TR EF Typhoon

[GoatsMilk]

what happens if the british pull an american on us with the jets?

Also isnt the price crazy?

 

[UkroTurk]

Regarding the price, guys you all neglecting today's inflation and future inflation.

Look at the gold prices, usually need to calculate gold/ weapon ratio.

Don't compare ,10 year's ago price with today prices. Nowadays all currencies have lost value.
On the other hand anyone knows how much UK and Qatar paid for them?

Eurofighter Typhoon procurement - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"5 April 2016, Kuwait signed a contract with Leonardo valued at €7.957 billion (US$9.062 billion) for the supply of the 28 aircraft, all to third tranche standard. The Kuwaiti aircraft will be the first Typhoons to receive the Captor-E "

Qatar buys 24 Eurofighter Typhoon jets in £6bn deal

The move will help safeguard thousands of jobs at BAE Systems, mainly at Warton in Lancashire.

www.bbc.com

In 2017:
" Qatar buys 24 Eurofighter Typhoon jets in £6bn deal"

 

[Sanchez]

Regarding the price, guys you all neglecting today's inflation and future inflation.
View attachment 77921
Look at the gold prices, usually need to calculate gold/ weapon ratio.

Don't compare ,10 year's ago price with today prices. Nowadays all currencies have lost value.
On the other hand anyone knows how much UK and Qatar paid for them?

Eurofighter Typhoon procurement - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"5 April 2016, Kuwait signed a contract with Leonardo valued at €7.957 billion (US$9.062 billion) for the supply of the 28 aircraft, all to third tranche standard. The Kuwaiti aircraft will be the first Typhoons to receive the Captor-E "

Qatar buys 24 Eurofighter Typhoon jets in £6bn deal

The move will help safeguard thousands of jobs at BAE Systems, mainly at Warton in Lancashire.

www.bbc.com

In 2017:
" Qatar buys 24 Eurofighter Typhoon jets in £6bn deal"

One could say that Gulf nations are not the best examples, but Italy was presented a bill of up to 8.1 billion USD for 24 Tranche 4s to replace their T1s last year.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/italy-spend-75-bln-euros-new-eurofighter-jets-document-shows-2024-07-08/

 

[Numberone]

Regarding the price, guys you all neglecting today's inflation and future inflation.
View attachment 77921
Look at the gold prices, usually need to calculate gold/ weapon ratio.

Don't compare ,10 year's ago price with today prices. Nowadays all currencies have lost value.
On the other hand anyone knows how much UK and Qatar paid for them?

Eurofighter Typhoon procurement - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"5 April 2016, Kuwait signed a contract with Leonardo valued at €7.957 billion (US$9.062 billion) for the supply of the 28 aircraft, all to third tranche standard. The Kuwaiti aircraft will be the first Typhoons to receive the Captor-E "

Qatar buys 24 Eurofighter Typhoon jets in £6bn deal

The move will help safeguard thousands of jobs at BAE Systems, mainly at Warton in Lancashire.

www.bbc.com

In 2017:
" Qatar buys 24 Eurofighter Typhoon jets in £6bn deal"

exactly

 

[Bmx98]

what happens if the british pull an american on us with the jets?

Also isnt the price crazy?

Theyv would never do that. Rn they're in a tight spot they can't risk loosing one of their most important partners rn.

 

[boredaf]

Theyv would never do that. Rn they're in a tight spot they can't risk loosing one of their most important partners rn.

Brexit fucked over UK's economy so much that I don't expect them to fuck us over either. They need partners and defence contracts usually create long term ties.

Besides, it's UK, they have to counteract the French influence over Europe and Italians and Spanish has to do to same for Mediterranean . France is pushing things with Greece and Southern Cyprus, (even fucked over Ukraine by vetoing ammo purchase from us, remember that?) and supporting Haftar in Libya, others can't allow that and we are the best asset to help them.

 

[UkroTurk]

Could this deal bring other fruits or it would be too much? I mean RR could supply with jet engines Kaan - Kızılelma?

