TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Iskander]

"when we are successful and we will be."

Turkish President Abdullah Gül said: "I don't think you can control all the world from one centre. There are big nations. There are huge populations. There is unbelievable economic development in some parts of the world. So what we have to do is, instead of unilateral actions, act all together, make common decisions and have consultations with the world. A new world order, if I can say it, should emerge."

Abdullah Gul. AK party and the rulers of Turkiye know the game.

Two camps, those who believe the new world order should be ruled from a central authority like the UN. The other camp who believes it should be ruled from various centres.

The democrats are for one centre, the authoritarians are for power centres. So when the image shows Trump, Putin, chinese dude, erdogan, its the side who believes the "new world order" should have various centres of control.

But know this Muslims, this agenda is anti-Islamic, anti-Allah.

All possible new centers of power will most likely be anti-Islamic.
In general, everyone will be against everyone.
The question is whether the Turkic and/or Muslim countries will be able to create a separate Center of Power. If not, then everything could be very sad for us.

 

[TR_123456]

All possible new centers of power will most likely be anti-Islamic.
In general, everyone will be against everyone.
The question is whether the Turkic and/or Muslim countries will be able to create a separate Center of Power. If not, then everything could be very sad for us.

Religion,race based unions have no future,it should be nation based.
The Turkic Union if the intention is to build a centre of power should also include non Turkic countries.
Asian,African even South American to have a chance of succes.
If Pakistan is included you have an Ocean,Malaysia(mixed people) is another Ocean,Venezuela would be another good addition(not about Maduro).
Start with Senegal/Ethopia in Africa.

 

[GoatsMilk]

All possible new centers of power will most likely be anti-Islamic.
In general, everyone will be against everyone.
The question is whether the Turkic and/or Muslim countries will be able to create a separate Center of Power. If not, then everything could be very sad for us.

ultimately its about survival.

Race and Religion is still critical. Look at Europe, on the one hand they got no issues flooding their continent with cheap African and Asian labour. Their white man owned media will even propagandise relentlessly about mixed race couples, cultures etc. Everything on TV today and in the magazines for example is "multicultural" meaning every box is ticked, Africans, Asians, Indians, Mixed race people are constantly represented. So much so that its become somewhat of a meme. They are effectively pushing for the mixing of their own peoples.

Yet the identity of the bloc still very much revolves around a common White Christian identity. Even as much of Europe becomes less and less white with each passing decade, even as Europe becomes less and less religious with each passing decade. Yet race and religion is a powerful tool to create a union around. Still a powerful tool for them to create an enemy around too.

For example plenty of Greeks are dark skinned, many of them look like middle easterners, yet when you see them talk in EU parliament or elsewhere in order to attack the Turks they cultivate the identity of common white christian Europe in which they are on the frontlines in keeping out the middle eastern muslim savage. Just look at how the dark skinned kurds at the polish border were portrayed as. Middle eastern savages trying to invade white Europe.

So as Turks in the same way race and religion is used against us, we should have no issues using it to our benefit. But like all things you either cultivate it your advantage or it can equally be used against you. What you cannot do is ignore it.

If Turkic people unite, the rest will easily fall into place. But if the Turks cannot unite we are fooling ourselves that we can unite with other non-Turkic peoples. Its a bit like when i point out how Muslim Arabs cannot even unite with each other, how can Muslims expect the Muslim world to unite. Its a step by step process. For the Turks its critical they unite first before anything else can take place.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

https://defence-blog.com/trump-shuts-down-us-base-in-greece/

U.S. President Donald Trump has reportedly ordered the shutdown of the U.S. military base in Alexandroupoli, Greece, according to Greek newspaper Dimokratia.

The decision marked a shift in U.S. military strategy in the region and raised concerns among Greek officials.

The base in Alexandroupoli has been a key logistical hub for U.S. and NATO operations in southeastern Europe. Its presence had been a point of contention, particularly with Turkey, which has long opposed U.S. military operations in the region.


According to Greek media, Trump’s decision to dismantle the military presence in Alexandroupoli came after a joint request from Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

As noted by the Greek newspaper, if confirmed, the move represents a diplomatic concession that could alter the balance of power in the Eastern Mediterranean.

