TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Strong AI]

"The Bill on the Approval of the Protocol Concerning Sweden's Accession to the North Atlantic Treaty (NATO) was accepted by the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Turkish Grand National Assembly.
While AKP, MHP and CHP voted yes to the proposal, İYİ voted no. DEM did not participate in the voting."

 

[Sanchez]

Sweden into NATO, F-35s to Greece and F-16s to Turkey, if we act like a good boy.

 

[Bozan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1739662520854491629

No crime will be charged

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1739688379036426305

Lol

 

[Sanchez]

He said this after an opposition pm's question on why won't Turkey push for F-35s instead of F-16s for approving Sweden's NATO bid. This has to be theater right?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1739714607994802488

 

[what]

He said this after an opposition pm's question on why won't Turkey push for F-35s instead of F-16s for approving Sweden's NATO bid. This has to be theater right?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1739714607994802488

This has been the narrative in you know which media for a while.
We cant have these toys, so instead of dealing with our own failures we find something else to shift blame.

Whether thats Turkish football and always blaming the referee or politics.

What we really need as a country is a change in mentality and accountability.

 

[Lool]

I still cant comprehend why you ppl cant realise that the F35 is a failed project?

How many nations have grounded their entire F35 fleets numerous times due to malfunctions and cost difficulties? Nations like South Korea and USA have already grounded their F35s fleets multiple times due to such issues.

South Korea among multiple nations complained b4 on how the F35 operational expenses are through the roof and the repair prices due to constant malfunctioning are just staggering particularly due to the fact that all critical tech in the F35 must be repaired in the US; thus, the US charges a massive premium. With the F35 being a tech beast, even the smallest malfunction may force its buyer to pay that premium for the US to fix

A weapon doesnt only need to be stealthy to be effective for gods sake! A weapon needs to be effecient, effective, mobile, easy to use, easy to obtain, and universally usable to be extremely effective! With the F35, many such factors havent yet been answered with nations binge buying the product due to US propaganda like fools. This is why weapons like the F16 and AK-47 rifle are still being used to date in huge quantities

Just imagine if Turkey possesses a squadron of F35 jets rn, how many times will Turkey beg for the US to repair the jets after each sortie? And how much will the US get in return (aside from money)? F35s would have sucked the Turkish Air Force budget dry just to be operational and still wouldnt be the playmaker in any sort of warfare whatsoever

 

[Bozan]

I don't know what else to do but laugh. How does this conceivably happen.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

I still cant comprehend why you ppl cant realise that the F35 is a failed project?

How many nations have grounded their entire F35 fleets numerous times due to malfunctions and cost difficulties? Nations like South Korea and USA have already grounded their F35s fleets multiple times due to such issues.

South Korea among multiple nations complained b4 on how the F35 operational expenses are through the roof and the repair prices due to constant malfunctioning are just staggering particularly due to the fact that all critical tech in the F35 must be repaired in the US; thus, the US charges a massive premium. With the F35 being a tech beast, even the smallest malfunction may force its buyer to pay that premium for the US to fix

A weapon doesnt only need to be stealthy to be effective for gods sake! A weapon needs to be effecient, effective, mobile, easy to use, easy to obtain, and universally usable to be extremely effective! With the F35, many such factors havent yet been answered with nations binge buying the product due to US propaganda like fools. This is why weapons like the F16 and AK-47 rifle are still being used to date in huge quantities

Just imagine if Turkey possesses a squadron of F35 jets rn, how many times will Turkey beg for the US to repair the jets after each sortie? And how much will the US get in return (aside from money)? F35s would have sucked the Turkish Air Force budget dry just to be operational and still wouldnt be the playmaker in any sort of warfare whatsoever

The problem with the F-35 is that from the get go they wanted a Jack-of-all-trades fighter and are expecting too much of it which was a mistake in the first place.
It's still a technological marvel and its performance is improving as it goes but the costs are too high, especially when some crash and malfunction.
Economically and budget wise probably a disaster but calling it a failed project is a bit of a stretch.

The best positive thing that came out of not getting the F-35 is that you can't use it without consulting with the US which would make it a mere deterrent.
Many pilots are criticising the plane but many others love it which is the case with any fighter or vehicle even.

The other positive thing to get out of this is that it pushed us even further to pursue our own home made marvel.

I love the F-35 but I would like us to use them independently and on our own terms which wouldn't have been possible anyway...

 

[Ryder]

I still cant comprehend why you ppl cant realise that the F35 is a failed project?

How many nations have grounded their entire F35 fleets numerous times due to malfunctions and cost difficulties? Nations like South Korea and USA have already grounded their F35s fleets multiple times due to such issues.

