TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Barry]

Military secret 1)

We have an actual Military

 

[Anastasius]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1900535593957810341

-Is this news true ?
If yes than any information what kind of military secrets iran got from Turkiye ?

Yeesh, you mean letting in any random douche across the border without checking and then prioritizing migrants while screwing over your own citizens can lead to spies in your critical industries? Who would've guessed?

 

[Asena_great]

@Mis_TR_Like this is a interesting video about hammer forces that Turgut Özal allowed to be form in northren iraq and peace process !

 

[Ryder]

Bosnian Serb Leader Dodik Once Again Moves Country Closer To The Brink

Following state prosecutors in Bosnia-Herzegovina ordering the arrest of Serb separatist leader Milorad Dodik, Republika Srpska has adopted a draft of a new constitution.

www.rferl.org

Remember if Turkiye did not kick the Armenians and Greeks out.

Anatolia would be ruled just like Bosnia. Now Erdogan is giving more rights to the Kurds. Giving them the green light to form their own self determination.

Bosnia's biggest mistake was not kicking all the serbs out.

You do have Turkish troops in Kosovo. I wonder what the game plan is because it seems another balkan war is coming.

Just what Turkiye needed another shitty war on its doorstep as if the Middle East, Black sea and the Caucasus was not enough!!

 

[Iskander]

Access Restricted

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Secure at home, empowered in the Middle East and seen as indispensable in Europe, Mr Erdogan is eyeing the greatest bonanza of his quarter of a century in power. Nor is it just abroad where his might is being felt.

In the coming months, he is expected to lay the groundwork for constitutional change allowing him to remain in power beyond 2028, when he will be 74.

Given the risk of alienating such a vital ally and pushing him back into Moscow’s orbit, it is difficult to imagine many European leaders protesting.

Mr Erdogan has long been desperate to restore Turkey’s Ottoman sheen. Restoring the old empire may not be possible, but few Turks doubt that they now have a leader who is more sultan than president.


(In order not to spoil your appetite in the morning, I advise that Turks not read the comments)

 

[IC3M@N FX]

In order not to spoil your appetite in the morning, I advise that Turks not read the comments

That's why we should only cooperate economically with these countries, we should never, I repeat never, help these countries.
They hate us to the bone, and you have to arm yourself to the teeth so that they don't get the wrong idea.

In the long term, Turkey should focus on the Middle and Far East Islamic States in Asia, Africa and the Turkic states.

Turkey should only maintain economic relations with the USA, China, Russia and Europe, nothing more.

How many people like me who live in Europe know how hatred towards Turks & Co is growing because it is a mix of hatred, envy and fear.

 

[Iskander]

The European Union is acting hypocritically towards Turkey, Brussels has no right to teach Ankara democracy.

This was stated by Senior Advisor to the President of Turkey Mehmet Ucum on the social network X, commenting on the report of the rapporteur on Turkey in the European Parliament Nacho Amor.
Ucum quotes Amor, who said that the EU is open to developing defense ties with Turkey, but Turkey has no prospects for membership in the Union. Advisor to Erdogan Ucum said that the European Union is acting insincerely and hypocritically, and the statements of the EP rapporteur are arrogant and "born of a colonial mentality."

"The European Union is the sick man of our time. Those who speak on behalf of this sick man should first look at themselves. The sick man, the European Union, cannot give Turkey lessons in democracy and law. Let them deal with their own crises of democracy and law," Ucum said.

Турция обвиняет Евросоюз в лицемерии

haqqin.az

 

[Sanchez]

"The European Union is the sick man of our time. Those who speak on behalf of this sick man should first look at themselves. The sick man, the European Union, cannot give Turkey lessons in democracy and law. Let them deal with their own crises of democracy and law," Ucum said.

"Kiss kiss, hug hug" overtures lasted about 1 week before straddling back to the regular stuff, has to be a new record.

 

[GoatsMilk]

That's why we should only cooperate economically with these countries, we should never, I repeat never, help these countries.
They hate us to the bone, and you have to arm yourself to the teeth so that they don't get the wrong idea.

In the long term, Turkey should focus on the Middle and Far East Islamic States in Asia, Africa and the Turkic states.

Turkey should only maintain economic relations with the USA, China, Russia and Europe, nothing more.

How many people like me who live in Europe know how hatred towards Turks & Co is growing because it is a mix of hatred, envy and fear.

