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TLDR: the government is commting treason, but here's why I think that's good. Also Erdoğan is playing 11D Chess



Mate Israel fucked up Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and Shia militias in a year. We still can't get rid of YPG next door after more than a decade.

We have millions of refugees including many who aren't even documented, every day they cross our border.

Iran is openly giving PKK arms that have made us lose many of our drones.

This situation isn't acceptable to a nation of our caliber. We have the best military in the middle east but can't do shit because of your greedy man sitting in his 1000 room palace. Enough is enough, trust me once this is over we'll make sure Islamists never gain power again, revenge will be fucking brutal.
What strengthens the PKK isnt Iran but the US. Iam fed up with ppl saying how a nation of "Turkey's caliber" cant finish off the PKK; it isnt because of Iran ffs but because the US is completely behind the PKK. It isnt about Erdogan not wanting to go to war but the US positioning its soldiers between Turkey and the PKK
Its true that Iran is aiding PKK with weapons but it is only done so under US BLESSINGS

if you keep saying that everything is Erdo's fault blindly then you will never solve the PKK issue. I, for instance, believe that Turkey should go all in but the real question is whether Turkey is prepared for a full-on confrontation with the US? The answer is 100% NO! So lets ignore the strongest military fiasco since everything isnt solved militarily

Finally, when will you realise that the Shias and the Israelis are on the same bloody side mate!? When Assad, the greatest pro-Iran asshole, was in power, not a single bullet was fired against Israel and when Hezbollah attacked Israel, not a single rocket fell on civilian/soldier houses or barracks 85% of the time while the jews were having fun bombing, raping, and killing everyone. Therefore, dont be amazed by what Israel did since all of this was made possible by US help. It was the US that provided the intelligence, weaponry, and political backing to anything Israel does

As a result, dont compare Israel to Turkey. Israel, while alone is quite weak, has the backing of all the Western nations through blackmail while Turkey doesnt even have one nation on its side. Even turkish people in other Turkic countries betrayed Turkey and the turks by recognising Greek Cyprus. So getting disappointed is useless. IMO you people should be proud, at the very least, for managing to kick the Iranians and Russians out of Syria
 
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Mansur Yavas explains “AKP attempted to remove Öcalan three times” With Erdoğan's signature, the AKP wanted to make Öcalan benefit from effective repentance in 2003, 2006 and 2013. As a result of CHP's objections, these proposals were not accepted. All of Türkiye should see this video
Mansur Yavaş explains
“AKP attempted to remove Öcalan three times”

AKP wanted to benefit from effective repentance for Öcalan in 2003, 2006 and 2013 with Erdoğan’s signature.
These proposals were not accepted as a result of CHP’s objections.
All of Turkey should see this video
You expect me to believe Yavas's words when Imamoglu and Kilicdaroglu promised to release Demirtas when they get to power for the past 7 years?
Bro, this is all third-rate politics in order to prevent the AKP from getting as much Kurdish votes as possible in order to mitigate any possible damage to their voter base and I assure you that there is no decent Turkish party or politician within the Turkish arena rn and that includes Umit Ozdag and Tanju Ozcan
 

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Strange things have been happening in America for the last 40 days.
For example, Trump announced that religion would be applied to all areas. He entrusted this work to this woman. Shouldn't this woman be put under the supervision of psychiatrists?
Maybe with Trump :)


These are the same Christian idiots who bitch and about Sharia Law coming to the USA.

While they are doing the same except in a Christian flavour.
 

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Strange things have been happening in America for the last 40 days.
For example, Trump announced that religion would be applied to all areas. He entrusted this work to this woman. Shouldn't this woman be put under the supervision of psychiatrists?
Maybe with Trump :)

She is an example of how Europeans see the Americans in general.
 

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Strange things have been happening in America for the last 40 days.
For example, Trump announced that religion would be applied to all areas. He entrusted this work to this woman. Shouldn't this woman be put under the supervision of psychiatrists?
Maybe with Trump :)


religion has always been big business. In most cases you always find degenerates leading it. Easy money, easy power. It works the same world wide and it doesnt matter which faith you follow. The game works the same everywhere. She gives me the vibe that she probably engages in orgies.
 

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And that is why you dont get politics mate
What strengthens the PKK isnt Iran but the US. Iam fed up with ppl saying how a nation of "Turkey's caliber" cant finish off the PKK; it isnt because of Iran ffs but because the US is completely behind the PKK. It isnt about Erdogan not wanting to go to war but the US positioning its soldiers between Turkey and the PKK
Its true that Iran is aiding PKK with weapons but it is only done so under US BLESSINGS

if you keep saying that everything is Erdo's fault blindly then you will never solve the PKK issue. I, for instance, believe that Turkey should go all in but the real question is whether Turkey is prepared for a full-on confrontation with the US? The answer is 100% NO! So lets ignore the strongest military fiasco since everything isnt solved militarily

