up the job many times , look at all major projects , funding comes majorly from Central govt , so where is state money going ? It basically get wasted as project get delayed or the location of project is unfavorable ,or the company chosen is of high risk .

States are the bodues with good budget and less accountability in our system .

States can reduce fuel cess , but the know it , it is doing bad pr for centre not state ,so leave it and fill ghe coffers .

If you are thinking of the forex ,then look at east and the possible war scenario where lot of equipment might be needed to be imported or to even pay fuel bill in that situation .


3 pegasus -this is a joke ,if you believe this then find a way to prevent google , Facebook from looking at the porn collection in your phone , you are willing to be tracked by some foreign company who will supply it to their government but can't stand that your own government might be tracking some people who are suspected to be involved in things rogue , good luck then , slavery is re established ,and slaves are enjoying it .


Situation is quite bad overall in world ,and if you wanna blame government and try to forget about ground reality then it's okay , many people exist , you have right of opinion
Oh, so the Govt is not to blame? Especially considering they came on a platform of good governance, reducing inflation, increasing gdp, reducing fuel prices etc.

Fact is that Modi Shah combine have taking an economic wrecking ball on the economy and failed to deliver on promises. Forget getting black money back - under their watch Nirav Modi and Mallya escaped India.
 

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Oh, so the Govt is not to blame? Especially considering they came on a platform of good governance, reducing inflation, increasing gdp, reducing fuel prices etc.

Fact is that Modi Shah combine have taking an economic wrecking ball on the economy and failed to deliver on promises. Forget getting black money back - under their watch Nirav Modi and Mallya escaped India.
You know sometimes cable bills should be avoided and subscription of news channel should be dumped for some time to clean up mind .

And i am not asking for a clean chit to centre ,but not blaming them for what they haven't done or can't control

Nirav and mallya were doing it since long time ,it was that time that info came public and they escaped, what you want , modi to take a suv and jump on nirav's plane before take off , kill all on board and jump off from plane with nirav attached to him with a parachute .😑

Congress was directly involved in nirav's case and mallaya was spotted n number of time with rahul gandhi and co ,even though he was not the pm or a minister .

I think throwing mud before checking facts is quite wrong on your part .


Coming on inflation , it was quite good capped under upa 1 , don't give me demonization etc , all digital economy we have exist due to it .

And during a global slowdown and US china trade war , where you decide to join US camp because china will suck the last penny out of you , that slowdown was expected .

Reply in number our export composition in 2011 or 2013 and today , if you want to not change the situation then it's disaster on way .

We were kind of raw material suppliers , our export basket was quantity but no diversity or quality .

Tell me about automobile , we were maintaining same quality for years ,and with sudden rise of china in 2010's ,it would be negligible automotive export today ,if we didn't course corrected .

Lot of smaller components manufacturer are coming here for value addition .

If this is destruction of economy ,then sorry we don't have same definition of economics .

Either you can sell same product for years aand never try to grow or become cost competitive to china ,which may one day take away your market or you improve your offering .

Our industry needs to grow and that will require certain slowdown and certain boost up , or we can become socialist , and government goes to every nook and corner to beg for some funds as we don't want our worker to work ,we provide them free food and all , in return you can take over oyr country , cause we want slavery.

Sorry socialist is not what i and others want , some trouble phase if give way to good times ,that so be it .
 

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You know sometimes cable bills should be avoided and subscription of news channel should be dumped for some time to clean up mind .

And i am not asking for a clean chit to centre ,but not blaming them for what they haven't done or can't control

Nirav and mallya were doing it since long time ,it was that time that info came public and they escaped, what you want , modi to take a suv and jump on nirav's plane before take off , kill all on board and jump off from plane with nirav attached to him with a parachute .😑

Congress was directly involved in nirav's case and mallaya was spotted n number of time with rahul gandhi and co ,even though he was not the pm or a minister .

I think throwing mud before checking facts is quite wrong on your part .


Coming on inflation , it was quite good capped under upa 1 , don't give me demonization etc , all digital economy we have exist due to it .

And during a global slowdown and US china trade war , where you decide to join US camp because china will suck the last penny out of you , that slowdown was expected .

Reply in number our export composition in 2011 or 2013 and today , if you want to not change the situation then it's disaster on way .

We were kind of raw material suppliers , our export basket was quantity but no diversity or quality .

Tell me about automobile , we were maintaining same quality for years ,and with sudden rise of china in 2010's ,it would be negligible automotive export today ,if we didn't course corrected .

Lot of smaller components manufacturer are coming here for value addition .

If this is destruction of economy ,then sorry we don't have same definition of economics .

Either you can sell same product for years aand never try to grow or become cost competitive to china ,which may one day take away your market or you improve your offering .

