TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Ryder]

Israel needs to realize that if it continues to antagonize Türkiye it'll ultimately face a hostile secular nationalist Türkiye.

There's no way it will survive that. The Israeli strategy has always been centered around supporting self destructive Islamist factions which are both harmful to their own nations and also viewed negativity in the eyes of Western audiences.

Nazi Germany was inspired by the early Turkish Republic. Once Nazi Germany was defeated, Israel ironically became the closest thing to it. Especially in today's age, where nationalism has been completely crushed in all western nations.

Israel is forgetting that nearly everybody in Turkiye supports TRNC and Turkish Cypriots.

Cyprus is even more important to Turkiye than Syria or Iraq.

Not just some middle eastern sandbox its the Eastern Med sea itself.

It brings Turkiye to closer to everybody in the region thats what burns Israel so bad.

Israel wants control of the Middle East and the Eastern Med sea. Turkiye is a obstacle to its plans.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Thoughts?
To me, it either feels like Israel is trying to dominate the greeks or to push Greece and Cyprus into war with Turkey and then they will wash their hands of it just like how the Americans are doing with the Ukrainians and throw the weight to Europe to fund a long-lasting war

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2001287437465604363

Both sides are hoping to use the other side against Turkiye for their own personal benefit. The Jews will hope to use the greeks(goy) as cannon fodder to bait them into a war against Turkiye and then once the greeks are in a war against Turkiye, they will play them the same way the USA played Ukraine. And as the greeks lose men and material the jews will use it as an excuse to move more and more into current greek occupied territories.

While the greeks think that they will use the jews and the anglo american power they bring to fight there own wars for them. That the more conflict and troubles erdogan has with Isreal the more benefits and favours the greeks can obtain from the most powerful bloc on earth. via the jews they hope to gain favour with the anglo-americans and via their sucking off macron favour with the EU.

From a Turkish perspective the "greek case" needs to be seen via the lens of the Azerbaijan war. The armenians believed they would be protected via the Russian military and thus attacked Azerbaijan. Turkiye was a big enough reality that Russia nor Iran wanted to risk an all out war against us and thus allowed the war to largely remain Azerbaijan vs Armenia.

Turkiye should look at greek stupidity/aggression as an opportunity, what's important is that Turkiye is big enough that a direct Israeli attack is perceived as the zionists as a step to far. That would mean that the greeks once crossing the threshold can be decimated by the Turkish military. There must be no more half measures with these enemies anymore. In cyprus they attempted the genocide and we left them half the island, still to this day they attack us in every field possible.

 

[Ryder]

Both sides are hoping to use the other side against Turkiye for their own personal benefit. The Jews will hope to use the greeks(goy) as cannon fodder to bait them into a war against Turkiye and then once the greeks are in a war against Turkiye, they will play them the same way the USA played Ukraine. And as the greeks lose men and material the jews will use it as an excuse to move more and more into current greek occupied territories.

While the greeks think that they will use the jews and the anglo american power they bring to fight there own wars for them. That the more conflict and troubles erdogan has with Isreal the more benefits and favours the greeks can obtain from the most powerful bloc on earth. via the jews they hope to gain favour with the anglo-americans and via their sucking off macron favour with the EU.

From a Turkish perspective the "greek case" needs to be seen via the lens of the Azerbaijan war. The armenians believed they would be protected via the Russian military and thus attacked Azerbaijan. Turkiye was a big enough reality that Russia nor Iran wanted to risk an all out war against us and thus allowed the war to largely remain Azerbaijan vs Armenia.

Turkiye should look at greek stupidity/aggression as an opportunity, what's important is that Turkiye is big enough that a direct Israeli attack is perceived as the zionists as a step to far. That would mean that the greeks once crossing the threshold can be decimated by the Turkish military. There must be no more half measures with these enemies anymore. In cyprus they attempted the genocide and we left them half the island, still to this day they attack us in every field possible.

I can safely say Jews are the only ones who mastered how to play chess while the rest play checkers.

