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As I have said before, though my massage was deleted due for whatever reason, Greeks as any Orthodox and Oriental Christians would do anything just to get the chance to annihilate Muslims.
Weather Israel or Russia gain control over them it doesn't matter, of course Russia would be preferable.
It is always the same story with them.
Hopefully, Jewery will destroy them completely in any possible way. That nasty little country called Greece has always been subsidised just for this situation. Otherwise, what normal person would endlessly finance such fraudsters?
Hopefully, Jewery buys every single thing in Cyprus and make them domestic help. I am sure that Greeks would be happy even with that, just if such situation would pose a threat to the Turks .
I know this kind of minde very well.
 

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America discovered the Caspian Sea :)

According to the article "The Caspian Sea Opens for the US" in The National Interest magazine, Azerbaijan occupies a unique strategic position in the South Caucasus, offering Washington opportunities in the areas of trade, energy security, and regional deterrence.

Author Joseph Einstein notes that "Baku controls a key part of the Middle Corridor—the only land route from Europe to Asia that does not pass through Russia and Iran."

He also notes that a stable transit route through Azerbaijan opens new opportunities for Central Asia and offers an alternative to China's control of rare earth elements: "Any stable trade route to Central Asia that does not pass through Russia, China, and Iran must pass through Azerbaijan." The publication emphasizes that Baku is now becoming a central entry point and a regional leader.

"Azerbaijan is not simply a country dominated by its larger neighbors." This also presents Washington with a rare strategic opportunity with immediate implications for trade, energy security, and regional deterrence. Baku supplies natural gas to Europe and has helped ease tensions between Jerusalem and Ankara. The publication notes that Azerbaijan has become a bridge to Central Asia, which the United States has recently prioritized in its search for alternatives to Chinese rare earth minerals.
The author notes that the time has come to repeal Section 907 of the Freedom Support Act. He calls on Washington to "view Azerbaijan not just as another peripheral partner, but as the key state it is becoming. Such opportunities rarely remain open for long."


 
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"The Turkish opposition will not let voters forget it. Neither should anyone else who watches a proud nation’s foreign policy held hostage to one man’s ego."

He really does have a special ability to get us into unnecessary predicaments.

I don't know what triggered it, but since the end of 2020 we've seen nothing but empty threats. We've warned YPG million times of an imminent operation and haven't made a single move. Not to mention the countless incidents in recent times. I've lost all faith in this administration.

If Erdoğan doesn't want to resign, he should at least reshuffle the government, because they're clearly incapable of running the country.
 
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Israel became the first and, so far, only country to re cognize Somaliland's independence. Why does Israel need an Islamic state that no country has officially recognized for 34 years?
Somaliland is probably the poorest country in the world. Somaliland is an Islamic country with a Sharia-based legal system, like Iran, and, according to some sources, persecutes people of other religious faiths, including Christians.
I've never been interested in Somaliland, and I'm generally unfamiliar with the region.

Theysay the Israelis will cooperate in developing Somaliland's agriculture.,
YeahI believed it right away;)

 
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Israel became the first and, so far, only country to re cognize Somaliland's independence. Why does Israel need an Islamic state that no country has officially recognized for 34 years?
Somaliland is probably the poorest country in the world. Somaliland is an Islamic country with a Sharia-based legal system, like Iran, and, according to some sources, persecutes people of other religious faiths, including Christians.
I've never been interested in Somaliland, and I'm generally unfamiliar with the region.