Finally, when will you realise that the Shias and the Israelis are on the same bloody side mate!? When Assad, the greatest pro-Iran asshole, was in power, not a single bullet was fired against Israel and when Hezbollah attacked Israel, not a single rocket fell on civilian/soldier houses or barracks 85% of the time while the jews were having fun bombing, raping, and killing everyone. Therefore, dont be amazed by what Israel did since all of this was made possible by US help. It was the US that provided the intelligence, weaponry, and political backing to anything Israel does

As a result, dont compare Israel to Turkey. Israel, while alone is quite weak, has the backing of all the Western nations through blackmail while Turkey doesnt even have one nation on its side. Even turkish people in other Turkic countries betrayed Turkey and the turks by recognising Greek Cyprus. So getting disappointed is useless. IMO you people should be proud, at the very least, for managing to kick the Iranians and Russians out of Syria
I'm sorry but this is just hilarious. The amount of nonsense you spit out to justify the governments failures is just obscene.

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you, but would highly recommend you stick to your own nation's politics from now on.

If Türkiye wanted to it would wipe out YPG in a week and no one could do shit. Erdoğan is the problem.
 

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How impertinent..... perhaps one should consider a counter reaction, e.g. banning Iranians (including businessmen) from entering the country, banning Farsi as a language in public.
Apparently the Iranians have not been fucked enough by the Americans and Israelis that they blame Turks for their incompetence.
If we ban Persians from entering Türkiye, there will definitely be a big response, except for our Azeri brothers, and for this reason alone, Persians may revolt in Iran. All Iranians who come to Türkiye hate Iran enough to prefer Türkiye to their own country.
 

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I'm sorry but this is just hilarious. The amount of nonsense you spit out to justify the governments failures is just obscene.

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you, but would highly recommend you stick to your own nation's politics from now on.

If Türkiye wanted to it would wipe out YPG in a week and no one could do shit. Erdoğan is the problem.


Yeah sure no one is denying that Turkey can defeat the PKK alone but again;
Will you or Turkey be able to endure any sort of American retaliation if even one american soldier gets killed, let alone injured? The answer is NO and you do know it!

The best example to prove my point is that when the HTS, during toppling Assad regime, wanted to enter Der-ez zor region, it wasnt the mighty PKK that stopped them but American troops and fighter jets that stood between them and the PKK and it escalated to the point of US forces firing on the advance forces of the HTS

Moreover, What Iam saying isnt a delusion but cold, hard, facts that surprisingly many in the forum fail to comprehend one way or the other.

And if you could have solved the PKK issue this easily, then elighten me as to why the mighty Turkish army/state couldnt solve the PKK issue pre-Erdogan? Why didnt you teach Assad and the PKK some manners before Erdogan? Surely the mighty Turkish army didnt need to wait for Erdogan or his appointed military officers to come to kick Assad right?

The problem isnt in Erdogan or the former leaders but in the fact that the US has been supporting the PKK and hindering every step of Turkey's and the American can, sadly, do more to Turkey if it wants to and this is the truth you are averting your eyes from. Turkey is still quite weak when it comes toe to toe with the US and I assure you that the US wont stay silent when some1 challenges their authority and for reference, just watch the recent Zelensky-Trump meeting in the Oval Office

So put that political bias and hatred towards specific parties in the drawer since the excuse of everything bad happening to Turkey is because of how weak the govt is isnt going to work in the international arena at all since the game is way too complex for many to understand
 
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Israel asks the US to keep Russian bases in Syria.

«Israel advocates a weak and decentralized Syria, and keeping Russian military bases in the country could be a factor in this, Reuters reports, citing sources.
The agency writes that Israel is lobbying for these ideas in the US, hoping to counteract Turkey's influence in Syria, since Ankara's rise poses a threat to the Jewish state. Israel presented its ideas to the US in February at meetings with representatives of the US administration and Congress.
Washington's position on this issue remains unclear. But Reuters sources noted that some US officials, when Israel presented its vision, said that Turkey, as a NATO member, would be the best guarantor of Tel Aviv's security. Israeli representatives disagreed» (haqqin az)

 

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Israel asks the US to keep Russian bases in Syria.

«Israel advocates a weak and decentralized Syria, and keeping Russian military bases in the country could be a factor in this, Reuters reports, citing sources.
The agency writes that Israel is lobbying for these ideas in the US, hoping to counteract Turkey's influence in Syria, since Ankara's rise poses a threat to the Jewish state. Israel presented its ideas to the US in February at meetings with representatives of the US administration and Congress.
Washington's position on this issue remains unclear. But Reuters sources noted that some US officials, when Israel presented its vision, said that Turkey, as a NATO member, would be the best guarantor of Tel Aviv's security. Israeli representatives disagreed» (haqqin az)

But Isreal wants peace
yeah a piece of Syria
 

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Israel asks the US to keep Russian bases in Syria.

