TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Ryder]

Everybody is giving lots of good points.

Just how this forum should be with everybody sharing their ideas and opinions.

 

[Heartbang]

Man, I just checked where he said that "moocaidin" stuff, and how Israel reacted to it, and I'm certain that it is a move to placate the domestic audience.
Israel state apparatus seems to be aware of that. As for the exchange, lets just say every congregation has it pussycats. As @Bogeyman has said, there are more important things than stonks in life. Get off the Bloomberg terminal and touch grass.

Sweden can use it.

Sweden can SUCK IT. They don't have the cache to lecture us on these matters.

 

[Nilgiri]

Sweden can use it. Israel, Europe, the US and the whole world. They can call the Pkk/Hdp/Ypg mujahideen and freedom fighters.

We are facing a government that is a joke. They are sacrificing the entire population for their own trouble and ideology.

As a Muslim, we need to get rid of all the political Islamist organizations and ideologies in the world. Here, too, the people have a job to do. Not to vote for these organizations and not to support them. Only democratic, secular and just Islamists should remain. This seems to be the salvation of Islam and Muslims.

May Turkiye get an Ataturk v2.0 ASAP. Long overdue to clean house for today's times.

Certain people in this forum have a distaste deep down for Ataturk (though they are mostly careful to hide it), I have seen it and connected the dots why too regd the political-islam/islamism.

When its a non-Turk from whichever muslim country, I kind of get it as Ataturk did the most to define Turkiye independently away from "the ummah".

But there are even Turks here who have certain distaste and even hate for Ataturk. Very ingrateful, destructive people to any country in the end, that psyche. As long as it resides in any real capacity (and that is for Turks in end to determine and rectify), Turkiye will not be heading anywhere good....in fact the opposite. In every real sense for benefit of Turkiye and larger world, this is what I mean by a 2nd Ataturk needed for this century.

 

[Ryder]

May Turkiye get an Ataturk v2.0 ASAP. Long overdue to clean house for today's times.

Certain people in this forum have a distaste deep down for Ataturk (though they are mostly careful to hide it), I have seen it and connected the dots why too regd the political-islam/islamism.

When its a non-Turk from whichever muslim country, I kind of get it as Ataturk did the most to define Turkiye independently away from "the ummah".

But there are even Turks here who have certain distaste and even hate for Ataturk. Very ingrateful, destructive people to any country in the end, that psyche. As long as it resides in any real capacity (and that is for Turks in end to determine and rectify), Turkiye will not be heading anywhere good....in fact the opposite. In every real sense for benefit of Turkiye and larger world, this is what I mean by a 2nd Ataturk needed for this century.

Bro I dont think we need another Ataturk.

Its no different to Turkish Islamists saying we need another Ottoman sultan or another Fatih Sultan Mehmet.

Turkiye needs a proper leader that at least serves the countries interest.

Constantly waiting for another Ataturk or even a Ottoman sultan to come and save us will not do us any good. Dont get me wrong im not against Ataturk or my ancestors from the past we need to look towards the future while not forgetting our past.

They need to start with term limits. Turks have a habit of staying in their comfortable couches.

Erdogan is reaching 70, KK is like 77 and Bahceli is 75. Only thing the Turkish people ever known is these 3 people. People are even sick of them.

 

[Anastasius]

TR doesn’t need a second Ataturk, what it needs is a clever, critically thinking population (which it does possess to an extent) that is able to do their best for the country as a collective and avoid being fooled by malicious leaders. A great leader will not save the country, Ataturk only got like 20 years to try and change the nation, Ataturk 2.0 might get 40 at best.

 

[Ryder]

Hamas tests the limits of Japan's Israel-Palestine policy

Japan is the lone outlier in the Group of Seven, condemning the Hamas attacks but also expressing concern over potential casualties in the Gaza Strip.

www.japantimes.co.jp

Literally Erdogan can learn a thing or too from Japan.

Our ancestors have always been patient but also pragmatic as fck.

Far Eastern patience.