Its why i say to the Kurds and other minority groups not to fall for the euro-origin mans games, he hates the brown to the core. And of all the non-white races out there they hate the Turks the most because of our ability to rise above them as has happened countless times in history. Its why i say, when a Kurd sees a euro-origin man promoting division between him and the Turk, he should spit in that's demons face and call him a ku*t. It sounds harsh, its sounds extreme but these devils are trying to make us kill each other so that in the end they can come in and turns us all into their slaves.

Race and Religion may not be important to the Turks, but in Europe its critical in understanding their behaviour and attitude towards us. I get this forum wants to stay away from it, but much of whats happening against the Turks and the middle east is about about race and religion. The isrealis don't hide it, they openly tell us its about race and religion when they exterminate the palestinians. The euro-origin people hide it under positive sounding yet false slogans like "shared values".

 

[IC3M@N FX]

I know these are professionals when it comes to dividing cultures they sow a seed of discord to then weaken them and destroy both. That's why you should attack them with their weapons by using exactly this weapon in Europe.
Greece is at odds with Macedonia, France with England, Germany with half of Europe.
Yes, this discord is still there, it just needs to be encouraged
You just have to plant the seeds of discord and use the weapons they use against the Turks and Kurds. In itself, it is easy to pay extremists through middlemen.
A false flag attack here and there and everything falls apart at the seams

Although I generally don't approve of such things and people need to grow up and respect each other regardless of religion, ethnicity, origin and culture.
Nevertheless, it is very tempting to experience this when they have to swallow their own medicine.

 

[Scott Summers]

I remember we had a code to read online exclusive articles? What was that again?

 

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1901272258695348730

By the way, this is the first time Trump and Erdoğan talked since Trump assumed the office for a second time. First time in 2 months. Good, and bad.

 

[contricusc]

That's why you should attack them with their weapons by using exactly this weapon in Europe.
Greece is at odds with Macedonia, France with England, Germany with half of Europe.
Yes, this discord is still there, it just needs to be encouraged
You just have to plant the seeds of discord and use the weapons they use against the Turks and Kurds. In itself, it is easy to pay extremists through middlemen.
A false flag attack here and there and everything falls apart at the seams

You live in Germany, yet you have such hostile ideas against Europe. Maybe your way of thinking is what makes Europeans weary of you, and why they feel threatened.

How would you feel if people who moved to your country would have such bad opinions about it and would be open to such hostile ideas?

 

[TR_123456]

You live in Germany, yet you have such hostile ideas against Europe. Maybe your way of thinking is what makes Europeans weary of you, and why they feel threatened.

How would you feel if people who moved to your country would have such bad opinions about it and would be open to such hostile ideas?

Those hostile ideas were created by Europe itself,you need to understand the history of Turks in Europe first and the European policies against Turks and none European immigrants.
There was almost no policy of including them into the European society,most countries just created getto's(lack of interest),discrimination,second class citizen etc.
So,no inclusiveness.
Türkiye's policy was the opposite,inclusiveness of all ''Turks'' around the world.
If you were in such a position,where would your alignment be?
Every foreigner(refugess excluded since you know what) living in Türkiye is included in society,not excluded.
See the difference?

 

[Ahlatshah]

By the way, this is the first time Trump and Erdoğan talked since Trump assumed the office for a second time. First time in 2 months. Good, and bad.

I dont think it is bad. Trump has needed and will always need an enemy or adversary. As unstable as he is, so long as he doesnt aim for us, it is all good. we shouldnt mess with "crazy of village"

 

[GoatsMilk]

The discords between Europeans is very interesting. Most of them for example have historical grievances concerning their borders. Most countries that neighbour each other have historical claims to each others territories. Not to mention that discrimination and racism is extreme in many of them. For example look at how the "gypsies" are treated in most of europe. Yet no media ever provokes these discords between them, yet all of them without fail will talk about the "Kurds".

And when you look into those discords, the most death, destruction and tyranny Europeans have experienced has been caused to them by other Europeans. The Turk, the Muslim in general is nothing compared to what Europeans have done to themselves.

I've visited quite a few countries in europe and the racism in many of them is bordering fanatical. In a place like the czech republic outside of Prague if your brown skinned that is enough for no one to give you a job. Also a crazy level of ignorance pervades many these racist cultures/nations, they think they know everything about you but know next to nothing.

 

[contricusc]

There was almost no policy of including them into the European society,most countries just created getto's(lack of interest),discrimination,second class citizen etc.
So,no inclusiveness.