Greek press reports highlight that the closure is seen as a strategic loss for Greece, which has strengthened military ties with the U.S. in recent years. The Alexandroupoli base played a role in regional security and military logistics, particularly in supporting NATO’s presence in Eastern Europe.

The Trump administration has yet to officially comment on the reports, and it remains unclear whether the decision will be permanent or part of a broader realignment of U.S. military assets.

 

[Lool]

I love Hakan Fidan tbh
I feel that he is someone who knows the game quite well; nothing less to be expected from the previous leader of MIT
All his statements from the beginning of the year were just spot on tbh

This is his recent statements as to why Turkey isnt joining the EU

Translation:
The European Union does not want a large Muslim country within itself. Membership negotiations are frozen at one point. No one says this openly, but this is the situation.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1894049740926460344

 

[Lool]

https://defence-blog.com/trump-shuts-down-us-base-in-greece/

A joke by the US and a gesture that belongs to the trash can
The US has 5 or more bases within Greece which is a small nation in the first place
It wouldnt matter if they closed one of them

 

[Corvus]

It wouldnt matter if they closed one of them

No, it matters a lot.

The base in Dedeağaç is pivotal for the American plan to reach Black Sea through a land corridor -from Greece to Bulgaria and Romania- thus bypassing Türkiye.

Closure of this base is amazing news for us.

 

[Iskander]

No, it matters a lot.

The base in Dedeağaç is pivotal for the American plan to reach Black Sea through a land corridor -from Greece to Bulgaria and Romania- thus bypassing Türkiye.

Closure of this base is amazing news for us.

If the Americans really leave this base, it will turn out that they really will stop helping Ukraine. In this case, there is a high probability that they will also leave Syria and Iraq. Even under Obama, talk began about the need to transfer the main US forces from the Middle East to the Pacific region because of China. Rapprochement between the US and Russia may become a reality.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1894122078770475162

The Turkmen parliament in Syria was excluded from the national dialogue conference despite being promised one earlier. Turkmens were left out of action in Syria.


Wtf are we even doing

 

[fushkee]

I hope our relationship with new Syrian government shall not be same as in the past Esad regime in the future.

 

[Lool]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1894122078770475162

The Turkmen parliament in Syria was excluded from the national dialogue conference despite being promised one earlier. Turkmens were left out of action in Syria.


Wtf are we even doing

I told you before
HTS backstabbed Turkey. In order to regain relations with the West and remove sanctions, the West had made some demands to ensure that the new Syrian administration is "truly" changed and one of them must have included proof of them not being dependent on Turkey as the fact that Turkey may increase its growth/influence scares the hell out of them

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

I told you before
HTS backstabbed Turkey. In order to regain relations with the West and remove sanctions, the West had made some demands to ensure that the new Syrian administration is "truly" changed and one of them must have included proof of them not being dependent on Turkey as the fact that Turkey may increase its growth/influence scares the hell out of them

So our "Muslim brothers" that we literally backed backstabbed us huh. We have the strongest military in the region and we're sitting next door.

Could imagine a scenario in the future where HTS goes back to its old ways and Türkiye goes in and claims norrhern Syria. Won't happen under Erdoğan though, he's giving them carpets for Umayyad mosque as a gift for betraying us

 

[Ryder]

I hope our relationship with new Syrian government shall not be same as in the past Esad regime in the future.

I hope Turkiye blitzkreigs Syria.

Turn it into a Turkish Cyprus for Syrian Turkmens.

 

[Ryder]

So our "Muslim brothers" that we literally backed backstabbed us huh. We have the strongest military in the region and we're sitting next door.

Could imagine a scenario in the future where HTS goes back to its old ways and Türkiye goes in and claims norrhern Syria. Won't happen under Erdoğan though, he's giving them carpets for Umayyad mosque as a gift for betraying us

The Country is full of Arabs and Kurds.

I dont expect them to be loyal at all.

 

[Ryder]

Israel is threatening Turkiye that Turkiye wont stay long in Syria.

Somebody tell these guys to humble themselves.

 

[Corvus]

Only a few months ago HTS was seen as a threat by the majority in this forum. Since they took over, everyone started to believe that they somehow have to be our loyal dogs.