Theysay the Israelis will cooperate in developing Somaliland's agriculture.,
YeahI believed it right away;)

Israel's recognition of Somaliland has 6 main goals
1- A clear message to growing Turkish influence in the region; particularly when the first Turkish drilling ship is set to start oil exploration within the early months of 2026
2- Keeping a 24-hour surveillance over the spaceport that Turkey is planning to build in Somalia
3- Aiding UAE's plans in dividing the African horn into smaller nations that both the UAE and Israel can infiltrate and control
4- Control over vital sea shipping routes and oil shipping routes
5- Having an Israeli military base close to Israeli areas of interests (areas where Israeli allies are located) such as the RSF in Sudan, and UAE-backed militias in Yemen
6- The possible relocation of Gazans into Somaliland

They are recently becoming extremely aggressive in their foreign policy and arent even bothering in hiding their true intentions anymore because Turkey toppled Assad and liberated Sudan's capital from the RSF; Events which the Israelis didnt want to see in the first place. If they dont act immediately to fullfill their satanic agendas, within the next 5-10 years, Turkey may actually control most of the horn of Africa; something Israel will never allow to happen
 
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Israel and UAE are basically in bed with each other.

Its even worse how their plans are all about surrounding Turkiye.
 

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I am following the Israeli media. They are not at all happy about our foothold in Somalia. That explains why they took this strategic decision. They want to encircle and suffocate Turkey. I am angry that we have not been able to resolve that Somaliland issue so far. Somaliland is much more strategic than Somalia itself. Just like in Libya we only half did it there. Because we dont use hard power enough. It was right to use soft power in Somalia but against the insurgence from Somaliland we should have responded very harshly. Only soft power, training locals etc. gdoes not bring much if we dont complement it with determined action of our own forces if needed. And whenever they get involved we should make sure the other side suffers such losses that no one dares to challenge us once we set foot somewhere. And if we are not ready to do some sacrifices in such cases we should just stay within our borders!
 

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I am following the Israeli media. They are not at all happy about our foothold in Somalia. That explains why they took this strategic decision. They want to encircle and suffocate Turkey. I am angry that we have not been able to resolve that Somaliland issue so far. Somaliland is much more strategic than Somalia itself. Just like in Libya we only half did it there. Because we dont use hard power enough. It was right to use soft power in Somalia but against the insurgence from Somaliland we should have responded very harshly. Only soft power, training locals etc. gdoes not bring much if we dont complement it with determined action of our own forces if needed. And whenever they get involved we should make sure the other side suffers such losses that no one dares to challenge us once we set foot somewhere. And if we are not ready to do some sacrifices in such cases we should just stay within our borders!
Today one of the official Turkish military accounts shared some funny BS.

"Güç silahta değildir! Asıl güç, masumların size duyduğu güvendir"

"Power is not in weapons! True power lies in the dimension of trust innocents have for you."

I just thought to my self, omg...

The Country with the biggest guns dictate whats up when it comes to showing force. I don't know why but Türkiye LOVES doing half assed stuff...
 
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I am following the Israeli media. They are not at all happy about our foothold in Somalia. That explains why they took this strategic decision. They want to encircle and suffocate Turkey. I am angry that we have not been able to resolve that Somaliland issue so far. Somaliland is much more strategic than Somalia itself. Just like in Libya we only half did it there. Because we dont use hard power enough. It was right to use soft power in Somalia but against the insurgence from Somaliland we should have responded very harshly. Only soft power, training locals etc. gdoes not bring much if we dont complement it with determined action of our own forces if needed. And whenever they get involved we should make sure the other side suffers such losses that no one dares to challenge us once we set foot somewhere. And if we are not ready to do some sacrifices in such cases we should just stay within our borders!
You see, the main problem in Somalia is that it is under tribal rule; i-e, clans fighting over power and are refusing to share it with other clans.

Do you know why Al-shabab terrorists are still freely roaming in Somalia even though Turkey, USA, Egypt, Russia, and even China are sending loads of weapons everyday? It is because all of the weapons and training are being concentrated into one or two clans that rules Somalia, to which the current PM belongs to.

Long ago, I read in a Reuters article, how Turkish officials were frustrated by the Somalian govt for always sending people from the same clan to undergo security training in Turkey!

