TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Lool]

We need to play a proper game of chess rather than the usual populist bullcrap.

Exactly
Just look at Erdo's statements a week ago in which he openly criticised Hamas but now he is doing the opposite

The only difference between now and then is the fact that Israel amassed massive Western backing to justify its excursion into Gaza.

That is why Erdo is now shifting the rhetoric to be against Israel; Turkey isnt ready for another wave of refugees and isnt ready to be the primary target for Israel after it fully incorporates every inch of Palestinian lands into Israeli state

 

[Anastasius]

Exactly
Just look at Erdo's statements a week ago in which he openly criticised Hamas but now he is doing the opposite

The only difference between now and then is the fact that Israel amassed massive Western backing to justify its excursion into Gaza.

That is why Erdo is now shifting the rhetoric to be against Israel; Turkey isnt ready for another wave of refugees and isnt ready to be the primary target for Israel after it fully incorporates every inch of Palestinian lands into Israeli state

Turkey could just, y'know...not allow any more refugees into the country and throw out anyone who sneaks in if it's such a massive problem. You don't have to let in everyone that asks to be let in, the word "No" exists for a reason.

 

[Ryder]

There will be no world wars.

But proxy wars will continue. After ww1 and ww2.

Human race realised the consequences of another global war.

Thats why the USA, China and Russia will not go head to head with each other.

Nobody will start a WW over Ukraine, Palestine or Taiwan.

 

[GoatsMilk]

folks this is what green generation look likes. hizb ut tahrir programmed them to forsake the interest of Turks and sacrifice everything for the sake of Palestinians. this is how hizb ut tahrir overthrow Shah of Iran during islamic revolution. this is their strategy to raise a green generation in each Muslim country and then use that generation to take over that country and use its resources for the sake of Palestine while the rich Arab countries watch whole thing from afar . these are the pawns of foreign powers to use turkey for their interests

when you meet them ask these questions from them

1) are you a member of Tarikat ?

2) are you a member of Pelikan Group or do you work with Pelikan Group ?

Pelikan (organization) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

3) are you a member of Gelecek Party or follower ahmet davutoglu's ideology

when you see how political islamists works its very similar to how marxists works. Marx called it "cultural contamination". You brainwash the fools from an early age and forever they become the useful idiots and their kids follow in their footsteps. Eventually these useful idiots enter the state and replace the older generations. These politically active tarikat members in essence are the marxist enemies of the republic.

In general this sort of brainwashing works predominantly on two groups the people of considerable low intelligence and the intellectual who lacks wisdom but sees himself more intelligent then everyone else. Eventually when the marxist state is achieved, the intellectuals are all rounded up and executed by the state, because they become disillusioned with what they believed and the reality and naturally would become the biggest opposers to that state so the state removes them.

This is important because many political islamists should the agenda succeed will be the first ones to be rounded up and removed by the said state. Just like the FETO boys when the brought erdogan to power, soon after erdogan had many of them rounded up or chased out of the country. This is how it always works with marxist hellholes.

Also your posts that expose directly the shills and charlateans within the Turkish government and media are refreshing, never give up on it. Eventually the truth will set us free.

The truth is "political Islam" is just marxism for Muslims. Its basically the white mans trick to get marxism into Muslim majority nations.

 

[Lool]

Sweden can use it. Israel, Europe, the US and the whole world. They can call the Pkk/Hdp/Ypg mujahideen and freedom fighters.

We are facing a government that is a joke. They are sacrificing the entire population for their own trouble and ideology.

As a Muslim, we need to get rid of all the political Islamist organizations and ideologies in the world. Here, too, the people have a job to do. Not to vote for these organizations and not to support them. Only democratic, secular and just Islamists should remain. This seems to be the salvation of Islam and Muslims.

Secularism is good on paper but is impossible to achieve in reality. Even those Europeans who regards themselves as the most secular, do nothing but shape their countries' policy around their religious beliefs such as the bible

This is a video about how US congressmen shapes their foreign policy regarding their teachings in the bible. This comes from the nation that regards itself as the most secular nation on earth

The idea of secularism while good on paper, is just way too impossible to follow
You cant have a nation completely devoid of religious beliefs no matter what their origins are

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717428578365669787

 

[Ryder]

Honestly if I was Palestinian I would be more angry at their Arab brothers who lost numerous wars against Israel.

Palestinians are suffering the consequences of their defeat.

East Turkistan I cant say more honestly. China will be assmiliating them within 100 years.

Central Asian Turkic states are in bed with China.

Somebody should ask them why havent they dont nothing rather than throwing mud at Turkiye. Why does everybody expect Turkiye to save everybody?

 

[GoatsMilk]

May Turkiye get an Ataturk v2.0 ASAP. Long overdue to clean house for today's times.

Certain people in this forum have a distaste deep down for Ataturk (though they are mostly careful to hide it), I have seen it and connected the dots why too regd the political-islam/islamism.

When its a non-Turk from whichever muslim country, I kind of get it as Ataturk did the most to define Turkiye independently away from "the ummah".

But there are even Turks here who have certain distaste and even hate for Ataturk. Very ingrateful, destructive people to any country in the end, that psyche. As long as it resides in any real capacity (and that is for Turks in end to determine and rectify), Turkiye will not be heading anywhere good....in fact the opposite. In every real sense for benefit of Turkiye and larger world, this is what I mean by a 2nd Ataturk needed for this century.

