TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Lool]

TLDR: the government is commting treason, but here's why I think that's good. Also Erdoğan is playing 11D Chess



Mate Israel fucked up Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and Shia militias in a year. We still can't get rid of YPG next door after more than a decade.

We have millions of refugees including many who aren't even documented, every day they cross our border.

Iran is openly giving PKK arms that have made us lose many of our drones.

This situation isn't acceptable to a nation of our caliber. We have the best military in the middle east but can't do shit because of your greedy man sitting in his 1000 room palace. Enough is enough, trust me once this is over we'll make sure Islamists never gain power again, revenge will be fucking brutal.

What strengthens the PKK isnt Iran but the US. Iam fed up with ppl saying how a nation of "Turkey's caliber" cant finish off the PKK; it isnt because of Iran ffs but because the US is completely behind the PKK. It isnt about Erdogan not wanting to go to war but the US positioning its soldiers between Turkey and the PKK
Its true that Iran is aiding PKK with weapons but it is only done so under US BLESSINGS

if you keep saying that everything is Erdo's fault blindly then you will never solve the PKK issue. I, for instance, believe that Turkey should go all in but the real question is whether Turkey is prepared for a full-on confrontation with the US? The answer is 100% NO! So lets ignore the strongest military fiasco since everything isnt solved militarily

Finally, when will you realise that the Shias and the Israelis are on the same bloody side mate!? When Assad, the greatest pro-Iran asshole, was in power, not a single bullet was fired against Israel and when Hezbollah attacked Israel, not a single rocket fell on civilian/soldier houses or barracks 85% of the time while the jews were having fun bombing, raping, and killing everyone. Therefore, dont be amazed by what Israel did since all of this was made possible by US help. It was the US that provided the intelligence, weaponry, and political backing to anything Israel does

As a result, dont compare Israel to Turkey. Israel, while alone is quite weak, has the backing of all the Western nations through blackmail while Turkey doesnt even have one nation on its side. Even turkish people in other Turkic countries betrayed Turkey and the turks by recognising Greek Cyprus. So getting disappointed is useless. IMO you people should be proud, at the very least, for managing to kick the Iranians and Russians out of Syria

 

[Lool]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1895163789944955179

Mansur Yavas explains “AKP attempted to remove Öcalan three times” With Erdoğan's signature, the AKP wanted to make Öcalan benefit from effective repentance in 2003, 2006 and 2013. As a result of CHP's objections, these proposals were not accepted. All of Türkiye should see this video
Mansur Yavaş explains
“AKP attempted to remove Öcalan three times”

AKP wanted to benefit from effective repentance for Öcalan in 2003, 2006 and 2013 with Erdoğan’s signature.
These proposals were not accepted as a result of CHP’s objections.
All of Turkey should see this video

You expect me to believe Yavas's words when Imamoglu and Kilicdaroglu promised to release Demirtas when they get to power for the past 7 years?
Bro, this is all third-rate politics in order to prevent the AKP from getting as much Kurdish votes as possible in order to mitigate any possible damage to their voter base and I assure you that there is no decent Turkish party or politician within the Turkish arena rn and that includes Umit Ozdag and Tanju Ozcan

 

[Ryder]

Strange things have been happening in America for the last 40 days.
For example, Trump announced that religion would be applied to all areas. He entrusted this work to this woman. Shouldn't this woman be put under the supervision of psychiatrists?
Maybe with Trump

These are the same Christian idiots who bitch and about Sharia Law coming to the USA.

While they are doing the same except in a Christian flavour.

 

[TR_123456]

Strange things have been happening in America for the last 40 days.
For example, Trump announced that religion would be applied to all areas. He entrusted this work to this woman. Shouldn't this woman be put under the supervision of psychiatrists?
Maybe with Trump

She is an example of how Europeans see the Americans in general.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Strange things have been happening in America for the last 40 days.
For example, Trump announced that religion would be applied to all areas. He entrusted this work to this woman. Shouldn't this woman be put under the supervision of psychiatrists?
Maybe with Trump

religion has always been big business. In most cases you always find degenerates leading it. Easy money, easy power. It works the same world wide and it doesnt matter which faith you follow. The game works the same everywhere. She gives me the vibe that she probably engages in orgies.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

