TR Navy Conceptual & Technology-Demonstration Designs

[Anmdt]

Who's AMT?

That's an F-14 landing. Maybe we can offer it to Iran lol.

A ship design company located in Istanbul. They have handled design of some commissioned platforms (emergency response and diving boat that i know). And also supports Dearsan in concepts.

 

[Sanchez]

A ship design company located in Istanbul. They have handled design of some commissioned platforms (emergency response and diving boat that i know). And also supports Dearsan in concepts.

Found it. Linking it here for future reference if we might need it.

AKUAMARİNTEK

Some interesting designs caught my eye like the trimaran USV.

AMT 16 UNMANED TRIRMARAN

 

[TR_123456]

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Got yourself a visionless aircraft carrier design by AMT. Notice the coupling of PIRI IRST and Smart-S,lack of EW yet the plenty of details on life rafts. The design is new, from 2022-2023.

When did they design this,in the 80's?

 

[boredaf]

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Got yourself a visionless aircraft carrier design by AMT. Notice the coupling of PIRI IRST and Smart-S,lack of EW yet the plenty of details on life rafts. The design is new, from 2022-2023.

I'm pretty sure you can "design" a better looking and more detailed ship in Simple Planes, and that's simplistic game about designing planes. Wtf is this?

 

[Anmdt]

When did they design this,in the 80's?

Actually this year, that's how these companies operate. They hear the news about a new platform and sketches a concept as fast as possible, sometimes this bad, and tries to get to the front row.

I'm pretty sure you can "design" a better looking and more detailed ship in Simple Planes, and that's simplistic game about designing planes. Wtf is this?

Sketch, nothing further. Showing some top brass 'hey look my company can do concept of AC'.

 

[boredaf]

They hear the news about a new platform and sketches a concept as fast as possible, sometimes this bad, and tries to get to the front row.

Treating one of the (probably) hardest design projects on the planet like a fast fashion brand trying to get in front of a trend

 

[Anmdt]

Treating one of the (probably) hardest design projects on the planet like a fast fashion brand trying to get in front of a trend

That is pretty much the logic, top brass, in all countries, fancies some 3D renders more than 2D but rational sketches. The design would obviously not be it but they would hold on the argument of 'we made the first AC concept'

 

[Anmdt]

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A new river patrol boat by TAIS. @Isa Khan does Bangladeshi Navy has such a requirement?

Here we got the structural plan of the design;

It seems very spacious.

 

[Anmdt]

Here goes AMT's (Hence likely Dearsan's) AUV concepts,
Research - Hydrography - Oceanography oriented design;
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AUV version based on Seal Sub.
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Seal Sub itself
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Concepts are the easiest part (for this kind of a simple designs), i can do you several in an hour.

 

[UkroTurk]

Transport submarine???

USS Sealion (SS-315) - Wikipedia

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@Anmdt. Dear after convertion , this could submerge like submarine ?

 

[Anmdt]

Transport submarine???
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USS Sealion (SS-315) - Wikipedia

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@Anmdt. Dear after convertion , this could submerge like submarine ?

It is a submarine, it submerges and navigates like a submarine. What conversion do you imply?

 

[UkroTurk]

It is a submarine, it submerges and navigates like a submarine. What conversion do you imply?

Not conversion, converted my bad


First it had been a standard submarine, then they converted transformed it into this transfersubmarine. so i wonder if it could submerge within new shape.

 

[Brave Janissary]

Ladies and Gentleman's ;

I'm wanting the present yours to My Gabya's Last Chance Upgrade İdea for 4x Vls Modded ones. And waiting your comments;

All of us know that Gabya's is the heart of the our navy. They are maybe old but they have a great ocean resisted, long ranged, easy operable and fixable, user friendly ships when compared Meko's. Maybe non-vls variants of 4 ships will be retired in near future but vls modded ones will be swim more longer than others.

Also I'm waiting so much to Tf-2000 or Asfat As-3600 but there is a long years for building one of thems. For this reason I'm offering non modernizaing just attach him many quick deployable add-ons. We can deattach and use hims other platforms if they are retired also.

That's My idea ;

What if we deattach Mk-13 Launcher and add the location of him to Truck type cheap hydrolic Siper Launchers. 3x6 or 2x8 Siper can easily fit there. Also Aselsan have that kind of works :

Also Exaust Fire Can Pervent That Kind Of Attachment

On the other we must change a little bit many things for effectivenes.

We can add the superstructure to ship Harpoon or atmaca , Mar-d for Air Defence Radar (Even Gökdeniz Have one of them ), Akr-D B2 for Fcr like locations who spotted on the upper picture.

And in the and we will have easily ;

Bms : Genesis
Long Range S band Radar : Smart-s Mk2 (Similar Role wirh Çafrad Umr)
X band Air Defence Radar : Mar-D X band Radar (Similar Role wirh Çafrad ÇFR)
Fire Control Radar for Midcourse Guidance : Akr-D Block 2 (Similar Role wirh Çafrad AYR)

Long Range Air Defence : 16x Siper B1
Medium Range Air Defence : 32x Essm B1
Short Range Air Defence : 1x Phalanx

Good İnterim Light Air Defence Frigates. Dont Forget Fr/It Horizon's have 48x Aster 15&30 like and gabya have 48x Siper B1&Essm. Also there is very high Potential for export. İt's very common ship

 

[Aqerdf]

Losing to ability of carrying/firing 40 SM (and other missiles does have SM dimensions) is not satisfactory, to me atleast.

Those modded ones, on paper, can cary 48 SM missile or 48 Harpoon style CM. I wouldn't want to lose this.

MK-13 must live. But with servos etc. maybe, instead of hydrolics (?)...

