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It is hilarious to see the EU is self-destructing itself because of Greece and Southern Cyprus. EU will either grow up or be squeezed between the US, Russia and China.
 

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It is hilarious to see the EU is self-destructing itself because of Greece and Southern Cyprus. EU will either grow up or be squeezed between the US, Russia and China.
I fail to see how EU is self destructing because of those 2 states.
Europe doesn't give up on Ukraine, it certainly can't abandon 2 MEMBER states to maximalist demands from an outside power,that's a severe no go.
 

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I fail to see how EU is self destructing because of those 2 states.
Europe doesn't give up on Ukraine, it certainly can't abandon 2 MEMBER states to maximalist demands from an outside power,that's a severe no go.
EU GDP and the US GDP were similar back in the day. Fast forward today, the EU GDP is half of the US GDP and China boomed in that period while EU is stagnated. Those 2 powers out competed the EU and it will be even worse in the next decade.


Greek demands are maximalist, not the other way around, get your facts straight.
 

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EU GDP and the US GDP were similar back in the day. Fast forward today, the EU GDP is half of the US GDP and China boomed in that period while EU is stagnated. Those 2 powers out competed the EU and it will be even worse in the next decade.


Greek demands are maximalist, not the other way around, get your facts straight.
I'm not as familiar as I should be with the Greek-Cypriot-Turkish triangle,so,I'll try not to be very argumentative on this( I know the historical facts,geographical ones,etc but it does require more indepht study).
That being said, you're right on what you've said, on those economical parameters,but,all is far from lost.If the EU should give up,upcoming players like Turkey, and basically everyone else should just lie down and die.
No,there's still wealth, knowledge, tremendous capability within Europe to fight on,to come back.If we can't do it,NO ONE can do it,and the world will be split between US and China.

If a block of 450 million people (excluding close allies as Norway, or the UK), with a GDP per capita of over 43k (Turkey is at 15.5k),with companies like Airbus, Leonardo,Thales,ASNL,Rheinmettal,MBDA,Spotify ,Lidl, Aldi, Carrefour ,BMW,Eutelsat, ,etc,etc ,with its own space rockets,(Ariane),is already defeated and dying....you might just give up on everything now.
 
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