 

[Ryder]

Thoughts?
To me, it either feels like Israel is trying to dominate the greeks or to push Greece and Cyprus into war with Turkey and then they will wash their hands of it just like how the Americans are doing with the Ukrainians and throw the weight to Europe to fund a long-lasting war

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2001287437465604363

When the Ottomans began to conquer and win the Jews backed the Sultans. In return the Sultans granted them benefits.

As the Ottoman Empire began to crumble the Jews began to back its enemies.

They play chess and are willing to wait for centuries.

Thats why Israel hasnt collapsed they play the game. I do believe Arab incompetence and backstabbing also plays a role why the Israelis won so many wars.

 

[begturan]

Both sides are hoping to use the other side against Turkiye for their own personal benefit. The Jews will hope to use the greeks(goy) as cannon fodder to bait them into a war against Turkiye and then once the greeks are in a war against Turkiye, they will play them the same way the USA played Ukraine. And as the greeks lose men and material the jews will use it as an excuse to move more and more into current greek occupied territories.

While the greeks think that they will use the jews and the anglo american power they bring to fight there own wars for them. That the more conflict and troubles erdogan has with Isreal the more benefits and favours the greeks can obtain from the most powerful bloc on earth. via the jews they hope to gain favour with the anglo-americans and via their sucking off macron favour with the EU.

From a Turkish perspective the "greek case" needs to be seen via the lens of the Azerbaijan war. The armenians believed they would be protected via the Russian military and thus attacked Azerbaijan. Turkiye was a big enough reality that Russia nor Iran wanted to risk an all out war against us and thus allowed the war to largely remain Azerbaijan vs Armenia.

Turkiye should look at greek stupidity/aggression as an opportunity, what's important is that Turkiye is big enough that a direct Israeli attack is perceived as the zionists as a step to far. That would mean that the greeks once crossing the threshold can be decimated by the Turkish military. There must be no more half measures with these enemies anymore. In cyprus they attempted the genocide and we left them half the island, still to this day they attack us in every field possible.

With the Russian threat facing Europe, it would be sheer suicide for the Greeks to go to war with the Turks. Neither Israel, which is egging them on, nor America, nor Europe could save Greece. I don't think they would commit such a folly.

Israel has declared Cyprus a holy land due to its geopolitical location. Cyprus is a very strategic place for both controlling the Eastern Mediterranean and accessing the region's oil/gas reserves. They are pursuing a deep strategy to deceive the foolish Greeks and possess the island for themselves.

 

[mehmed beg]

As I have said before, though my massage was deleted due for whatever reason, Greeks as any Orthodox and Oriental Christians would do anything just to get the chance to annihilate Muslims.
Weather Israel or Russia gain control over them it doesn't matter, of course Russia would be preferable.
It is always the same story with them.
Hopefully, Jewery will destroy them completely in any possible way. That nasty little country called Greece has always been subsidised just for this situation. Otherwise, what normal person would endlessly finance such fraudsters?
Hopefully, Jewery buys every single thing in Cyprus and make them domestic help. I am sure that Greeks would be happy even with that, just if such situation would pose a threat to the Turks .
I know this kind of minde very well.

 

[Strong AI]

A russian Orlan UAV crashed in Kocaeli province.

So went it through undetected this time?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2002001718624575913

 

[Iskander]

America discovered the Caspian Sea

According to the article "The Caspian Sea Opens for the US" in The National Interest magazine, Azerbaijan occupies a unique strategic position in the South Caucasus, offering Washington opportunities in the areas of trade, energy security, and regional deterrence.

Author Joseph Einstein notes that "Baku controls a key part of the Middle Corridor—the only land route from Europe to Asia that does not pass through Russia and Iran."

He also notes that a stable transit route through Azerbaijan opens new opportunities for Central Asia and offers an alternative to China's control of rare earth elements: "Any stable trade route to Central Asia that does not pass through Russia, China, and Iran must pass through Azerbaijan." The publication emphasizes that Baku is now becoming a central entry point and a regional leader.