Moreover, Turkey can act militarily and could have solve the somaliland issue alone; however, that would absolutely be used by Turkey's adversaries to issue sanctions and just hurt Turkey one way or another. Which then creates the question of whether the price that Turkey will pay to solve the Somaliland issue worth it or not? Mind you that Somalia isnt completely loyal to Turkey and can backstab it at any moment purely from the fact that it is ruled by tribal forces and has more than 4 nations' military bases on its land. Therefore, the answer any govt will eventually reach is that any price to solve Somalia's issues wont be worth it since the core problem of Somalia hasnt been solved. In other words, you solved somaliland issue today, but tomorrow a new somaliland will emerge under a different alias since the core problem hasnt been solved
 
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Today one of the official Turkish military accounts shared some funny BS.

"Güç silahta değildir! Asıl güç, masumların size duyduğu güvendir"

"Power is not in weapons! True power lies in the dimension of trust innocents have for you."

I just thought to my self, omg...

The Country with the biggest guns dictate whats up when it comes to showing force. I don't know why but Türkiye LOVES doing half assed stuff...
tarikat guy for sure. islamist are poison everywhere
 

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I am following the Israeli media. They are not at all happy about our foothold in Somalia. That explains why they took this strategic decision. They want to encircle and suffocate Turkey. I am angry that we have not been able to resolve that Somaliland issue so far. Somaliland is much more strategic than Somalia itself. Just like in Libya we only half did it there. Because we dont use hard power enough. It was right to use soft power in Somalia but against the insurgence from Somaliland we should have responded very harshly. Only soft power, training locals etc. gdoes not bring much if we dont complement it with determined action of our own forces if needed. And whenever they get involved we should make sure the other side suffers such losses that no one dares to challenge us once we set foot somewhere. And if we are not ready to do some sacrifices in such cases we should just stay within our borders!

Its a limitation of power. Have your own air force, hundreds of autonomous fighter drones and a massive collection of other military tools and its a different proposition. Isreal has a top tier military thanks to endless goy support and politically she can commit open genocide and she receives no sanctions, no embargoes, no threats of military action etc.

This is why i say we are at a point now where we really need 10 to 20 years, then by all means lets play this direct and open war game. Turkiye has to do what she can to a point to limit the designs against her during this period, like the kurdistan project, the greek french/isreali alliance. The Russian instigations, the american/EU support for all of our adversaries, etc.

Right now Turkiye is going to have to bite the bullet, but if there was ever a time for strategic patience, its right now. Every single one of enemies knows what coming. A limited Shitty bunch of inaccurate ballistic missiles that had most of the western world working to intercept was enough to make the Isrealis shit their little genocidal panties. Play it smart now, war is coming that is 100% certain since they wish to dominate the region and Turks never let anyone dominate anything without war first.

Culturally in order for this war to truly be fought the way it needs to be fought, Turkish identity needs to elevated. Nationalism among the Turks must be reinforced to such a degree that when the war comes every Turk will find himself ready to make the required sacrifice. Islam must be used to bring all the non-Turk Muslims into the sphere of the Turks, it must not be used to allow minorities who hates Turks, who side with the enemy to raise themselves above the position of the Turks and then to beat him down with their "piety".

War is 100% coming, but for the Turks its better it comes later then sooner. But if you look at our history massive alliances forming against us and the Turk being able to overcome them is nothing new.

The enemy is like a vampire, you have to invite him in before he can harm you. The enemy right now and arguably since the onset of the syrian civil war has been hoping that Turkiye falls into their traps.

Let me give one example, back when davidson was working the americans were implying that Turkiye had to right to intervene to defend herself. Basically egging Turkiye on to invade Syria. Davidson kept saying that Turkiye is happy to put assad to bed provided Turkiye is given authorisation by the UN security council and if not by them then by NATO herself. The americans wouldn't provide neither. Because the plan was for Turkiye to enter Syria the way Saddam entered Kuwait and then they would have used it as an excuse to call us an invader and then attack us, or at the very least drag us into a quagmire we can not easily leave.