A certain proportion of Turkish citizens are not ethnically Turks, they are something else. Most AK party members hate Ataturk, most of them come from minority groups. For example erdogan is Georgian, Hakan Fidan is Kurdish and Seljuk Bayraktar is Cicassian. If you pay attention to Baykar they pay no respects whatsoever to Ataturk. No portraits of him, no mentions of him etc. They all have a deep hatred and distaste for Turks and Turkish history. They have to hide it to a certain degree, but islam allows them to beat Turks over the head with their bitterness for our history and culture.

For example you will find Turkish Kurds/Arabs/Albanians/Cisccasians/Armenians who despise Ataturk, they can't do it openly because naturally Ataturk is cherished by the common Turk, but they will do it in every indirect way they can. And the best way they have found to do it is to hide behind the religion.

So when you see distaste on this forum, understand that most likely you are dealing with a Turkish citizen who isn't ethnically a Turk and doesn't identify as a Turk. A bit like you have british citizens here who despise British historic figures and its mainly because they don't identify as English.

I know many Turkish Kurds here in England who all hate Ataturk, they talk openly here because they can. But they would never do it in Turkiye in the streets of Istanbul.

flooding the country with mena types is a long play by the political islamists to attack and destroy the Turkish character of the nation. If they can make Turks the minority they can via democracy completely unravel the Turkish state. Their relentless attacks on the constitution is towards these aims too.

We have been hijacked by what were originally just american vassels.

 

[Zafer]

LMAO, another keyboard Mujaheedin sitting in his warm and cozy home demanding that Turkish soldiers sacrifice their lives for others on the battlefield. Why don't you go to Gazza and fight? I would glady pay your flight ticket.

What the reaction to the action is a matter to think about but we did not rule the land being cowards. The enemy attacks you once he sees you are a coward. The enemy retreats when they see that you stand your ground and make the enemy a loser.

 

[CAN_TR]

What the reaction to the action is a matter to think about but we did not rule the land being cowards. The enemy attacks you once he sees you are a coward. The enemy retreats when they see that you stand your ground and make the enemy a loser.

That's why i want to buy you a ticket, go make the enemy a loser.

 

[Zafer]

That's why i want to buy you a ticket, go make the enemy a loser.

I will buy you a ticket to my ignore bin.

 

[Asena_great]

I will buy you a ticket to my ignore bin.

just go to Gaza, you can help your din qardaşlari more in gaza then here in turkey.

if you go

1) Palestinians would be happy

2) you will be happy helping your din qrdaşlari

3) we will be happy and wish a good luck

ill pay for your flight ticket as a bonus

 

[Bozan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717527457287254432

Hah

 

[Barry]

What the reaction to the action is a matter to think about but we did not rule the land being cowards. The enemy attacks you once he sees you are a coward. The enemy retreats when they see that you stand your ground and make the enemy a loser.

That's a good point. If the Muslims of the middle east weren't cowards, they wouldn't have seen the breadth of attack, murder and occupation by white men half a planet away since the ottomans fell.

/s

 

[Xenon54]

I actually suspect most political islamists away from the cameras shit on the religion and laugh at it and its zombie like adherents.

You still suspect? I am way beyond that point.

 

[Xenon54]

The Turkish Republic is transforming into a mongrel Refugeestan with the blessing of the Goverment, not one sane country and goverment would do that but ours are a special case i don't know why the're caring more for the security of others (EU) than our own peoples, caring more for refugees (no taxes countless social benefits) than our people (taxed to death).

And then those same people act like they are the only Patriots and Nationalist, lmao.

Read your signature, thats what happened to Turkish nation, its in a deep slumber.

Get off the Bloomberg terminal and touch grass.

I cant, gas prices keep increasing, its cheaper to stay at home.

 

[Baryshx]

Secularism is good on paper but is impossible to achieve in reality. Even those Europeans who regards themselves as the most secular, do nothing but shape their countries' policy around their religious beliefs such as the bible

This is a video about how US congressmen shapes their foreign policy regarding their teachings in the bible. This comes from the nation that regards itself as the most secular nation on earth

The idea of secularism while good on paper, is just way too impossible to follow
You cant have a nation completely devoid of religious beliefs no matter what their origins are

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717428578365669787

Secularism is not irreligion. It is not throwing away holy books.

Secularism means to disable those who want to oppress and use force in the name of religion.

 

[Xenon54]

Secularism is not irreligion. It is not throwing away holy books.

Secularism means to disable those who want to oppress and use force in the name of religion.

Its simply separation between politics and religion.
If you want to know the true oppressor then just see who is against secularism.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Secularism is not irreligion. It is not throwing away holy books.

Secularism means to disable those who want to oppress and use force in the name of religion.

Almost there ; but not quite .

Secularism is the principle of seeking to conduct human affairs based on naturalistic considerations, uninvolved with religion hence segregating matters of religion from matters of state.

Secularism safeguards freedom of religion or belief and ensures that the government does not favour any particular religion or impose religion on its citizens.

 

[Barry]

always mad reading about Muslims hating Ataturk. The man's success guaranteed the lives and existence of Muslims in Asia Minor whilst under the threat of complete annihilation by invading Christian states.

Without Ataturk, would there even be any Muslims left in Anatolia, less a SECULAR state that guaranteed their freedom of and from religion? Must be snorting that Arab nationalism straight from the survival scrolls. Couldn't be me.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

always mad reading about Muslims hating Ataturk. The man's success guaranteed the lives and existence of Muslims in Asia Minor whilst under the threat of complete annihilation by invading Christian states.

Without Ataturk, would there even be any Muslims left in Anatolia, less a SECULAR state that guaranteed their freedom of and from religion? Must be snorting that Arab nationalism straight from the survival scrolls. Couldn't be me.

Those who are mad about Atatürk, are the kids of the bastards that Atatürk didn't kill back in the day. They are in no way or form a Turk!