"Azerbaijan is not simply a country dominated by its larger neighbors." This also presents Washington with a rare strategic opportunity with immediate implications for trade, energy security, and regional deterrence. Baku supplies natural gas to Europe and has helped ease tensions between Jerusalem and Ankara. The publication notes that Azerbaijan has become a bridge to Central Asia, which the United States has recently prioritized in its search for alternatives to Chinese rare earth minerals.
The author notes that the time has come to repeal Section 907 of the Freedom Support Act. He calls on Washington to "view Azerbaijan not just as another peripheral partner, but as the key state it is becoming. Such opportunities rarely remain open for long."

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://nationalinterest.org/blog/silk-road-rivalries/the-caspian-sea-is-open-to-the-united-states&ved=2ahUKEwid96n7tcyRAxX2gf0HHeN1HnAQFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2aaghPlx4uQ_r-J5LrJy1E

В США превозносят Азербайджан

haqqin.az

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Erdogan’s S-400 Trouble Was of His Own Making

"Turkey’s president is learning the hard way that nationalist posturing makes for bad foreign policy," writes Bobby Ghosh

time.com

"The Turkish opposition will not let voters forget it. Neither should anyone else who watches a proud nation’s foreign policy held hostage to one man’s ego."

He really does have a special ability to get us into unnecessary predicaments.

I don't know what triggered it, but since the end of 2020 we've seen nothing but empty threats. We've warned YPG million times of an imminent operation and haven't made a single move. Not to mention the countless incidents in recent times. I've lost all faith in this administration.

If Erdoğan doesn't want to resign, he should at least reshuffle the government, because they're clearly incapable of running the country.

 

[Iskander]

Israel became the first and, so far, only country to re cognize Somaliland's independence. Why does Israel need an Islamic state that no country has officially recognized for 34 years?
Somaliland is probably the poorest country in the world. Somaliland is an Islamic country with a Sharia-based legal system, like Iran, and, according to some sources, persecutes people of other religious faiths, including Christians.
I've never been interested in Somaliland, and I'm generally unfamiliar with the region.

Theysay the Israelis will cooperate in developing Somaliland's agriculture.,
YeahI believed it right away

Ход конем Израиля против Турции: Сомалиленд - горячая тема

haqqin.az

 

[Lool]

Israel became the first and, so far, only country to re cognize Somaliland's independence. Why does Israel need an Islamic state that no country has officially recognized for 34 years?
Somaliland is probably the poorest country in the world. Somaliland is an Islamic country with a Sharia-based legal system, like Iran, and, according to some sources, persecutes people of other religious faiths, including Christians.
I've never been interested in Somaliland, and I'm generally unfamiliar with the region.

Theysay the Israelis will cooperate in developing Somaliland's agriculture.,
YeahI believed it right away

Ход конем Израиля против Турции: Сомалиленд - горячая тема

haqqin.az

Israel's recognition of Somaliland has 6 main goals
1- A clear message to growing Turkish influence in the region; particularly when the first Turkish drilling ship is set to start oil exploration within the early months of 2026
2- Keeping a 24-hour surveillance over the spaceport that Turkey is planning to build in Somalia
3- Aiding UAE's plans in dividing the African horn into smaller nations that both the UAE and Israel can infiltrate and control
4- Control over vital sea shipping routes and oil shipping routes
5- Having an Israeli military base close to Israeli areas of interests (areas where Israeli allies are located) such as the RSF in Sudan, and UAE-backed militias in Yemen
6- The possible relocation of Gazans into Somaliland

They are recently becoming extremely aggressive in their foreign policy and arent even bothering in hiding their true intentions anymore because Turkey toppled Assad and liberated Sudan's capital from the RSF; Events which the Israelis didnt want to see in the first place. If they dont act immediately to fullfill their satanic agendas, within the next 5-10 years, Turkey may actually control most of the horn of Africa; something Israel will never allow to happen

 

[Ryder]

Israel and UAE are basically in bed with each other.

Its even worse how their plans are all about surrounding Turkiye.