Rolls Royce XG-40

On the engine that became the EJ200 Xg-40 Engine Demonstrates Full Augmented Thrust APRIL 251988 XG-40 Engine Demonstrates Full Augmented Thrust NEW YORK Rolls-Royce’s XG-40 military technology demonstrator engine achieved full augmented thrust earlier this month in tests at the company’s...

www.secretprojects.co.uk

Xg40 father of EJ200 totally belongs to Brits.

 

[mehmed beg]

This is absolutely horrible deal but it is what it is . I would say it will be at least 18bn for 44 aircraft. Probably not much of weapons either.
5, 6 bn of pounds for 20 planes and weapons? I don't think that many weapons and engines come with that. This is probably worse deal then 21bn$ for 40 F16s and 40 kits
At least, Americans offered plenty of the weapons but probably no integration of Turkish weather. I think, Typhoons won't have Turkish weapons either . Obviously, training and maintenance for the new type is understandable.
I hope at least that for initial training, Brits will give their airframes , 2.6 bn £ for support and training?????
I have to give it to the British, they hate Turkey more than anybody, but for the difference of Euro charlatans, they make money.
Oh yes? 700 + millions for those 12 junk c130.
I hope that Turkiye, gives this chunk of money to these for the last time.

 

[harris]

What a big fat sheep
The gulf countries can laugh loudly

 

[begturan]

We are not going to have 40 Kaan by 2030, even in the best case scenario and trying to use Akıncı for a2a combat would be like trying to use bicycle to fight a tank. And Hürjet is trainer first, we don't even know if its light attack version will be ready by then; not that it would matter, it will always be inferior to proper fighters whether 4th gen or 5th.

A common statement from TAI executives and Defense Industry officials is that the first phase targets 20 KAAN (block 10) aircraft, often referred to as 2028 delivery.

This alone guarantees 20. The same sources also mention production ramp-ups ("2 aircraft per month in 2029" or a rapid increase between 2029 and 2030) and TAI's plans to transition to mass production; if this pace is maintained, an additional 20 aircraft (40 total) are possible between 2028 and 2030.

Furthermore, external orders (such as the Indonesian 48-unit agreement) could impact the production schedule. Therefore, 20–40 aircraft is a reasonable short-term range.

TAI exec claims 20 Turkish KAAN fighters to be delivered in 2028 - Breaking Defense

Temel Kotil, TAI's general manager, claimed that the domestically-produced Turkish jet will outperform the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

breakingdefense.com

We seem to be underestimating the Akıncı. After all, this aircraft can stay airborne 24 hours a day, can carry sufficient air-to-air munitions under its fuselage, and has an EW pod and AESA radar. The first aircraft to spot it on radar fires the first shot, and the first aircraft to fire usually shoots down the enemy aircraft.

As for the Hürjets, yes, they are planned as trainers, but in times of urgent need or when we want to sufficiently saturate the air force, we can convert them to a light attack version as a reserve force. Technically, the Hürjet is not much different from the T50.

As Iskander noted, even aircraft from World War II were called into service in the Ukrainia/Russia war. Saturation is a very important parameter in wartime. With proper planning, where air forces act in coordination, each aircraft becomes a force multiplier. The more technology is a deterrent, the more numbers are a deterrent.

 

[Zafer]

A common statement from TAI executives and Defense Industry officials is that the first phase targets 20 KAAN (block 10) aircraft, often referred to as 2028 delivery.

This alone guarantees 20. The same sources also mention production ramp-ups ("2 aircraft per month in 2029" or a rapid increase between 2029 and 2030) and TAI's plans to transition to mass production; if this pace is maintained, an additional 20 aircraft (40 total) are possible between 2028 and 2030.

Furthermore, external orders (such as the Indonesian 48-unit agreement) could impact the production schedule. Therefore, 20–40 aircraft is a reasonable short-term range.

TAI exec claims 20 Turkish KAAN fighters to be delivered in 2028 - Breaking Defense

Temel Kotil, TAI's general manager, claimed that the domestically-produced Turkish jet will outperform the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

breakingdefense.com

We seem to be underestimating the Akıncı. After all, this aircraft can stay airborne 24 hours a day, can carry sufficient air-to-air munitions under its fuselage, and has an EW pod and AESA radar. The first aircraft to spot it on radar fires the first shot, and the first aircraft to fire usually shoots down the enemy aircraft.