I don't know where is this expectation coming from. Why do you expect loyalty from an organization that we listed as terrorists until the ultimate success?

Yes, we had a dialogue and we cooperated on some issues but they were quite independent in their policies.

Türkiye and Syria are now close friends and this friendship will evolve into an alliance in time. However, Syria is still Syria and they will give priority to their own security and interests. Just like we give priority to our own. Stop expecting one sided loyalty.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Türkiye and Syria are now close friends and this friendship will evolve into an alliance in time. However, Syria is still Syria and they will give priority to their own security and interests. Just like we give priority to our own. Stop expecting one sided loyalty.

Without Turkiye what security do they have? These clowns were constantly on the run from Russian, Assadist forces, Iranian Shia death squads. Turkish backing and intervention kept them alive. Not to mention the massive social, economic and political cost Turkiye endured over their civil war.

No one expects one sided loyalty, what you don't expect is for these clowns to screw Turks at every opportunity. Without Turkish backing their future would be no different to what the Palestinians experience today.

I mean how stupid can they be? Shaft the one nation that kept them alive, kept them in the game and gave them the victory? Political Islamists are nearly always clowns, absolute and total degenerates parading as holy men.

step by step these "islamists" are behaving and looking more and more like western intelligence assets. No bases in the south of Syria, its not going to be Turkiye's job to get between them and Isreal. The north where our security is critical fine, but the south f'k em.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Sharaa was taken out of the US terrorist list so rapidly that it must've come with some concessions i.e. regarding Israel and Türkiye.
Not surprised at all.

 

[Corvus]

Without Turkiye what security do they have? These clowns were constantly on the run from Russian, Assadist forces, Iranian Shia death squads. Turkish backing and intervention kept them alive. Not to mention the massive social, economic and political cost Turkiye endured over their civil war.

No one expects one sided loyalty, what you don't expect is for these clowns to screw Turks at every opportunity. Without Turkish backing their future would be no different to what the Palestinians experience today.

I mean how stupid can they be? Shaft the one nation that kept them alive, kept them in the game and gave them the victory? Political Islamists are nearly always clowns, absolute and total degenerates parading as holy men.

step by step these "islamists" are behaving and looking more and more like western intelligence assets. No bases in the south of Syria, its not going to be Turkiye's job to get between them and Isreal. The north where our security is critical fine, but the south f'k em.

Who said they will be without Türkiye? We are the most influential country in Syria right now as it is repeatedly declared by Trump and the Israelis.

Some of the figures that are directly in our payroll appointed to critical positions in the new government, especially in security structure. (Such as Fehim İsa)

Do you think they are talking about their favorite TV show here?

Those "clowns" and "political islamists" won the war against all the odds and enemies yet you, a random forum user, claim that they are stupid because you saw some social media posts.

Imagine, you still have sanctions and embargoes on your country, you can provide only 2 hours of electricity in your capital, the previous regime remnants are active, Iran is looking forward to create a mess, Hezbollah is at you border, Israel is giving ultimatums and slowly occupying, the USA still didn't officially recognize your legitimacy, Russia demands bases, the Druze declaring autonomy, the SDF doesn't want to dissolve, there are many other armed groups supported by God knows who, ISIS is expecting at bay to be activated...

And then, you have random Turkish social media users calling you stupid clowns because you demand 150 dollars visa fee.

This arrogance combined with ignorance is killing me.

The world doesn't revolve around us and Syria is no exception. They are walking on a tight rope and they couldn't care less about satisfying your Turkish-centric fantasies.

Syria's security, including the South is directly our concern in the new picture. This is what realities on the ground dictate. Not because we love them or they owe us anything.

 

[TR_123456]

Syria's security, including the South is directly our concern in the new picture. This is what realities on the ground dictate. Not because we love them or they owe us anything.

No,Türkiye's security is our concern.
The only reality is that we need to get rid of the PKK from our southern border.
If the Syrians want to align with the Gulf Arabs then let them handle the South of Syria.
What are you trying to justify here?
And yes why ask a country Visa fees when that country fed your people for almost 15 years?
This is an insult!