Our industry needs to grow and that will require certain slowdown and certain boost up , or we can become socialist , and government goes to every nook and corner to beg for some funds as we don't want our worker to work ,we provide them free food and all , in return you can take over oyr country , cause we want slavery.

Sorry socialist is not what i and others want , some trouble phase if give way to good times ,that so be it .
Nothing quite so dramatic. Putting them on ECL would suffice. Infact Mallya was on ECL till he some how magically moved to the watch list instead of the control list while the civil aviation ministry was obviously under the Modi Govt. Maybe you've subscribed to the wrong channels.

Lol - Digital economy has nothing at all to do with demonetization.
 

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Nothing quite so dramatic. Putting them on ECL would suffice. Infact Mallya was on ECL till he some how magically moved to the watch list instead of the control list while the civil aviation ministry was obviously under the Modi Govt. Maybe you've subscribed to the wrong channels.

Lol - Digital economy has nothing at all to do with demonetization.
Show me detail of first claim ,no opinion peice ,but some charts and official snapshot from website please .

Market and public sentiment ......
Demonetization , cash crunch , graph of new user addition 😑😑😑😑😑.

Leave it , you will have hard time , except some op ed , I don't think you have much backing here
 

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Show me detail of first claim ,no opinion peice ,but some charts and official snapshot from website please .

Market and public sentiment ......
Demonetization , cash crunch , graph of new user addition 😑😑😑😑😑.

Leave it , you will have hard time , except some op ed , I don't think you have much backing here
Sometimes it helps to know what you are talking about


On October 16, 2015 the Central Bureau of Investigation, which was probing allegations of financial irregularities against Vijay Mallya, issued a notice saying that the liquor and airline tycoon should be detained if he tried to leave India.

On November 24, 2015 the CBI issued a fresh look-out circular (LOC) against Vijay Mallya. This notice said that the only action to be taken in case Mallya reached any port to leave India was to simply inform the CBI and let the businessman continue on his travels.

This was done, sources within the CBI told India Today TV, since the October 16 look-out circular had a "mistake". The notice was issued by the CBI's Mumbai unit and an officer there 'mistakenly' ticked the checkbox meant for detention while filling out the look-out notice, the sources said.

The mistake, apparently, came to light only on November 23 when Vijay Mallya was to leave India for a day-long foreign trip.

When he reached the airport, the Bureau of Immigration, which is tasked with regulating the inflow and outflow of passengers at ports, called the CBI to ask whether the October 16 look-out notice should be executed, the sources said.

The CBI told the agency: No.
 

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Sometimes it helps to know what you are talking about


On October 16, 2015 the Central Bureau of Investigation, which was probing allegations of financial irregularities against Vijay Mallya, issued a notice saying that the liquor and airline tycoon should be detained if he tried to leave India.

On November 24, 2015 the CBI issued a fresh look-out circular (LOC) against Vijay Mallya. This notice said that the only action to be taken in case Mallya reached any port to leave India was to simply inform the CBI and let the businessman continue on his travels.

This was done, sources within the CBI told India Today TV, since the October 16 look-out circular had a "mistake". The notice was issued by the CBI's Mumbai unit and an officer there 'mistakenly' ticked the checkbox meant for detention while filling out the look-out notice, the sources said.

The mistake, apparently, came to light only on November 23 when Vijay Mallya was to leave India for a day-long foreign trip.

When he reached the airport, the Bureau of Immigration, which is tasked with regulating the inflow and outflow of passengers at ports, called the CBI to ask whether the October 16 look-out notice should be executed, the sources said.

The CBI told the agency: No.
Till when was he on ,no fly list .


And were the charges on him proved by then , was he cooperating with cbi back then ??

The circular corrected , not changed .

And he is going to be extradited , most of debt is already cleared . And who let him do all the corruption.


Modi is like a blame damsel for you , even if you have a affair out of house , modi will be blamed
 

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Till when was he on ,no fly list .


And were the charges on him proved by then , was he cooperating with cbi back then ??

The circular corrected , not changed .

And he is going to be extradited , most of debt is already cleared . And who let him do all the corruption.


Modi is like a blame damsel for you , even if you have a affair out of house , modi will be blamed
Lol. Read the article again. Slowly.
 

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You both don't live in india right now , do you ?

Try reading ezsasa's analysis on dfi on these issues ,you will get a clarity , do you really think that our opposition which can create a situation out of fake issue wil spare a genuine issue , thing is more complicated , emotional statement backed with half cooked facts just create a meltdown and frustration .
I am guilty of not in India but still carrying Indian passport , and what i meant is all the issues should be discussed in Parliament and discussion dose not mean only opposition can blame the govt but govt can also put its point in parliament .
As far as Corona is concerned , it still needs to be discussed in Parliament
 
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