 

[Lool]

What Erdogan is doing is the right thing
I swear reading the posts of the members in this forum acting as if they have a degree in foreign policy relations when we dont even know the basics of what is going on

Israel needs to calm down or a massive world war will begin that even Turkey wont escape from
Erdogan is trying to shore up support for Palestine in order to exert pressure on Israel and Natenyahu since after all, this whole fiasco was orchestrated so that Natenyahu can escape trial and remain the president

I urge every member to watch the video attached below and finalky understand what this conflict is all about and the potential future implications and above all, why Erdogan switched to attacking Israel

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717233312933253437

 

[Ryder]

What Erdogan is doing is the right thing
Israel needs to calm down or a massive world war will begin that even Turkey wont escape from
Erdogan is trying to shore up support for Palestine in order to exert pressure on Israel and Natenyahu since after all, this whole fiasco was orchestrated so that Natenyahu can escape trial and remain the president

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717233312933253437

Gaza will be a quagmire.

Its a pretty big city too. Urban warfare is a nightmare.

In this battle the Gazans could come out on top but they could still lose in the long run.

Israel has air power and lots of soldiers to call upon.

 

[Lool]

Gaza will be a quagmire.

Its a pretty big city too. Urban warfare is a nightmare.

In this battle the Gazans could come out on top but they could still lose in the long run.

Israel has air power and lots of soldiers to call upon.

The Israeli army already knows this fact; moreover, the generals of the IDF dont even know what the objectives of this operation should be since Hamas is more of an ideology than some sort of capitalist corporation..... You cant just "eliminate" Hamas since it will eventually resurface again

The main problem is Natenyahu himself...... he is the one who allowed Hamas to execute its operation on October 7th in order to gain some sort of execuse to postpone his trial and rally public opinion behind him. Now that the die has been played, Natenyahu needs to provide some sort of victory to the Israeli public or he wont only go to jail along with his family but will be remembered as one of the worst leaders in Israel's history

That is why Erdogan supporting Hamas rn and exerting pressure on Israel is the right choice of action. With the Western leaders being bought by Natenyahu, it is up to the middle east to try and shift worldwide public opinion against Natenyahu since Natenyahu wont stop if he sees the world supporting Israel blindly

Some1 need to press on the brakes or many nations will be thrown into the clutches of a massive war just because of some corrupt fool wanting to escape trial

Moreover, Israel completely controlling Palestine and expelling Hamas, will mean that they will solve their internal strife and will concentrate more on "potential" future enemies or those who are stronger than Israel and will do all what it can to break them

It is in Turkey's interest to stop this fiasco rn or the consequences will be severe yet ppl in this forum believe otherwise..... insanity

 

[Ryder]

The Israeli army already knows this fact; moreover, the generals of the IDF dont even know what the objectives of this operation should be since Hamas is more of an ideology than some sort of capitalist corporation..... You cant just "eliminate" Hamas since it will eventually resurface again

The main problem is Natenyahu himself...... he is the one who allowed Hamas to execute its operation on October 7th in order to gain some sort of execuse to postpone his trial and rally public opinion behind him. Now that the die has been played, Natenyahu needs to provide some sort of victory to the Israeli public or he wont only go to jail along with his family but will be remembered as one of the worst leaders in Israel's history

That is why Erdogan supporting Hamas rn and exerting pressure on Israel is the right choice of action. With the Western leaders being bought by Natenyahu, it is up to the middle east to try and shift worldwide public opinion against Natenyahu since Natenyahu wont stop if he sees the world supporting Israel blindly

Some1 need to press on the brakes or many nations will be thrown into the clutches of a massive war just because of some corrupt fool wanting to escape trial

Moreover, Israel completely controlling Palestine and expelling Hamas, will mean that they will solve their internal strife and will concentrate more on "potential" future enemies or those who are stronger than Israel and will do all what it can to break them

It is in Turkey's interest to stop this fiasco rn or the consequences will be severe yet ppl in this forum believe otherwise..... insanity

The problem is Turkiye could deal with another another chaos or refugee problem.

Whatever happens in the Middle East Fire spreads to Turkiye.

At the same time Arabs, Israelis and the Iranians are all rivals and competitors in the Middle East for Turkiye.

We need to play a proper game of chess rather than the usual populist bullcrap.

I do support Palestine and have no love for the Zionists.

