TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

[Strong AI]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/800231235389943808

Whats going on?

Look at the date...

 

[Pokemonte13]

Look at the date...

my bad

 

[BalkanTurk90]

An unlimited number of Kızılelma and Anka3 can shift the balance of air power to our side in 3 years before any new foreign jet can be inducted.

Heavy Electronic attack by enemy and can you still use kizilelma or other drones ! While manned jets are another matter , they still can fly under electronic attack and at least bring jet back home not into the sea or at enemy airbase

 

[boredaf]

An unlimited number of Kızılelma and Anka3 can shift the balance of air power to our side in 3 years before any new foreign jet can be inducted.

In what world do we get "unlimited" number of KE and Anka-3 in 3 years, exactly? Because it is quite literally impossible in this one that we occupy right now.

We don't know how many Ukrainian engines we have now, nor do we know how many we can get over the course of next 3 years. However, we do know that their factory has been bombed multiple times over the course of the war, one being very recently.

We know that TF6000 is still going through ground testing, which is far from over, and then it'll have to go through another set of tests in the air. We also know that TF10000 hasn't been built or at the very least fired yet. After that, it'll have to go through ground tests first, then, it'll have to go through aerial testing.

Erdoğan himself said it probably wouldn't be ready before 2028 for TF6000 a couple of years ago, TEI engineers has said they expected it to start qualification tests by 2028 as well, some time last year. TEI CEO said TF10000 would be started in a few years, just this year.

So, please explain to me, how are we getting "unlimited number of KE and Anka 3" in 3 years, in a logical manner that is based on facts and basic understanding of physical reality.

 

[what]

An unlimited number of Kızılelma and Anka3 can shift the balance of air power to our side in 3 years before any new foreign jet can be inducted.

An unlimited number of ducks can kill a tiger too eventually.
But no such thing as unlimited.

 

[Zafer]

An unlimited number of ducks can kill a tiger too eventually.
But no such thing as unlimited.

When you make the plane yourself you are only bound by how many you want to make. The US made 48.000 planes in a year during WW2. Compared to only a couple hundred a couple thousand is unlimited.

 

[Atilla77]

Notice how outdated the fighter jets involved in the Ukrainian war are: the Su-24, Su-27, MiG-29, and even the Yak-52 trainers and others. Tanks: the T-55, T-62, armored personnel carriers, and infantry fighting vehicles from the 1960s...

Many countries retain even the most obsolete military equipment. The Ukrainians even have a Maxim machine gun from World War I. Anything can come in handy.
Over time, both fighter jets and pilots become obsolete. But they represent a very valuable reserve. In wartime, if 50- or 60-year-old pilots are called up, they will have a hard time retraining on new, more advanced fighters. Therefore, they will have to fly older ones, such as the F-4.

It's better to have 200 obsolete aircraft than 100.
Quantity matters, too.

Agreed. An F-16 shot down an Su-35 in Ukraine and F-16 is an inferior platform to the Eurofighter. Eurofighter may not be 5th gen but its still a top of the line aircraft and superior to the Rafale.

 

[Radko]

Agreed. An F-16 shot down an Su-35 in Ukraine and F-16 is an inferior platform to the Eurofighter. Eurofighter may not be 5th gen but its still a top of the line aircraft and superior to the Rafale.

When did this exactly happen..?

 

[Atilla77]

When did this exactly happen..?

Just learned its unconfirmed. But wasn't denied either and no further information since. Guess we wont know for sure for some time.

Claims Swirl Around Russian Su-35S Flanker Shootdown

Unverified reports suggest that an F-16, and perhaps also a Saab 340 radar plane, were involved in shooting down the Russian Flanker. Unverified reports suggest that an F-16, and perhaps also a Saab 340 radar plane, were involved in shooting down the Russian Flanker.

www.twz.com

 

[UkroTurk]

Agreed. An F-16 shot down an Su-35 in Ukraine and F-16 is an inferior platform to the Eurofighter. Eurofighter may not be 5th gen but its still a top of the line aircraft and superior to the Rafale.

Saab ready to open plant in Ukraine for Gripen fighter jets

Kyiv agrees to buy up to 150 aircraft from the Swedish defence company

www.ft.com

Although Gripen is the weakest , Ukraine is to buy 100-150 Gripens.


Damn, if RR supplied with Jet engines, unlimited production of KE would be possible.

I dunno, I am confused if Turkish fighter weren't twin engined and didn't long combat range, Europeans wouldnt piss off and they could supply with engines?

As I said before, make KE Manned!!! until indigenous engines for Kaan are ready.

 

[King_West]

Saab ready to open plant in Ukraine for Gripen fighter jets

Kyiv agrees to buy up to 150 aircraft from the Swedish defence company

www.ft.com

Although Gripen is the weakest , Ukraine is to buy 100-150 Gripens.


Damn, if RR supplied with Jet engines, unlimited production of KE would be possible.

I dunno, I am confused if Turkish fighter weren't twin engined and didn't long combat range, Europeans wouldnt piss off and they could supply with engines?
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As I said before, make KE Manned!!! until indigenous engines for Kaan are ready.

You can easily make a manned fighter unmanned; but to make an unmanned fighter manned is not realistic at all.