If you pay attention to everything that happened over Syria, the americans put many "fatal" traps in front of Turkiye and fortunately none were stepped on. For all of the dumb shit erdogan does, he never does anything that will risk his throne, that narcissistic character of his, his love of power, wealth and status means he's relatively risk adverse. Most of the time he will only act when he realises to not act is more dangerous.
 
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You see, the main problem in Somalia is that it is under tribal rule; i-e, clans fighting over power and are refusing to share it with other clans.

Do you know why Al-shabab terrorists are still freely roaming in Somalia even though Turkey, USA, Egypt, Russia, and even China are sending loads of weapons everyday? It is because all of the weapons and training are being concentrated into one or two clans that rules Somalia, to which the current PM belongs to.

Long ago, I read in a Reuters article, how Turkish officials were frustrated by the Somalian govt for always sending people from the same clan to undergo security training in Turkey!

Moreover, Turkey can act militarily and could have solve the somaliland issue alone; however, that would absolutely be used by Turkey's adversaries to issue sanctions and just hurt Turkey one way or another. Which then creates the question of whether the price that Turkey will pay to solve the Somaliland issue worth it or not? Mind you that Somalia isnt completely loyal to Turkey and can backstab it at any moment purely from the fact that it is ruled by tribal forces and has more than 4 nations' military bases on its land. Therefore, the answer any govt will eventually reach is that any price to solve Somalia's issues wont be worth it since the core problem of Somalia hasnt been solved. In other words, you solved somaliland issue today, but tomorrow a new somaliland will emerge under a different alias since the core problem hasnt been solved

Somalia is a trainwreck. Doesnt matter if Turkiye solves it militarily.

They take their clans, tribal lineages too serious.

Not to mention the corruption that is so rife.

I find Somalia to be better warriors to train than Arabs. All they need is unity, cohesiveness it is easier said than done.

Somalis are more braver than the Arabs and Kurds. Italians, French, Ethiopians and the British partitioned their lands they still fought back regardless.

I think Turkish officers fustrations mainly mirror Hayreddin Barbarossa's experience with Arab troops. Same story in the Karabag war defeat in the 90s one Turkish officer said that Azerbaijanis are the Poets and writers of the Turkic world not soldiers. Azerbaijan, 30 years later proved us all wrong that they can be soldiers.
 

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Its a limitation of power. Have your own air force, hundreds of autonomous fighter drones and a massive collection of other military tools and its a different proposition. Isreal has a top tier military thanks to endless goy support and politically she can commit open genocide and she receives no sanctions, no embargoes, no threats of military action etc.

This is why i say we are at a point now where we really need 10 to 20 years, then by all means lets play this direct and open war game. Turkiye has to do what she can to a point to limit the designs against her during this period, like the kurdistan project, the greek french/isreali alliance. The Russian instigations, the american/EU support for all of our adversaries, etc.

Right now Turkiye is going to have to bite the bullet, but if there was ever a time for strategic patience, its right now. Every single one of enemies knows what coming. A limited Shitty bunch of inaccurate ballistic missiles that had most of the western world working to intercept was enough to make the Isrealis shit their little genocidal panties. Play it smart now, war is coming that is 100% certain since they wish to dominate the region and Turks never let anyone dominate anything without war first.

Culturally in order for this war to truly be fought the way it needs to be fought, Turkish identity needs to elevated. Nationalism among the Turks must be reinforced to such a degree that when the war comes every Turk will find himself ready to make the required sacrifice. Islam must be used to bring all the non-Turk Muslims into the sphere of the Turks, it must not be used to allow minorities who hates Turks, who side with the enemy to raise themselves above the position of the Turks and then to beat him down with their "piety".

War is 100% coming, but for the Turks its better it comes later then sooner. But if you look at our history massive alliances forming against us and the Turk being able to overcome them is nothing new.