It is easy to lay the blame on the host countries for not including them in their societies, but from the host country’s perspective, it is the fault of the foreigners who didn’t want to assimilate and segregated themselves in ghettos.

There is a lot of intra-European migration because of the free movement withing the EU, but you don’t have the same problem with lack of integration as you have with people from outside Europe. Maybe this is because people from outside Europe have a different culture and don’t want to integrate, not because they are not welcome.

To be fair, I would say the blame lies somewhere in the middle. The host countries are surely more reluctant when it comes to non-European migrants, but also the migrants are more prone to mingle among themselves and refuse to integrate into the local populatiom.

I’m just pointing out that from a European perspective, you see many people from outside Europe migrating to Europe, and failing to integrate. On the other hand, Europeans who migrate outside Europe always integrate into the local countries and are generally a net benefit to their economies, as they generally are above average in income and consumption, and they are usually more educated than the average person.

Considering the above, it is easy to conclude that Europeans are not the problem. And when you see open hostility towards Europe from the same people who moved there, the animosity and distrust can only go up. And this creates a vicious cycle, as those migrants get treated unfairly because of that fear and animosity, and they turn even more radical against the host countries.

It’s a really bad situation that is very hard to fix at this moment, because the amount of non-European migrants who arrived in Europe in the last decades was too high for the host countries to be able to assimilate in a healthy manner. And once the migrants feel discriminated and hated, they behave in a way that will only reinforce those feelings, and the situation spirals out of control.

I think that Turks in Europe would have integrated much better if it was not for the wave of migrants from Africa, Middle East and Asia that flooded Europe lately, which created hard feelings towards everyone non-European, and especially from an islamic country.

 

[Sanchez]

To be fair, I would say the blame lies somewhere in the middle.

There's a reason why 3rd generation university educated German Turks with high paying jobs are leaving their home countries and returning back to Turkey. I have 3 cousins that were born in Europe, 2 settled in Antalya last year. They are highly educated girls, both speaking 2 languages on top of German and Turkish. They don't view themselves as Germans, but Turks. They don't see themselves as a part of Germany, which I do find interesting. Turks in US, Canada, or even Netherlands don't usually feel the same and are much more integrated. Germany fucked up big time integrating their Turkish minority to their national myth. And with the country going further far right, rest will feel the heat as well.

I dont think it is bad. Trump has needed and will always need an enemy or adversary. As unstable as he is, so long as he doesnt aim for us, it is all good. we shouldnt mess with "crazy of village"

Oh, definitely. It's best if he just doesn't think about us unless it's absolutely necessary for the next 4 years.

 

[TR_123456]

I think that Turks in Europe would have integrated much better if it was not for the wave of migrants from Africa, Middle East and Asia that flooded Europe lately, which created hard feelings towards everyone non-European, and especially from an islamic country.

Turks came here in the 60's and 70's,you are comparing apples and oranges.
And who accepted all those migrants from Africa,Asia and whatnot with their strange cultures,and who let them keep their cultures and habits instead of integrating them into society?
In the UK they created a different society with their own customs clothes culture etc,in Belgium(Brussels),you cant enter certain neighborhoods as a native,in Berlin try going to an Arab(Palestinians,Syrians,Iraqis) neighborhood as a none Arab,in France whole cities have changed to Africa.
Who did all this?
Turks were all modern in the 60's 70's 80's,it all started from the 90's on when all the rest started coming and fucked up the whole system.
Again,who's fault is that?

 

[contricusc]

Not to mention that discrimination and racism is extreme in many of them. For example look at how the "gypsies" are treated in most of europe. Yet no media ever provokes these discords between them, yet all of them without fail will talk about the "Kurds".

The gypsies are not discriminated against in Europe. There are actually many programs (most of them funded with EU money) that are directed to help their communities. There are even instances of positive discrimination for gypsies, like reserved spots at universities.

The problems lies mostly with their own culture, as they tend to dislike education and enjoy more criminal ways of life like stealing, begging, prostitution, etc. (not all of them of course, but many of them do).

I've visited quite a few countries in europe and the racism in many of them is bordering fanatical. In a place like the czech republic outside of Prague if your brown skinned that is enough for no one to give you a job.

Outside of big cities which are more multi-cultural, people have less experience with non-white people, so they tend to mistrust them, be afraid of them. There is obviously a higher level of racism and xenophobia in rural areas than in big cities, but this applies to every country and culture, not only to Europe.