As for the Hürjets, yes, they are planned as trainers, but in times of urgent need or when we want to sufficiently saturate the air force, we can convert them to a light attack version as a reserve force. Technically, the Hürjet is not much different from the T50.

As Iskander noted, even aircraft from World War II were called into service in the Ukrainia/Russia war. Saturation is a very important parameter in wartime. With proper planning, where air forces act in coordination, each aircraft becomes a force multiplier. The more technology is a deterrent, the more numbers are a deterrent.

Isn't a Hürjet LCA already planned for 2027, yes it is. Based on this we even offered our Hürjet LCA to Malaysia against the T50 but we were still in development so we lost. If the Malaysians knew that we would progress so rapidly they would probably choose Hürjet instead. We had even started to acclimatize ourselves to the palm oil payment that was part of the tender requirements.

 

[Lool]

A common statement from TAI executives and Defense Industry officials is that the first phase targets 20 KAAN (block 10) aircraft, often referred to as 2028 delivery.

This alone guarantees 20. The same sources also mention production ramp-ups ("2 aircraft per month in 2029" or a rapid increase between 2029 and 2030) and TAI's plans to transition to mass production; if this pace is maintained, an additional 20 aircraft (40 total) are possible between 2028 and 2030.

Furthermore, external orders (such as the Indonesian 48-unit agreement) could impact the production schedule. Therefore, 20–40 aircraft is a reasonable short-term range.

TAI exec claims 20 Turkish KAAN fighters to be delivered in 2028 - Breaking Defense

Temel Kotil, TAI's general manager, claimed that the domestically-produced Turkish jet will outperform the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

breakingdefense.com

Bro, the most recent statements from TAI indicated that KAAN first serial production fighters wont be available except on 2032
Here is the most recent time schedule

🔺️2026- firing of the TEI-TF 10000 and second & third KAAN prototypes running on foreign engines
🔺️2027- fourth and fifth (possibly) KAAN prototype and firing of TEI-TF35000
🔺️2029- delivery of the first domestic TEI TF-35000 to be incorporated into KAAN for testing
🔺️2029 till 2032- testing of the domestic engines on KAAN
🔺️2032- if everything goes smoothly, first KAAN fighters with domestic engines to be supplied to the TAF

The US clearly refused to either give the Turks the rights for developing serial production engines for KAAN or even selling engines made in the US thx to greek and jewish lobbies

Last month, TAI officials clearly said that KAAN will only fly with a domestic engine and that only the prototypes will fly with foreign engines

Thus, I still cant understand how will 20 KAANs will be delivered on 2028, which is 3 years from now, when there is only one prototype available till date. Just look how long the KF-21 test took the koreans till date and yet it still hasnt entered serial production and this is while considering the fact that they have 4-5 prototyoes already

 

[begturan]

Bro, the most recent statements from TAI indicated that KAAN first serial production fighters wont be available except on 2032
Here is the most recent time schedule

🔺️2026- firing of the TEI-TF 10000 and second & third KAAN prototypes running on foreign engines
🔺️2027- fourth and fifth (possibly) KAAN prototype and firing of TEI-TF35000
🔺️2029- delivery of the first domestic TEI TF-35000 to be incorporated into KAAN for testing
🔺️2029 till 2032- testing of the domestic engines on KAAN
🔺️2032- if everything goes smoothly, first KAAN fighters with domestic engines to be supplied to the TAF

The US clearly refused to either give the Turks the rights for developing serial production engines for KAAN or even selling engines made in the US thx to greek and jewish lobbies

Last month, TAI officials clearly said that KAAN will only fly with a domestic engine and that only the prototypes will fly with foreign engines

I missed that part, thanks for the info. I was thinking that once the F404 engines were approved, the F110 engines would probably be sold as well. So, the project has been rescheduled without the F110 engines. Everything depends on the success of the TF35000, then.

 

[Sanchez]

The US clearly refused to either give the Turks the rights for developing serial production engines for KAAN or even selling engines made in the US

No, they haven't.

So, the project has been rescheduled without the F110 engines

So far, no it hasn't.

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