The enemy is like a vampire, you have to invite him in before he can harm you. The enemy right now and arguably since the onset of the syrian civil war has been hoping that Turkiye falls into their traps.

Let me give one example, back when davidson was working the americans were implying that Turkiye had to right to intervene to defend herself. Basically egging Turkiye on to invade Syria. Davidson kept saying that Turkiye is happy to put assad to bed provided Turkiye is given authorisation by the UN security council and if not by them then by NATO herself. The americans wouldn't provide neither. Because the plan was for Turkiye to enter Syria the way Saddam entered Kuwait and then they would have used it as an excuse to call us an invader and then attack us, or at the very least drag us into a quagmire we can not easily leave.

If you pay attention to everything that happened over Syria, the americans put many "fatal" traps in front of Turkiye and fortunately none were stepped on. For all of the dumb shit erdogan does, he never does anything that will risk his throne, that narcissistic character of his, his love of power, wealth and status means he's relatively risk adverse. Most of the time he will only act when he realises to not act is more dangerous.
I agree to most of the above. But we should‘nt need top tier military equipment to beat some tribal insurgents. Otherwise we risk ending up like America. Top modern weapons and equipment but no real land force because they are unwilling to fight. We should be ready to die not only to defend our motherland but also to gain influence, wealth, and strategic benefits elsewhere. This is what british empire did and what our ancestors did. No half done things please.
 

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This is primary threat to Egypt and to almost the same extent to Saudi Arabia. That's pretty obvious, just by looking at the map. Of course in grand scheme of the things, Turkey is threatened as well, but for Turkiye the primary threat is Greece, Cyprus and Israeli alliance and that Wahabi traitor in Damascus.
And for everyone who talks about Islamists, well I agree that they are in many ways problem but I am sure that those who hide behind " patriotism" ( in great deal of cases) , would tomorrow strike any sort of the deal with any enemy of Turkey. That's pretty clear.
Because, they pretend that the mere existence of Turkey as geographical , political, cultural and social entity isn't the main problem. Normal people under such threats, looking to make their society more cohesive and in any war , it is plebs that sacrifice the most. I was in a war so I know.
I remember a few years ago on this forum I was propagating Istanbul channel, people were against me. Mere look at the map and peek who is who and what's what, clearly shows the need for such a thing.
And that the opinion , plans , ambitions and hopes of others Vis a Vis Turkey are the same as they ever have been, words of Inonu ring the bell " We have bought the peace for hundred years".
Greeks, , Russians want Istanbul as much as they did 100 years ago, so do other Europeans. Nothing has ever changed in that regards. It has always been naturally important for Israelis to diminish Turkiye, after all anyone rational is after of the permanent, strong entity close by , even if they are " friendly" with such entity .
As of the Somalis? Well, f them.
Everything that Trump said about them is true and as we say in Bosnia " You can make burek out of anything but never out of shit"
In the politics and especially, if you have limited base, you only can invest into something that has at least a bit of value, whatever that value could be.
 

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I agree to most of the above. But we should‘nt need top tier military equipment to beat some tribal insurgents. Otherwise we risk ending up like America. Top modern weapons and equipment but no real land force because they are unwilling to fight. We should be ready to die not only to defend our motherland but also to gain influence, wealth, and strategic benefits elsewhere. This is what british empire did and what our ancestors did. No half done things please.

We certainly need to move away from half measures. Next war the Greeks start the entire island must return to the Turks, even parts of greece should be annexed. The people who attempted to murder us can leave for Russia. No more brotherhood nonsense, or giving them rights and land. That mindset brought incredible harm to not only the Turks but the wider Muslim world. Treat them the way europeans powers always treated their conquered subjects.
 

