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Egypt is economical 10 times worste then Turkey or 20 times, with what money are they going to buy first of all? Before they accepted our terms with EEZ and Libya they should not sell them weapons.
 

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Drone diplomacy has its limits. It works with Small dirt poor countries that are in desperate need of affordable & effective air power to put down rebels and keep the state together. Or with relatively big countries that are good faith actors, at least when it comes to Türkiye and its interest. For example, with Pak, Indonesia & BD.

However, countries like Egypt and UAE are big but NOT good faith actors. In this case, drone diplomacy does not create enough leverage to keep them away from harming Turkish Interests. In fact there is always high risk of backfiring.

But more importantly, if Türkiye wants leadership, it needs to learn how to act on its principles consistently. That require staying away from the temptation of short term lucrative export deals.

See, USA. Whether we agree with its policy or not, by and large it has the consistency of blocking of billions of dollars of arms deal for the sake of what it thinks as its core interests and principles.

On the other hand, French makes some good stuff, sell it to whomever can pay and makes lots of bucks. Yet they don’t have any serious say in world affairs. Because leadership requires weight and consistency.

The economy is a driving factor in these sales I think. That or the off the books budgets for pet projects. Erdogan hands out money by the bag during elections
 

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All this is like we are living in some kind of alternate universe.

In the next episode of Turkish Defence Exports:

Turkiye signed a contract for the export of Koral, KAAN, ANKA 3 and KIZILELMA with Greece. President Ersogan: "Nobody will be able to disrupt the friendly and brotherly relations between Turkiye and Greece.

Russia and Turkiye to jointly produce Bayraktar TB-3 in Russia.

Negotiations are ongoing for the supply of SIPER Block II and Bora SRBM to brother Armenia. Work continues within the framework of the Military Cooperation Agreement signed earlier.
 

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All this is like we are living in some kind of alternate universe.

In the next episode of Turkish Defence Exports:

Turkiye signed a contract for the export of Koral, KAAN, ANKA 3 and KIZILELMA with Greece. President Ersogan: "Nobody will be able to disrupt the friendly and brotherly relations between Turkiye and Greece.

Russia and Turkiye to jointly produce Bayraktar TB-3 in Russia.

Negotiations are ongoing for the supply of SIPER Block II and Bora SRBM to brother Armenia. Work continues within the framework of the Military Cooperation Agreement signed earlier.

Also you fogot to mention, a trilateral agreement was signed for the development of 6th gen aircraft.
 

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So it will be a Bayraktar showdown in the region.

Somalia vs Ethiopia
Ethiopia vs Egypt

It will be interesting.
Would love to see showdown between tai anka and bayraktar..and both of them armed with sungur too.
Might see aerial battle between them...ha2
 
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Turkey agrees to provide drones to Egypt

05.02.2024 • 08:56

Turkey agreed to provide its increasingly popular drones to Egypt after the two countries normalised ties following a decade of rupture, Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan said on Sunday.

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan is set to travel to Egypt on Feb. 14 to meet counterpart Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, in his first visit since Ankara and Cairo upgraded relations by appointing ambassadors last year.

 

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Lets say there is. Who will buy drones from you when your drones start malfunctioning the moment they operate in Libya?
A kill switch does not mean the drone malfunction and drop from the sky. It could transmit its coordinate to friendly forces which takes them out with larger drones. This will now advertise that you also need the big drone for AA, not just TB2.
 

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Haluk Görgün has tons of handwritten notes in front of him. The ones under his elbow are crossed out, if I'm not mistaken. The folder on his right is full to the brim. In front of his Egyptian counterpart and his assistant is an empty notebook.

It's a photo that suggests that the conversation is more about Egypt's long list of needs.

 
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On the flip side, maybe it means we have repeat customers from all these rivals who now have a dependency on TR
 

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On the flip side, maybe it means we have repeat customers from all these rivals who now have a dependency on TR
Being Egypt's primary defense supplier and solution partner can also contribute positively to the alignment of the two countries' interests.
 

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Regarding Egypt deal: Egypt Faces a Significant Economic Challenge, Arguably Its Most Severe in Recent Memory and at the heart of this crisis lies economic and political factors. While the IMF and Gulf states have provided significant support in the past, their willingness to extend further free assistance or for returns like assets, land, ports, or even concessions on critical national security issues, is waning. This shift stems from current economic model, mainly influenced by the military's involvement, is unsustainable and prone to recurring crises.

Providing additional aid without addressing these issues, all argue, would be pouring money into a bottomless pit. Consequently, any future support is reportedly conditioned: scaling back the military's economic involvement to pre-Sisi levels or, at least, implementing reforms that demonstrate a clear commitment to a more sustainable model. This condition likely poses a significant challenge for Sisi and his military elite, as reducing the military's economic influence is perceived as politically impossible.

In response to this pressure, He has begun exploring any available means to alleviate the strain, possibly including the drone announcement or they might go far to an EEZ deal depending on what Erdogan has to offer. Some argue that the drone deal is actually for Sudan, especially considering rumors of previous drone acquisitions from Turkey for Sudan and the purpose of the announcement being a message to the UAE. Another analysis, with less potential for contradiction, suggests that the move is with Saudi permission if intended for Sudan after they recently headed to Iran for help.
 
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Does it being on NCMS mean its gonna be license built? I hope not tbh

Assembly is not that hard. Specially when you already have a proven design. But nobody gives the technology of how to fabricate HD IIR and image sensors.

Iirc, Aselflir-300 used to contain foreign sensor until ASELSAN made their own.
 
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