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Islamists will attack their own brothers azeris just to make their ummah masters happy this is my take.

Islamists and ummah supporters have no sense of nationalism most of them were either ex rum or ex armenians who were converted to Islam they have a big hatred against turks to the point where they support illegal arabs,pakistanis and other immigrants and attack on turks for not wanting them.

If we look at Islamists they speak a very diffrent ottoman style turkish they use lots of farsi and arabic word, while calling turkish a fake language.

These people are a big threat that has to be prosecuted for our future, people who put others on front of turks shouldn't be left comfortable inside this land that was founded by Turkic rulers.

Lots of islamists were supporting armenia because azerbaijan was on the side of israel.

If an armenian becomes muslim, islamists will support them against azeris.

One thing i learned about "political islamists" is that is entirely racist and only racist against Turks. You can be a pakistani, an arab, a iranian, but when you identify as a Turk they hate it.

When you consider 90% of Islamic empires were created Turks and 95% of all the fighting between the Christians and Muslims was by Turkish armies, its a funny thing for "political islamists" to be against Turks. But then again this islam we have spread by the saudis is white man owned.

The white man knows that the Turk is the real danger to their games. No Turk, no threat to white hegemony.
 

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Then this must be something else and not PKK specific re how they view things. Maybe a new designation.

Japan was one of the parties of the treaty of Sevres.

Cant be trusted really. Far Eastern politics has always been quiet rather than loud mouth populist bullcrap.

We shouldnt trust China, Japan and SK. Always keep an arms length.
 

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Islamists will attack their own brothers azeris just to make their ummah masters happy this is my take.

Islamists and ummah supporters have no sense of nationalism most of them were either ex rum or ex armenians who were converted to Islam they have a big hatred against turks to the point where they support illegal arabs,pakistanis and other immigrants and attack on turks for not wanting them.

If we look at Islamists they speak a very diffrent ottoman style turkish they use lots of farsi and arabic word, while calling turkish a fake language.

These people are a big threat that has to be prosecuted for our future, people who put others on front of turks shouldn't be left comfortable inside this land that was founded by Turkic rulers.

Lots of islamists were supporting armenia because azerbaijan was on the side of israel.

If an armenian becomes muslim, islamists will support them against azeris.

Turkish Islamists speak Turkish just like everybody.

Nobody speaks Ottoman Turkish as it is extinct and evolved into modern Turkish.

Ottoman Turkish mainly a language learned by historians who want to read ottoman historical archives or people who enjoy being polygots.

Its all larp if they claim they can speak Osmanli Turkcesi.
 
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Japan was one of the parties of the treaty of Sevres.

Cant be trusted really. Far Eastern politics has always been quiet rather than loud mouth populist bullcrap.

We shouldnt trust China, Japan and SK. Always keep an arms length.
Near everyone was part of the Sevres, Japan was allied with UK and France in the war.
 

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Near everyone was part of the Sevres, Japan was allied with UK and France in the war.

Still a main signatory.

UK, France, Italy and Japan were the main signatories.

USA withdrew due to its isolation policies.
 

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Japan Intelligence Service removed PKK, Taliban and Hamas from the list of terrorist organizations.


I have a feeling this is related to Fahrettin Altun's operations.

A member of the Japanese government talked about public opinion manipulation by Turkey and this might be a method of self defence. The Kurdish community in Japan is mostly from Turkey in the 80's and 90's and most cite persecution as the reason for asylum. Thus most are likely pro-PKK. It seems Fahrettin was trying to pressure the Japanese government on reducing the visibility of this community (reduce their gatherings, social media posts etc) through social media bots and manipulation. Japan may have removed the designation in retaliation for the this pressure on their government. If they are not terrorists as viewed by Japan, the pressure is far less.


The member of Japanese government here cites Turkish manipulation in other countries directly.

That is, if the Japanese actually did remove the PKK from this list and it's not some new reduced designation.