 

[AlperTunga]

I am following the Israeli media. They are not at all happy about our foothold in Somalia. That explains why they took this strategic decision. They want to encircle and suffocate Turkey. I am angry that we have not been able to resolve that Somaliland issue so far. Somaliland is much more strategic than Somalia itself. Just like in Libya we only half did it there. Because we dont use hard power enough. It was right to use soft power in Somalia but against the insurgence from Somaliland we should have responded very harshly. Only soft power, training locals etc. gdoes not bring much if we dont complement it with determined action of our own forces if needed. And whenever they get involved we should make sure the other side suffers such losses that no one dares to challenge us once we set foot somewhere. And if we are not ready to do some sacrifices in such cases we should just stay within our borders!

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

I am following the Israeli media. They are not at all happy about our foothold in Somalia. That explains why they took this strategic decision. They want to encircle and suffocate Turkey. I am angry that we have not been able to resolve that Somaliland issue so far. Somaliland is much more strategic than Somalia itself. Just like in Libya we only half did it there. Because we dont use hard power enough. It was right to use soft power in Somalia but against the insurgence from Somaliland we should have responded very harshly. Only soft power, training locals etc. gdoes not bring much if we dont complement it with determined action of our own forces if needed. And whenever they get involved we should make sure the other side suffers such losses that no one dares to challenge us once we set foot somewhere. And if we are not ready to do some sacrifices in such cases we should just stay within our borders!

Today one of the official Turkish military accounts shared some funny BS.

"Güç silahta değildir! Asıl güç, masumların size duyduğu güvendir"

"Power is not in weapons! True power lies in the dimension of trust innocents have for you."

I just thought to my self, omg...

The Country with the biggest guns dictate whats up when it comes to showing force. I don't know why but Türkiye LOVES doing half assed stuff...

 

[Lool]

I am following the Israeli media. They are not at all happy about our foothold in Somalia. That explains why they took this strategic decision. They want to encircle and suffocate Turkey. I am angry that we have not been able to resolve that Somaliland issue so far. Somaliland is much more strategic than Somalia itself. Just like in Libya we only half did it there. Because we dont use hard power enough. It was right to use soft power in Somalia but against the insurgence from Somaliland we should have responded very harshly. Only soft power, training locals etc. gdoes not bring much if we dont complement it with determined action of our own forces if needed. And whenever they get involved we should make sure the other side suffers such losses that no one dares to challenge us once we set foot somewhere. And if we are not ready to do some sacrifices in such cases we should just stay within our borders!

You see, the main problem in Somalia is that it is under tribal rule; i-e, clans fighting over power and are refusing to share it with other clans.

Do you know why Al-shabab terrorists are still freely roaming in Somalia even though Turkey, USA, Egypt, Russia, and even China are sending loads of weapons everyday? It is because all of the weapons and training are being concentrated into one or two clans that rules Somalia, to which the current PM belongs to.

Long ago, I read in a Reuters article, how Turkish officials were frustrated by the Somalian govt for always sending people from the same clan to undergo security training in Turkey!

Moreover, Turkey can act militarily and could have solve the somaliland issue alone; however, that would absolutely be used by Turkey's adversaries to issue sanctions and just hurt Turkey one way or another. Which then creates the question of whether the price that Turkey will pay to solve the Somaliland issue worth it or not? Mind you that Somalia isnt completely loyal to Turkey and can backstab it at any moment purely from the fact that it is ruled by tribal forces and has more than 4 nations' military bases on its land. Therefore, the answer any govt will eventually reach is that any price to solve Somalia's issues wont be worth it since the core problem of Somalia hasnt been solved. In other words, you solved somaliland issue today, but tomorrow a new somaliland will emerge under a different alias since the core problem hasnt been solved

 

[Asena_great]

Today one of the official Turkish military accounts shared some funny BS.

"Güç silahta değildir! Asıl güç, masumların size duyduğu güvendir"

"Power is not in weapons! True power lies in the dimension of trust innocents have for you."

I just thought to my self, omg...