 

[Brave Janissary]

Sm-1 Mr missiles still up to date ? What about it's storage . Even we are still fill the all 32 catridge on all ships ?

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Sm-1 Mr missiles still up to date ? What about it's storage . Even we are still fill the all 32 catridge on all ships ?

No lossing money to upgrade this free old given scrap ship from Usa .
Turkiye just needs to replace it one by one with its warship program . Siper B1/2 is almost ready .
Other tech is aslo ready ,Aesa radar . Sonar radar . Combat managment computers and other warship tech Engines if Usa dont give we can biy from other Russia or China just as S400 long range system . just will and money is needed by Turk goverment and enlarged Istanbul class or Destroyer Tf 2000 can start to build .

 

[Yasar_TR]

Re: Gabya Class

These old ships, as per @Brave Janissary ’s comments, are the backbone of our naval surface power at the moment. We have 8 of them. 4 have VLS and contain extensive modernisation within their hulls. They are the largest combatant ships in Turkish Navy (with the exception of TCG Anadolu) with a displacement of 4100 tons and a length of 135.6metres. They have 2 x LM2500 gas turbines which gives them the capability to speed to 30 knots very quickly. They have good sea keeping capabilities and a decent operational range.

Until we have in operational status 4 x TF4500 or 4 x TF2000 in our navy, these “old” ships will still be in commission. So to keep them “current” and capable to handle newer challenges of the modern sea warfare, we may need to alter and modernise further, certain aspects of these vessels.

The new Ada Class based Hisar Class OPVs will help improve the fleet’s aging ships stature when 2 + 8 ships are all built in succession and ready for sailing. But they are no replacement of these frigates. Even the new Istanbul Class would be hard pushed in replacing these ships. Especially from a seakeeping point of view. But instead of waiting for 4 new TF2000 hulls, I had rather we built 8 more I Class. Then with 12 I Class we can retire these “old” ships. But even then the first 4 x I-Class hulls will help retire the Yavuz Class. Then it will be the turn of the Gabya Class ships. The 4 latest ships with VLS will probably still be there sailing in to 2030s.

 

[Brave Janissary]

Ladies and Gentleman's ;

I'm wanting the present yours to My Gabya's Last Chance Upgrade İdea for 4x Vls Modded ones. And waiting your comments;

All of us know that Gabya's is the heart of the our navy. They are maybe old but they have a great ocean resisted, long ranged, easy operable and fixable, user friendly ships when compared Meko's. Maybe non-vls variants of 4 ships will be retired in near future but vls modded ones will be swim more longer than others.

Also I'm waiting so much to Tf-2000 or Asfat As-3600 but there is a long years for building one of thems. For this reason I'm offering non modernizaing just attach him many quick deployable add-ons. We can deattach and use hims other platforms if they are retired also.

That's My idea ;

What if we deattach Mk-13 Launcher and add the location of him to Truck type cheap hydrolic Siper Launchers. 3x6 or 2x8 Siper can easily fit there. Also Aselsan have that kind of works :

Also Exaust Fire Can Pervent That Kind Of Attachment

On the other we must change a little bit many things for effectivenes.

We can add the superstructure to ship Harpoon or atmaca , Mar-d for Air Defence Radar (Even Gökdeniz Have one of them ), Akr-D B2 for Fcr like locations who spotted on the upper picture.

And in the and we will have easily ;

Bms : Genesis
Long Range S band Radar : Smart-s Mk2 (Similar Role wirh Çafrad Umr)
X band Air Defence Radar : Mar-D X band Radar (Similar Role wirh Çafrad ÇFR)
Fire Control Radar for Midcourse Guidance : Akr-D Block 2 (Similar Role wirh Çafrad AYR)

Long Range Air Defence : 16x Siper B1
Medium Range Air Defence : 32x Essm B1
Short Range Air Defence : 1x Phalanx

Good İnterim Light Air Defence Frigates. Dont Forget Fr/It Horizon's have 48x Aster 15&30 like and gabya have 48x Siper B1&Essm. Also there is very high Potential for export. İt's very common ship

A Turkish Gabya in Libya. If they have a 16x Siper and 32x essm with smart-s mk2 and Mar-D sensor suite with help of solution who I’am stated upside it will be more effective and secure air defence umbrella againts from all ranges and alltitudes.

 

[Heartbang]

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A Turkish Gabya in Libya. If they have a 16x Siper and 32x essm with smart-s mk2 and Mar-D sensor suite with help of solution who I’am stated upside it will be more effective and secure air defence umbrella againts from all ranges and alltitudes.

Nice idea, but not feasible.

 

[UkroTurk]

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A Turkish Gabya in Libya. If they have a 16x Siper and 32x essm with smart-s mk2 and Mar-D sensor suite with help of solution who I’am stated upside it will be more effective and secure air defence umbrella againts from all ranges and alltitudes.

First i would add 4 AESA Plates on everycorner for 360 degree realtime situational awareness.

Then against USV attacks , i would deploy UMTAS on every corner.

Also i wouldnt neglect UAV /Antiship missile attacks so i would add Bozdoğan missiles.


Therefor in every corner one AESA plate with 4XBozdoğan plus 4 x UMTAS would work autonomously.

İmagine, 4 of this launcher and 4 AESA Plates on the ship.
Therefor 4 X autonomous CIWS.





Then i would create new surface to surface rockets in shape of SM-1 /SM-2 in order to deploy in the mk-13 launchers.or i would reshape TRG-300/230 for mk-13.

İ wouldnt forget modern ASW such as Roketsan ASW rockets, Very light torpedos, Synthetic Aperture Sonar, towed sonar etc.