South Korea among multiple nations complained b4 on how the F35 operational expenses are through the roof and the repair prices due to constant malfunctioning are just staggering particularly due to the fact that all critical tech in the F35 must be repaired in the US; thus, the US charges a massive premium. With the F35 being a tech beast, even the smallest malfunction may force its buyer to pay that premium for the US to fix

A weapon doesnt only need to be stealthy to be effective for gods sake! A weapon needs to be effecient, effective, mobile, easy to use, easy to obtain, and universally usable to be extremely effective! With the F35, many such factors havent yet been answered with nations binge buying the product due to US propaganda like fools. This is why weapons like the F16 and AK-47 rifle are still being used to date in huge quantities

Just imagine if Turkey possesses a squadron of F35 jets rn, how many times will Turkey beg for the US to repair the jets after each sortie? And how much will the US get in return (aside from money)? F35s would have sucked the Turkish Air Force budget dry just to be operational and still wouldnt be the playmaker in any sort of warfare whatsoever

Passing up the F35 is like passing up the most Fastest and the most advanced Ferrari.

The government are all idiots good on them.

Im no F35 fanboy but passing up a jet that is so advanced is just fcking suicide.

 

[Fatman17]

Turkish parliament’s foreign affairs commission approves Sweden’s NATO bid

Approval clears another hurdle in Sweden’s accession process to the bloc in wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[GoatsMilk]

This has been the narrative in you know which media for a while.
We cant have these toys, so instead of dealing with our own failures we find something else to shift blame.

Whether thats Turkish football and always blaming the referee or politics.

What we really need as a country is a change in mentality and accountability.

One thing about the Gaza war breaking out was learning about Hamas. Finding out how the Isrealis helped support/finance it because they quite rightly believed that politically islamist minded entities are so incredibly dumb, incompetent and easy to fool, that if they are to have a Palestinian enemy make sure its political islamists. Secular, western inspired governments are too competent and too dangerous to have as a foe. Better get the fanatics in, whose only education is from the mosque and what the imam brainwashes them to believe, no questions asked. These people drown their nations in economic failure and social regression.

This government has predominantly been a failure. For years they used to cover up all this failure pointing to the economy. Now the smoke and mirrors economy they created is revealed to also be a total failure, you kind of realise that Turkey is exactly where she belongs. If that's what they vote for and support, well accept second/third class status in the world. They won't achieve anything else.

 

[Marquis de Sade]

F35 is a failed project and a (non)-flying maintenance cash-cow. Its maybe the biggest cash cow of the US MIC.

There are falling more F35 out the sky than birds around a windmill.

 

[GoatsMilk]

F35 is a failed project and a (non)-flying maintenance cash-cow. Its maybe the biggest cash cow of the US MIC.

There are falling more F35 out the sky than birds around a windmill.

i suspect if it were as bad as some people make out, the Americans would have done everything to sell us a thousand of them instead of restricting them to us.

 

[mehmed beg]

I don't follow much this F35 saga , nor I follow that project.
2 thing I know.
One is that the director of Havelsn was told bluntly by the Americans " We aren't selling you the planes but the sorties"
Second, according to the air force stuff of the country that operates F35 , the fleet can stay operational without support for about 3 to 4 months.
Now , I don't know how people feel about this but myself I wouldn't be even sure what those "sorties " mean.
Another thing, as I can see, how high tech weapons sale goes in Europe, I kinda feel that USA , Britain and Israel want to relegate the European arms companies to the statuses of mear second level subcontractors. Even that as keep up appearances.

 

[Sanchez]

Let's continue from here please

Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

That is just small part of the larger issue. The larger issue is the extremely high price of US labour exacerbated by over-unionization and ever increasing corruption within them.....(like most ridiculous levels past what unions were originally reasonably made to protect). Its all exact same way...

defencehub.live

 

[Afif]

@Rooxbar you are gonna love this.

 

[Bozan]

As it's becoming a foreign policy issue,

Everyone who paid a $200 dollar visa for the football match, money gone. Saudia Arabia wants compensation for the match and tore up the contract of ~100m for Turkish football clubs that are already currently in debt.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1740797873359647025

Turkish citizens who spoke in favour or insulted Saudi Arabia while working with them are having contracts torn up:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1741054468668506359

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1741076963387740522

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1740814038781804605

 

[mehmed beg]

What exactly is becoming Foreign Policy issue?

 

[Bozan]

What exactly is becoming Foreign Policy issue?

That the foreign minister still hasn't made a statement over the fact that a deal negotiates by Erdogan has fallen through and Saudia Arabia wants 40 million dollars for the breach of contract

 

[Sanchez]

Tamra|| Urgent: Turkey begins to remedy the matter and launches a massive arrest campaign against people who published criminal threats and offensive publications that harm relations with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

-: The Turkish Minister of Justice directs the opening of an investigation against those who shared criminal posts on some social media accounts regarding the postponement of the Turkish Super Cup final, and the necessary legal procedures against the identified suspects are still continuing.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1741089392947519817

Letting murderers to be trialed by them wasn't enough, Saudis will now create their own lists for Turkish people to be trialed for what they wrote. This reads more and more similar to müstemleke period when we were under invasion by the British. Thanks Erdogan, you really showed them.