The Country with the biggest guns dictate whats up when it comes to showing force. I don't know why but Türkiye LOVES doing half assed stuff...

tarikat guy for sure. islamist are poison everywhere

 

[GoatsMilk]

I am following the Israeli media. They are not at all happy about our foothold in Somalia. That explains why they took this strategic decision. They want to encircle and suffocate Turkey. I am angry that we have not been able to resolve that Somaliland issue so far. Somaliland is much more strategic than Somalia itself. Just like in Libya we only half did it there. Because we dont use hard power enough. It was right to use soft power in Somalia but against the insurgence from Somaliland we should have responded very harshly. Only soft power, training locals etc. gdoes not bring much if we dont complement it with determined action of our own forces if needed. And whenever they get involved we should make sure the other side suffers such losses that no one dares to challenge us once we set foot somewhere. And if we are not ready to do some sacrifices in such cases we should just stay within our borders!

Its a limitation of power. Have your own air force, hundreds of autonomous fighter drones and a massive collection of other military tools and its a different proposition. Isreal has a top tier military thanks to endless goy support and politically she can commit open genocide and she receives no sanctions, no embargoes, no threats of military action etc.

This is why i say we are at a point now where we really need 10 to 20 years, then by all means lets play this direct and open war game. Turkiye has to do what she can to a point to limit the designs against her during this period, like the kurdistan project, the greek french/isreali alliance. The Russian instigations, the american/EU support for all of our adversaries, etc.

Right now Turkiye is going to have to bite the bullet, but if there was ever a time for strategic patience, its right now. Every single one of enemies knows what coming. A limited Shitty bunch of inaccurate ballistic missiles that had most of the western world working to intercept was enough to make the Isrealis shit their little genocidal panties. Play it smart now, war is coming that is 100% certain since they wish to dominate the region and Turks never let anyone dominate anything without war first.

Culturally in order for this war to truly be fought the way it needs to be fought, Turkish identity needs to elevated. Nationalism among the Turks must be reinforced to such a degree that when the war comes every Turk will find himself ready to make the required sacrifice. Islam must be used to bring all the non-Turk Muslims into the sphere of the Turks, it must not be used to allow minorities who hates Turks, who side with the enemy to raise themselves above the position of the Turks and then to beat him down with their "piety".

War is 100% coming, but for the Turks its better it comes later then sooner. But if you look at our history massive alliances forming against us and the Turk being able to overcome them is nothing new.

The enemy is like a vampire, you have to invite him in before he can harm you. The enemy right now and arguably since the onset of the syrian civil war has been hoping that Turkiye falls into their traps.

Let me give one example, back when davidson was working the americans were implying that Turkiye had to right to intervene to defend herself. Basically egging Turkiye on to invade Syria. Davidson kept saying that Turkiye is happy to put assad to bed provided Turkiye is given authorisation by the UN security council and if not by them then by NATO herself. The americans wouldn't provide neither. Because the plan was for Turkiye to enter Syria the way Saddam entered Kuwait and then they would have used it as an excuse to call us an invader and then attack us, or at the very least drag us into a quagmire we can not easily leave.

If you pay attention to everything that happened over Syria, the americans put many "fatal" traps in front of Turkiye and fortunately none were stepped on. For all of the dumb shit erdogan does, he never does anything that will risk his throne, that narcissistic character of his, his love of power, wealth and status means he's relatively risk adverse. Most of the time he will only act when he realises to not act is more dangerous.

 

[Ryder]

You see, the main problem in Somalia is that it is under tribal rule; i-e, clans fighting over power and are refusing to share it with other clans.

Do you know why Al-shabab terrorists are still freely roaming in Somalia even though Turkey, USA, Egypt, Russia, and even China are sending loads of weapons everyday? It is because all of the weapons and training are being concentrated into one or two clans that rules Somalia, to which the current PM belongs to.

Long ago, I read in a Reuters article, how Turkish officials were frustrated by the Somalian govt for always sending people from the same clan to undergo security training in Turkey!