«Israel advocates a weak and decentralized Syria, and keeping Russian military bases in the country could be a factor in this, Reuters reports, citing sources.
The agency writes that Israel is lobbying for these ideas in the US, hoping to counteract Turkey's influence in Syria, since Ankara's rise poses a threat to the Jewish state. Israel presented its ideas to the US in February at meetings with representatives of the US administration and Congress.
Washington's position on this issue remains unclear. But Reuters sources noted that some US officials, when Israel presented its vision, said that Turkey, as a NATO member, would be the best guarantor of Tel Aviv's security. Israeli representatives disagreed» (haqqin az)

Not only that but it is reported that they have given the order to Mazloum Abdi to begin separating from the PKK and continue as a separate armed organisation that holds most of Syria's oil and potentially threaten Turkey, Syria, and Iraq at any time
Ofcourse, Israel wants the US to remain militarily as well since no one will dare to touch the PKK/SDF/PYD as long as the US army stands between them and the Turkey/Syria axis

In other words, Syria remains divided, Turkey remains threatened and Israel increases its territory with all being done under US's protection so that none can harm Israel
 

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Here we go ladies and gentlemen
Israel is laying the groundwork for the war against Damascus
Quite likely, with the beginning of the Damascus campaign, a new wave of refugees is gonna hit Turkey
And the greater Israeli project is now more realistic than ever
Sooner or later, they will reach Turkey

In other words, just like in palestine, as long as one druze exists in any Syrian city, it will be eligible for annexation by Israel's standards

 
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If he knows he is gonna get tricked, then dont do it in the first place

Translation:
President Erdogan:
— If the promises given are not kept and we try to resort to oriental tricks such as constantly stalling, deceiving, changing names and doing whatever we want, then the sin is on us.
— If necessary, we will continue our ongoing operations until we eliminate the last terrorist, leaving no stone unturned and no head on his shoulder.

 

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If he knows he is gonna get tricked, then dont do it in the first place

Translation:
President Erdogan:
— If the promises given are not kept and we try to resort to oriental tricks such as constantly stalling, deceiving, changing names and doing whatever we want, then the sin is on us.
— If necessary, we will continue our ongoing operations until we eliminate the last terrorist, leaving no stone unturned and no head on his shoulder.


Domestic consumption. He will do nothing, as usual.
 

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Israel asks the US to keep Russian bases in Syria.

«Israel advocates a weak and decentralized Syria, and keeping Russian military bases in the country could be a factor in this, Reuters reports, citing sources.
The agency writes that Israel is lobbying for these ideas in the US, hoping to counteract Turkey's influence in Syria, since Ankara's rise poses a threat to the Jewish state. Israel presented its ideas to the US in February at meetings with representatives of the US administration and Congress.
Washington's position on this issue remains unclear. But Reuters sources noted that some US officials, when Israel presented its vision, said that Turkey, as a NATO member, would be the best guarantor of Tel Aviv's security. Israeli representatives disagreed» (haqqin az)


Israel fears the Turk.
 
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Turkiye is making fatal mistakes one after another ,
1- process of talking with terrorist separatist kurds that come from zagros but think batman- van-diyarbakir etc is their since 40583 years (hdp-pkk-ypg)
2- Not producing weapons in mass but only few of them or prototypes
3- Not producing mass destrcution weapons of chemical-biological- nuclear types
4-If Turkiye go like this the separation of turkish land is 100% real even between Turks (Secular & religius)
SOLUTIONS
1- producion under total secret Nuclear weapons , Chemical weapons and Biological weapons(illness)
2 - Top secret underground 1.5km underground BIOLOGICAL WEAPON ,KIYAMET WEAPON , type of weapons that can make all humans on earth ill like with Rabies but worse and not curable aslo making it public since 3 civilisations want destruction of Turkiye so better no earth that Earth without Turk. This strategy have aslo Russia.
3- Deporting all kurd separatist that voted HDP pr other separatist movement , revoking their passport even (eliminating them)
4 - Blackmailing word if they want to harm our economy we can harm their since we are in middle of earth we have alot of cards to play .
Boron mineral is one of them , Turkiye produce 80% and banning it for sale will put whole world in economy catastrofic but our stupid politicans dont have brain .
 
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Ok but what if next article is "US refuses to supply parts to Norway's F35 fleet"? Would be funny if european F35 user nations suddenly bought rafales or eurofighter
Given that Trump is changing US foreign policy 180 degrees, I would not be surprised if they not only stop supplying some parts, but stop supplying F-35s to NATO members altogether. I am even considering supplying F-35s to countries that are against NATO, such as Russia!!! (but I exclude Iran due to Israel's strong influence in the US).
This is not fantasy.
Trump can pull the US out of NATO.
Unless he is kicked out of the White House.
There is already information about the Pentagon's decision to withdraw 20,000 US troops from Europe.
 
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Trump can pull the US out of NATO.
He can't directly. They signed in a new law in 2023 requiring 2/3 majority from the senate to do so for this exact possibility. He could sign an order that would lead to a battle between the institutions, that would be sent to SCOTUS. What he can easily do however is to undercut it like he's doint now.
 

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