Palestinians should not expect us to be superman or the Ottoman Empire.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

How could you hate him? How can anyone who calls themselves a Turk hate him

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717427677487862029

The government and the fake opposition are using this situation for what good? Look at how Ümit Özdağ uses it to defend our operations. The man is a true nationalist.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

"The EU has lost all its credibility on democracy and human rights during the bombing of Gaza. From now on, if you criticize Turkey on counter-terrorism, the response you will get from the Victory Party will be "go to hell." "

- Ümit Özdağ

 

[Anastasius]

What Erdogan is doing is the right thing
I swear reading the posts of the members in this forum acting as if they have a degree in foreign policy relations when we dont even know the basics of what is going on

Israel needs to calm down or a massive world war will begin that even Turkey wont escape from
Erdogan is trying to shore up support for Palestine in order to exert pressure on Israel and Natenyahu since after all, this whole fiasco was orchestrated so that Natenyahu can escape trial and remain the president

I urge every member to watch the video attached below and finalky understand what this conflict is all about and the potential future implications and above all, why Erdogan switched to attacking Israel

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717233312933253437

A world war won't be starting over Palestine and whatever global shift you may perceive in favor of Palestine (I don't see it, I actually see less support for Palestine now) does not change the fact that Hamas are terrorists and the right thing would've been to stay the hell out of this entire mess and not whatever the hell Erdogan just did.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

What Erdogan is doing is the right thing
I swear reading the posts of the members in this forum acting as if they have a degree in foreign policy relations when we dont even know the basics of what is going on

Israel needs to calm down or a massive world war will begin that even Turkey wont escape from
Erdogan is trying to shore up support for Palestine in order to exert pressure on Israel and Natenyahu since after all, this whole fiasco was orchestrated so that Natenyahu can escape trial and remain the president

I urge every member to watch the video attached below and finalky understand what this conflict is all about and the potential future implications and above all, why Erdogan switched to attacking Israel

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717233312933253437

Sorry if this isn't what you wanted to hear but there is no global shift.

Social media, especially Twitter and TikTok, which rely heavily on their algorithm, shows everyone what they want to see. If you're Muslim, you will see things which cater to you.

The "global shift" is just 1.8 billion powerless Muslims posting on social media. There is no global shift on the world stage.

Yes some pro-Israel countries are calling for de-escalation, but that's about it.

 

[Ryder]

There will be no world wars.

But proxy wars will continue. After ww1 and ww2.

Human race realised the consequences of another global war.

Thats why the USA, China and Russia will not go head to head with each other.

Nobody will start a WW over Ukraine, Palestine or Taiwan.

 

[Zafer]

An act against Palestine is an act against Türkiye.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

An act against Palestine is an act against Türkiye.

An act against a nation which rebelled against us is an act against us? An act against a terror group which supports PKK is an act against us?

You're not making sense.

Why should we sacrifice our own soldiers for them? Egypt is next door with a population of over 100 million. There's a bunch of rich gulf states. It's their war.

It's seems like people like yourself pedastalize Arabs because their language is sacred in your religion. You're completely fine with rich gulf Arabs buying property and making it difficult for the average Turk to buy a home. You're also satisfied with having 17 million Arab and south Asian Muslim refugees who rape, kill and steal from Turkish citizens on a daily basis. But that isn't enough. You also want our soldiers to die for them.

 

[Tornadoss]

An act against Palestine is an act against Türkiye.

Palestine is not our issue.

 

[Zafer]

Israel getting outside its envelope is our main concern.

 

[Zafer]

An act against a nation which rebelled against us is an act against us? An act against a terror group which supports PKK is an act against us?

You're not making sense.

Why should we sacrifice our own soldiers for them? Egypt is next door with a population of over 100 million. There's a bunch of rich gulf states. It's their war.

It's seems like people like yourself pedastalize Arabs because their language is sacred in your religion. You're completely fine with rich gulf Arabs buying property and making it difficult for the average Turk to buy a home. You're also satisfied with having 17 million Arab and south Asian Muslim refugees who rape, kill and steal from Turkish citizens on a daily basis. But that isn't enough. You also want our soldiers to die for them.

Palestinians are the natural inhabitants of the land but Turks are the natural hegemons. Israel expanding their influence is Türkiye shrinking its influence. This is a clear picture.