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If this is like any of the other deals, Repkon is only supplying the production line and machinery. Sadly no JV or long lasting partnership. Still good, but would be nicer to be part of the supply chain.
 

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Türkiye Defence Industries secretary meets army chief

Chief of Army Staff General Waker-Uz-Zaman with Secretary of Defence Industries of Türkiye Prof Haluk Gorgun at the Army headquarters in Dhaka on Tuesday.

During the meeting, along with an exchange of greetings, they discussed strengthening the existing defence cooperation between the two countries, according to the Bangladesh Army.

The Turkish secretary assured extended cooperation and support for the development of the defence industry in Bangladesh.

In response, the Army chief expressed his desire to produce various modern military equipment and develop defence technologies in Bangladesh in close cooperation with Türkiye.




He is also set to meet air and Navy chiefs as well as chief advisor Dr. Yunus.
 

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Portugal planning to upgrade their 3 Vasco da Gama Class Meko 200 frigates, including major modifications. Tender is open to all NATO countries. Let's see if there'll be a Turkish entry like the Oruçreis MLU package.

Portugal is planning to replace all their 5 frigates in two classes with a new, larger design, probably in batches for a total of 6 ships.

So many contenders here, but there could be a good cost effective solution from Istif.

 

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So many contenders here, but there could be a good cost effective solution from Istif.
Bro, @Anmdt had clarified few years ago that Istif Class had found its natural size and weight limit in TCG Istanbul. So anything bigger and heavier is not going to be Istif Class.
Portuguese are looking for various classes of ships from 4000 tons up 5000 tons to 6000 tons; probably 2 each. (please see the translation below). Our Istanbul Class is a 3100 ton ship (A very light frigate).

Portugal has two overseas territories; Azores (1500km away) and Madeira (1000km away) out in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean which is prone to heavy swells and adverse sea conditions. So they need ships with hulls that can manage the weather of the Atlantic ocean.

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@Defence360 recently received information that the 🇵🇹 @MarinhaPT is seeking to replace the Vasco da Gama and Bartolomeu Dias Class frigates with 6 frigates. @MarinhaPT is considering the acquisition of ships with 4000 t, 5000 t and 6000 t of displacement, according to the same source.
unquote.

We can offer them smaller versions of our TF2000 destroyer. But would you want to buy a ship that is not even materialised? There has to be real good incentives to bring them round to us!

We need 4000 to 5000 ton ships ourselves. May be developing and building them together can be the incentives to swing them round.
 
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Bro, @Anmdt had clarified few years ago that Istif Class had found its natural size and weight limit in TCG Istanbul. So anything bigger and heavier is not going to be Istif Class.
Portuguese are looking for various classes of ships from 4000 tons up 5000 tons to 6000 tons; probably 2 each. (please see the translation below). Our Istanbul Class is a 3100 ton ship (A very light frigate).

Portugal has two overseas territories; Azores (1500km away) and Madeira (1000km away) out in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean which is prone to heavy swells and adverse sea conditions. So they need ships with hulls that can manage the weather of the Atlantic ocean.

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@Defence360 recently received information that the 🇵🇹 @MarinhaPT is seeking to replace the Vasco da Gama and Bartolomeu Dias Class frigates with 6 frigates. @MarinhaPT is considering the acquisition of ships with 4000 t, 5000 t and 6000 t of displacement, according to the same source.
unquote.

We can offer them smaller versions of our TF2000 destroyer. But would you want to buy a ship that is not even materialised? There has to be real good incentives to bring them round to us!

We need 4000 to 5000 ton ships ourselves. May be developing and building them together can be the incentives to swing them round.
Portugal don't have the money, manpower and expertise to operate 6 large frigates. Their tenders are always slow, small and take years to conclude with everchanging requirements. Present Istif with Euro equipment for Portugal do make sense. I expect to see 1-2 F110s for commonality with Spanish, and 2-4 other lighter designs to be picked, with very possibly seeing just 2 F110s and cancelling the rest, restarting a light frigate/heavy OPV program instead.
 

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Portugal don't have the money, manpower and expertise to operate 6 large frigates. Their tenders are always slow, small and take years to conclude with everchanging requirements. Present Istif with Euro equipment for Portugal do make sense. I expect to see 1-2 F110s for commonality with Spanish, and 2-4 other lighter designs to be picked, with very possibly seeing just 2 F110s and cancelling the rest, restarting a light frigate/heavy OPV program instead.
With 10.6 million population and 290 billion dollar GDP they are similar to Greece in population and 20% richer in GDP.
I guess their naval security is not amongst their priorities. But being a NATO member country and having to spend 3% to 5% of their GDP on defence, they are “expected” to spend between 10 billion to 14 billion dollars on defence every year.
They do have few good shipyards that build naval vessels. But as you say they are slow and their naval investment program seems a bit anaemic.
It is a shame to see such a once powerful seafaring nation to be in such pitiful state. From late 1500s to late 1600s the Portuguese navy was probably the most powerful navy in the world.
 

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