This is my conspiracy theory
 

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Henry Kissinger passed away at 100.

I dont want to go offtopic.

But should his realpolitik and his doctrine be studied and maybe applied in Turkish foreign policy?

The man left a polarising legacy but cant deny his cunning genius when conducting geopolitics.
 

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I have a feeling this is related to Fahrettin Altun's operations.

A member of the Japanese government talked about public opinion manipulation by Turkey and this might be a method of self defence. The Kurdish community in Japan is mostly from Turkey in the 80's and 90's and most cite persecution as the reason for asylum. Thus most are likely pro-PKK. It seems Fahrettin was trying to pressure the Japanese government on reducing the visibility of this community (reduce their gatherings, social media posts etc) through social media bots and manipulation. Japan may have removed the designation in retaliation for the this pressure on their government. If they are not terrorists as viewed by Japan, the pressure is far less.


The member of Japanese government here cites Turkish manipulation in other countries directly.

That is, if the Japanese actually did remove the PKK from this list and it's not some new reduced designation.

This is my conspiracy theory
Well according to the same list Japan delisted Hamas, the Taliban and various ISIS offshots as well. Doesnt really seem likely.
 

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Well according to the same list Japan delisted Hamas, the Taliban and various ISIS offshots as well. Doesnt really seem likely.
Türkiye does not see them as a terrorist organization either. It will come to what I said, most of the countries of the world will remove the PKK from their terror lists. Because of these ridiculous actions of our Arab government.
 

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Well according to the same list Japan delisted Hamas, the Taliban and various ISIS offshots as well. Doesnt really seem likely.

Maybe because Taliban are a government, Hamas delisted to help ceasefire/peace negotiations. ISIS only exist in Africa.

Otherwise I have no idea what the thinking is
 

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Another factor on why Turkiye got its F35s taken away.

So the Chosenites can be the top dog in the Middle East. Dont forget how they bitched and whined when Turkiye got its first F35 delivered.
 

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Mazloum Abdi has told U.S. reps that they should not count on him if they expand the war to confront Iranian-backed militias in Syria and Iraq. If he's telling the truth (I doubt it), he must not be long for this world as the head of Syrian PKK, or may be the plan is to keep that organization safe and away from Iran's targeting, in case of clashes. Well they have bases inside Iran anyway, if Iran doesn't see them as a threat to itself, they are very happy to use it as a trump card against Turkey. It's very hard to develop a plan in juggling all of these possibilities.


My thesis that U.S. is preparing for a full-on war with Iran (despite most analysts thinking the opposite as they see the dem admin actually accommodating Iran based on superficial evidence), can be partially refuted if they stop Israel from making this a long-term thing and don't extend and elevate the level of engagement with Houthis, and militias in Syria (I say "partially", because if they don't do it now, they can always come back and do it later; so to fully refute it we have to see concrete steps by U.S. for rapprochement through JCPOA. As what I see is the exact opposite in U.S. abandoning JCPOA, I count this as an evidence for my hypothesis, based on the fact that a nuclear Iran will not be tolerated {since the risks of spillage with a nuclear Iran is real and unsustainable, unlike NK}, and on the other hand without JCPOA Iran will have no choice but to develop nuclear weapon). Since for U.S. and Israel to safely engage with Iran they have to clear its proxies first, this means moves against this goal will weaken my hypothesis, and naturally moves in keeping with this goal will strengthen it.

U.S. state department has opted to manifest a picture of what opinion on this matter (extending the war & carte blanche for Israel to continue) inside its halls are, as discordant and hesitant. But you never know if that's propaganda or real leaks. But sometimes the discord is real until an order to the contrary comes from some place else. I'd love to know where that some place is which can stifle any kind of discord so fast. Like how they have been avoiding the word "ceasefire" like the plague in a very wide geography. Would love to see how that's coordinated and where the actual decisions are made, or if it's only signalled from a central committee and everybody else recognizes the signals and conforms organically.
 
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