Moreover, Turkey can act militarily and could have solve the somaliland issue alone; however, that would absolutely be used by Turkey's adversaries to issue sanctions and just hurt Turkey one way or another. Which then creates the question of whether the price that Turkey will pay to solve the Somaliland issue worth it or not? Mind you that Somalia isnt completely loyal to Turkey and can backstab it at any moment purely from the fact that it is ruled by tribal forces and has more than 4 nations' military bases on its land. Therefore, the answer any govt will eventually reach is that any price to solve Somalia's issues wont be worth it since the core problem of Somalia hasnt been solved. In other words, you solved somaliland issue today, but tomorrow a new somaliland will emerge under a different alias since the core problem hasnt been solved

Somalia is a trainwreck. Doesnt matter if Turkiye solves it militarily.

They take their clans, tribal lineages too serious.

Not to mention the corruption that is so rife.

I find Somalia to be better warriors to train than Arabs. All they need is unity, cohesiveness it is easier said than done.

Somalis are more braver than the Arabs and Kurds. Italians, French, Ethiopians and the British partitioned their lands they still fought back regardless.

I think Turkish officers fustrations mainly mirror Hayreddin Barbarossa's experience with Arab troops. Same story in the Karabag war defeat in the 90s one Turkish officer said that Azerbaijanis are the Poets and writers of the Turkic world not soldiers. Azerbaijan, 30 years later proved us all wrong that they can be soldiers.

 

[AlperTunga]

Its a limitation of power. Have your own air force, hundreds of autonomous fighter drones and a massive collection of other military tools and its a different proposition. Isreal has a top tier military thanks to endless goy support and politically she can commit open genocide and she receives no sanctions, no embargoes, no threats of military action etc.

This is why i say we are at a point now where we really need 10 to 20 years, then by all means lets play this direct and open war game. Turkiye has to do what she can to a point to limit the designs against her during this period, like the kurdistan project, the greek french/isreali alliance. The Russian instigations, the american/EU support for all of our adversaries, etc.

Right now Turkiye is going to have to bite the bullet, but if there was ever a time for strategic patience, its right now. Every single one of enemies knows what coming. A limited Shitty bunch of inaccurate ballistic missiles that had most of the western world working to intercept was enough to make the Isrealis shit their little genocidal panties. Play it smart now, war is coming that is 100% certain since they wish to dominate the region and Turks never let anyone dominate anything without war first.

Culturally in order for this war to truly be fought the way it needs to be fought, Turkish identity needs to elevated. Nationalism among the Turks must be reinforced to such a degree that when the war comes every Turk will find himself ready to make the required sacrifice. Islam must be used to bring all the non-Turk Muslims into the sphere of the Turks, it must not be used to allow minorities who hates Turks, who side with the enemy to raise themselves above the position of the Turks and then to beat him down with their "piety".

War is 100% coming, but for the Turks its better it comes later then sooner. But if you look at our history massive alliances forming against us and the Turk being able to overcome them is nothing new.

The enemy is like a vampire, you have to invite him in before he can harm you. The enemy right now and arguably since the onset of the syrian civil war has been hoping that Turkiye falls into their traps.

Let me give one example, back when davidson was working the americans were implying that Turkiye had to right to intervene to defend herself. Basically egging Turkiye on to invade Syria. Davidson kept saying that Turkiye is happy to put assad to bed provided Turkiye is given authorisation by the UN security council and if not by them then by NATO herself. The americans wouldn't provide neither. Because the plan was for Turkiye to enter Syria the way Saddam entered Kuwait and then they would have used it as an excuse to call us an invader and then attack us, or at the very least drag us into a quagmire we can not easily leave.

If you pay attention to everything that happened over Syria, the americans put many "fatal" traps in front of Turkiye and fortunately none were stepped on. For all of the dumb shit erdogan does, he never does anything that will risk his throne, that narcissistic character of his, his love of power, wealth and status means he's relatively risk adverse. Most of the time he will only act when he realises to not act is more dangerous.

I agree to most of the above. But we should‘nt need top tier military equipment to beat some tribal insurgents. Otherwise we risk ending up like America. Top modern weapons and equipment but no real land force because they are unwilling to fight. We should be ready to die not only to defend our motherland but also to gain influence, wealth, and strategic benefits elsewhere. This is what british empire did and what our ancestors did. No half done things please.