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We certainly need to move away from half measures. Next war the Greeks start the entire island must return to the Turks, even parts of greece should be annexed. The people who attempted to murder us can leave for Russia. No more brotherhood nonsense, or giving them rights and land. That mindset brought incredible harm to not only the Turks but the wider Muslim world. Treat them the way europeans powers always treated their conquered subjects.
War with the greeks is a 100% certainty. It is only a matter of who will be the most prepared! Sadly, Turkey wont have a decent period of 10-20 years to prepare. I for one, think that the war will happen within the next 10 years max
 

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That last line, in particular, explains a lot about how Erdogan operates tbh! Especially after the 2016 military coup

Erdogan doesnt wanna leave Syria, is entrenched in Libya, Somalia, and now Sudan not only to increase his influence but also because he realises that if he doesnt act now, then he will not only lose his throne, but will be hanged and highly likely Turkey will enter a gruesome period of civil war just like in Syria, Libya, and Sudan

Turkiye is not leaving at all. If they leave Syria, Libya, Somalia, Iraq and the Caucasus it makes Turkiye more vulnerable to attack.

South Cyprus cant do shit. Greeks basically sold out their piece of the island to the israelis, French, Americans and the British now they are inviting India. All to get back at the Turks.

Cyprus is the redline. Cyprus is more important to Turkiye than Syria, Libya, Somalia and Iraq.

Not to say Libya, Somalia and Syria are not important they are really important but Turkish Cyprus is the most important priority for Turkiye to keep.

Israelis are not talking about kicking Turkiye out of Sudan, Syria, Libya or Iraq they want them out of Cyprus. Thats all you need to know how important this place is.
 

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This is primary threat to Egypt and to almost the same extent to Saudi Arabia. That's pretty obvious, just by looking at the map. Of course in grand scheme of the things, Turkey is threatened as well, but for Turkiye the primary threat is Greece, Cyprus and Israeli alliance and that Wahabi traitor in Damascus.
And for everyone who talks about Islamists, well I agree that they are in many ways problem but I am sure that those who hide behind " patriotism" ( in great deal of cases) , would tomorrow strike any sort of the deal with any enemy of Turkey. That's pretty clear.
Because, they pretend that the mere existence of Turkey as geographical , political, cultural and social entity isn't the main problem. Normal people under such threats, looking to make their society more cohesive and in any war , it is plebs that sacrifice the most. I was in a war so I know.
I remember a few years ago on this forum I was propagating Istanbul channel, people were against me. Mere look at the map and peek who is who and what's what, clearly shows the need for such a thing.
And that the opinion , plans , ambitions and hopes of others Vis a Vis Turkey are the same as they ever have been, words of Inonu ring the bell " We have bought the peace for hundred years".
Greeks, , Russians want Istanbul as much as they did 100 years ago, so do other Europeans. Nothing has ever changed in that regards. It has always been naturally important for Israelis to diminish Turkiye, after all anyone rational is after of the permanent, strong entity close by , even if they are " friendly" with such entity .
As of the Somalis? Well, f them.
Everything that Trump said about them is true and as we say in Bosnia " You can make burek out of anything but never out of shit"
In the politics and especially, if you have limited base, you only can invest into something that has at least a bit of value, whatever that value could be.

Ideology will always be secondary when it comes to geopolitics.

Its all about interests. You scratch my back I will scratch yours.
 

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Azerbaijani MFA: Recognition of Somalia's 'Somaliland' region violates int'l law​


Recognition of Somalia's "Somaliland" region violates international law, Azerbaijani Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) said on recent developments in Somalia, as quoted by Report.
"The Republic of Azerbaijan reiterates its full support for the sovereignty, unity, and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Somalia within its internationally recognized borders," the ministry said.
It noted that the recognition of the 'Somaliland' region of the Federal Republic of Somalia contradicts norms and principles of international law and the UN Charter.
"Azerbaijan has gone through its own painful experience with foreign military occupation and separatism in its territories, in violation of international law. Guided by these principles and its own experience, the Republic of Azerbaijan remains firmly committed to the preservation of sovereignty, territorial integrity, and political independence of all states, and calls on the international community to act responsibly and in full compliance with international law," reads the statement.:


 
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