And that is why you dont get politics mate
What strengthens the PKK isnt Iran but the US. Iam fed up with ppl saying how a nation of "Turkey's caliber" cant finish off the PKK; it isnt because of Iran ffs but because the US is completely behind the PKK. It isnt about Erdogan not wanting to go to war but the US positioning its soldiers between Turkey and the PKK
Its true that Iran is aiding PKK with weapons but it is only done so under US BLESSINGS

if you keep saying that everything is Erdo's fault blindly then you will never solve the PKK issue. I, for instance, believe that Turkey should go all in but the real question is whether Turkey is prepared for a full-on confrontation with the US? The answer is 100% NO! So lets ignore the strongest military fiasco since everything isnt solved militarily

Finally, when will you realise that the Shias and the Israelis are on the same bloody side mate!? When Assad, the greatest pro-Iran asshole, was in power, not a single bullet was fired against Israel and when Hezbollah attacked Israel, not a single rocket fell on civilian/soldier houses or barracks 85% of the time while the jews were having fun bombing, raping, and killing everyone. Therefore, dont be amazed by what Israel did since all of this was made possible by US help. It was the US that provided the intelligence, weaponry, and political backing to anything Israel does

As a result, dont compare Israel to Turkey. Israel, while alone is quite weak, has the backing of all the Western nations through blackmail while Turkey doesnt even have one nation on its side. Even turkish people in other Turkic countries betrayed Turkey and the turks by recognising Greek Cyprus. So getting disappointed is useless. IMO you people should be proud, at the very least, for managing to kick the Iranians and Russians out of Syria

I'm sorry but this is just hilarious. The amount of nonsense you spit out to justify the governments failures is just obscene.

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you, but would highly recommend you stick to your own nation's politics from now on.

If Türkiye wanted to it would wipe out YPG in a week and no one could do shit. Erdoğan is the problem.

 

[begturan]

How impertinent..... perhaps one should consider a counter reaction, e.g. banning Iranians (including businessmen) from entering the country, banning Farsi as a language in public.
Apparently the Iranians have not been fucked enough by the Americans and Israelis that they blame Turks for their incompetence.

If we ban Persians from entering Türkiye, there will definitely be a big response, except for our Azeri brothers, and for this reason alone, Persians may revolt in Iran. All Iranians who come to Türkiye hate Iran enough to prefer Türkiye to their own country.

 

[Lool]

I'm sorry but this is just hilarious. The amount of nonsense you spit out to justify the governments failures is just obscene.

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you, but would highly recommend you stick to your own nation's politics from now on.

If Türkiye wanted to it would wipe out YPG in a week and no one could do shit. Erdoğan is the problem.

Yeah sure no one is denying that Turkey can defeat the PKK alone but again;
Will you or Turkey be able to endure any sort of American retaliation if even one american soldier gets killed, let alone injured? The answer is NO and you do know it!

The best example to prove my point is that when the HTS, during toppling Assad regime, wanted to enter Der-ez zor region, it wasnt the mighty PKK that stopped them but American troops and fighter jets that stood between them and the PKK and it escalated to the point of US forces firing on the advance forces of the HTS

Moreover, What Iam saying isnt a delusion but cold, hard, facts that surprisingly many in the forum fail to comprehend one way or the other.

And if you could have solved the PKK issue this easily, then elighten me as to why the mighty Turkish army/state couldnt solve the PKK issue pre-Erdogan? Why didnt you teach Assad and the PKK some manners before Erdogan? Surely the mighty Turkish army didnt need to wait for Erdogan or his appointed military officers to come to kick Assad right?

The problem isnt in Erdogan or the former leaders but in the fact that the US has been supporting the PKK and hindering every step of Turkey's and the American can, sadly, do more to Turkey if it wants to and this is the truth you are averting your eyes from. Turkey is still quite weak when it comes toe to toe with the US and I assure you that the US wont stay silent when some1 challenges their authority and for reference, just watch the recent Zelensky-Trump meeting in the Oval Office

So put that political bias and hatred towards specific parties in the drawer since the excuse of everything bad happening to Turkey is because of how weak the govt is isnt going to work in the international arena at all since the game is way too complex for many to understand