TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

[Era_shield]

F-16 max turn rate 330 -400. knots
MMU max turn rate 600 knots

These are not even units of turn rate.

 

[Nutuk]

While I argued to myself Hurkus on LHD is absurd, things are slowly moving into that direction. First Murat Özpala's tweet, now Ibrahim Sünnetçi

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1633413839717822464

Hürkus II and Hürjet for the navy????

 

[MADDOG]

While I argued to myself Hurkus on LHD is absurd, things are slowly moving into that direction. First Murat Özpala's tweet, now Ibrahim Sünnetçi

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1633413839717822464

Hürkus II and Hürjet for the navy????

Let us wait until the Navy properly materialises their needs. Too early to speak for now.

 

[Nutuk]

Let us wait until the Navy properly materialises their needs. Too early to speak for now.

Agree but some signals are there.

Hurkus II is not for nothing being developed with composite body and navalized. And there you have Murat Özpala tweeting they are seriously trying to make the Hurkus take off from 200m with ski-jump

 

[Ecderha]

Agree but some signals are there.

Hurkus II is not for nothing being developed with composite body and navalized. And there you have Murat Özpala tweeting they are seriously trying to make the Hurkus take off from 200m with ski-jump

Lets think in other perspective.
What about they already did all research and finalized all things in order to start building.
Now in present when High prio Hurjet and TFX prototypes are already ready.
The logical thing is to Reveal next Hurkus II

 

[Nutuk]

Lets think in other perspective.
What about they already did all research and finalized all things in order to start building.
Now in present when High prio Hurjet and TFX prototypes are already ready.
The logical thing is to Reveal next Hurkus II

I don't understand what you are trying to tell, be more clear.

 

[Ecderha]

I don't understand what you are trying to tell, be more clear.

I interpreted you post as that you are in doubt about Hurkus II (naval version).
That is why ask you to have look things in other perspective.

 

[Nutuk]

Personally I have never thought of Hurkus on the LHD. It is not a doubt, but surprise.

Having a turboprop plane from an LHD sounds a bit weird, it's like a giant step back to WW2

 

[Bmx98]

Personally I have never thought of Hurkus on the LHD. It is not a doubt, but surprise.

Having a turboprop plane from an LHD sounds a bit weird, it's like a giant step back to WW2

No it's not, US still deploys many turboprops aircraft from their carriers in different roles, it is a very practical idea.

 

[MADDOG]

All of this depends on the Navy and what they want. What tactics they are trying to employ etc. We can't know for sure. Let's perhaps wait for the unveiling of Hürkuş-2 first. Only then might we get an idea or two.

 

[Sanchez]

No it's not, US still deploys many turboprops aircraft from their carriers in different roles, it is a very practical idea.

US deploys E-2s and C-2s on its carriers. For all of which you need a CATOBAR carrier.

 

[dBSPL]

In light of specs such as maneuverability, angle of attack and speed, I think that an unmanned variant of the Navalized Hürkus may be in demand. Aircraft can take more fuel instead of pilots, cockpit and life support systems. The approach speed to the landing deck would be much lower which may mean less preparation on the deck, and also it could be an aircraft that could increase the sortie/hour capacity of the runway. I am talking somewhere between TB-3 and KE, and if such a platform exists, it can stand out from the other two platforms.

 

[boredaf]

Having a turboprop plane from an LHD sounds a bit weird, it's like a giant step back to WW2

Since Anadolu isn't a real aircraft carrier, instead of thinking Hürkuş-2 on it as something like an F-35B, think of it like faster S-70B with a batter range and a bit better endurance. Could be an interesting choice, but I doubt it'll happen any time soon, if at all.

 

[Nutuk]

As I see our LHD will mostly be of service around Africa (Libya, Somalia etc.). And in such equipped with TB-3, Kizilelma, Hurkus II and perhaps at later stadium a variant of Hurjet ain't that bad at all I recon too.

Our TCG Anadolu has potential to become an interesting ship

 

[dBSPL]

It can be not only combatant, but also usefull for some other purposes. It has a payload capacity of over 1500 kg, a powerplant unit of over 1000kw, the aircraft also has a flight endurance of over 600nm and over 4.2 hours, which you can increase significantly if you remove the cockpit. The TB-3 can provide 12-24 hours of endurance at a lower take-off weight, but such an aircraft can provide higher engine power and speed of deployment, perhaps at a flight endurance of up to 5-8 hours.

The Hürkuş is an aircraft program that has undergone a lot of hard work and has gone through a very difficult path. These efforts must be rewarded. I think that the aircraft should be offered for every possible purpose: training, light attack, manned, unmanned, conventional, ship-based etc.

 

[boredaf]

It can be not only combatant, but also usefull for some other purposes.

We have to accept our own limitations, both economically and in regards to the equipment we have in our hands. We don't have a nuclear powered aircraft carrier from which we can launch full size maritime patrol planes and jet fighters, but, we do have a helicopter carrier that we plan to use with drones and helicopters and maybe Hürkuş-2 can help with that. It also depends on some of the upcoming stuff, imo.

For example, can Orka lwt be launched from a plane? Then, assuming its weight is similar to Mk-54, we can easily put some on Hürkuş. Or can we fire a Çakır missile from it? Hürkuş is supposedly able to use MK82's, Çakır is heavier than that but theoratically (obviously because my understanding is limited to reading stats and making assumptions from my chair lol), it can carry 2 Orkas and 2 Çakırs while still having hard points left for external fuel tanks.

Maybe we'll hear something soon, this news draught can't last much longer. I hope.

 

[MADDOG]

The Sultan of Brunei, Haji Hassanal Bolkiah, visited TAI.

 

[boredaf]

The man who got Michael fucking Jackson to play for his birthday and didn't even attend the concert, can't think of anything else whenever I see him lmao

 

[Ripley]

The man who got Michael fucking Jackson to play for his birthday and didn't even attend the concert, can't think of anything else whenever I see him lmao

@boredaf
Think about it. just yesterday we were discussing possibility of any deals with them and were doing our sales pitch

 

[boredaf]

@boredaf
Think about it. just yesterday we were discussing possibility of any deals with them and were doing our sales pitch

I was thinking about that too lol a country with too much money and not enough people, let's hope he was really impressed with our drones