TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

[Yasar_TR]

Were you guys aware that the Brazilian company Akaer helped with this project?

They also consulted on HAVASOJ as some members here have said.

I keep on seeing employees who worked on it now working at UAE companies aircraft projects and it’s interesting to see.

If you read the early pages of this thread, you would have known that it was discussed here that Akaer was instrumental in the airframe design of certain parts of Hurjet. They may have even been involved in an advisory capacity in the design of KAAN airframe. But that is not confirmed.
As you may know, Akaer was involved in the airframe design of Gripen E and F in a big way, especially with the introduction of the more powerful f414 engine, to make sure the plane was one of the most agile there is.

 

[Philip the Arab]

If you read the early pages of this thread, you would have known that it was discussed here that Akaer was instrumental in the airframe design of certain parts of Hurjet. They may have even been involved in an advisory capacity in the design of KAAN airframe. But that is not confirmed.
As you may know, Akaer was involved in the airframe design of Gripen E and F in a big way, especially with the introduction of the more powerful f414 engine, to make sure the plane was one of the most agile there is.

Yeah, I did search after I posted but then I figured it was too late to delete. My apologies.

 

[Sanchez]

TAI and Airbus Spain will sign another deal today for Hürjet. One more step.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948267793456976375

 

[TheInsider]

TUSAS will deliver the first Hurjet to Spain in Q1 2028.

 

[Saithan]

Could the Hürjet purchase be related to the second LHD/aircraft carrier with Spain ? I mean kinda like a trade for both countries

 

[Pokemonte13]

Could the Hürjet purchase be related to the second LHD/aircraft carrier with Spain ? I mean kinda like a trade for both countries

we don't know if that will happen but spain needs new trainers like we do what im wondering which aircraft they will put on their LHD?

 

[Saithan]

Yea, but the trade is beneficial for both countries. While Spain gets their trainer jet and their own avionics later on. The fact that they will use and train with our avionics means we'll get international recognition. Plus Spain gets something in return like the LHD purchase. Both parties benefit greatly from this trade. Imo Turkey gainsmmore in the form of international recognition.

 

[Ripley]

Could the Hürjet purchase be related to the second LHD/aircraft carrier with Spain ? I mean kinda like a trade for both countries

When Spain’s interest at Hürjet first came out, it was rumored that the sale would have involved a transfer of A400s destined for Spain to Turkey in exchange of 24 Hürjets.
I believe the new LHD is an independent project, at the moment anyways.
At any rate, the cooperation between two progressing quite well so far. Hope we further develop on this and get some joint projects on the line as well

 

[Pokemonte13]

When Spain’s interest at Hürjet first came out, it was rumored that the sale would have involved a transfer of A400s destined for Spain to Turkey in exchange of 24 Hürjets.
I believe the new LHD is an independent project, at the moment anyways.
At any rate, the cooperation between two progressing quite well so far. Hope we further develop on this and get some joint projects on the line as well

Honestly give me some extra a400 we currently have 11 but need like 25-35 no offense to navy but what more do they want oh right f*cking nuclear(likely ballistic) submarine and army and airforce get the crumbs of the cake

 

[Saithan]

Honestly give me some extra a400 we currently have 11 but need like 25-35 no offense to navy but what more do they want oh right f*cking nuclear(likely ballistic) submarine and army and airforce get the crumbs of the cake

But isn't it because KKK and HvKK aren't as good at planning executing as DzKK ? Also, government may have embargoed those two forces because of their off the shelf purchases for so long

 

[Sanchez]

Hürjet flew at 1.2 Mach speed in April.

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I changed my mind. Hürjet will be a great stand in and a stopgap on the way to Kaan.

 

[hugh]

I changed my mind. Hürjet will be a great stand in and a stopgap on the way to Kaan.

in the magazine, they say it has become the fastest jet trainer in the world. is that true? T-50 has 1.5mach top speed but I don't if that's only for the light attack version or for both configurations.

 

[Sanchez]

I believe...

 

[Sanchez]

Well that's weird.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1958607953252294876

 

[Zafer]

Well that's weird.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1958607953252294876

It was possible, now it is probable.

 

[boredaf]

How are you going to fly the Freedom Trainer(Hürjet) without an engine?

SNC unveils Freedom Trainer, latest entrant to Navy competition - Breaking Defense

SNC is entering a crowded field for the Navy's Undergraduate Jet Training System program, going up against teams led by Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Textron and a little-known firm called Stavatti.

breakingdefense.com

I don't understand how this jet has anything to do with Hürjet or TAI at all, other than company working with TAI almost 10 years ago. The plane is a two engine plane, with an engine (Williams FJ44) that puts out 3.6k thrust at its most powerful version. There is also no mention of TAI or Hürjet anywhere on the article or the company's website, at all. AND they are giving the full data rights to US Navy if they are selected.

 

[TR_123456]

I don't understand how this jet has anything to do with Hürjet or TAI at all, other than company working with TAI almost 10 years ago. The plane is a two engine plane, with an engine (Williams FJ44) that puts out 3.6k thrust at its most powerful version. There is also no mention of TAI or Hürjet anywhere on the article or the company's website, at all. AND they are giving the full data rights to US Navy if they are selected.

Looks like you guys are right but it is weird though.
The core design and the name.

 

[boredaf]

Looks like you guys are right but it is weird though.
The core design and the name.

I mean name isn't weird at all, given how obsessed with "freedom" the yanks are and how they name even most random things after that, and, all trainers look like one another, besides, I would say design is fundamentally different as it is a two engine design in the first place.

 

[TR_123456]

I mean name isn't weird at all, given how obsessed with "freedom" the yanks are and how they name even most random things after that, and, all trainers look like one another, besides, I would say design is fundamentally different as it is a two engine design in the first place.

They furthered the design from the Hürjets original design.

''SNC’s proposed twin-engine, two-seat aircraft, called the “Freedom Trainer,” draws from a design the company pioneered years ago with Turkish Aerospace Industries, a company official told Breaking Defense today. SNC in the time since continued to develop the jet and now plans to offer it in hopes of becoming the prime contractor for UJTS.''

SNC unveils Freedom Trainer, latest entrant to Navy competition - Breaking Defense

SNC is entering a crowded field for the Navy's Undergraduate Jet Training System program, going up against teams led by Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Textron and a little-known firm called Stavatti.

breakingdefense.com

 

[boredaf]

They furthered the design from the Hürjets original design.

''SNC’s proposed twin-engine, two-seat aircraft, called the “Freedom Trainer,” draws from a design the company pioneered years ago with Turkish Aerospace Industries, a company official told Breaking Defense today. SNC in the time since continued to develop the jet and now plans to offer it in hopes of becoming the prime contractor for UJTS.''

SNC unveils Freedom Trainer, latest entrant to Navy competition - Breaking Defense

SNC is entering a crowded field for the Navy's Undergraduate Jet Training System program, going up against teams led by Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Textron and a little-known firm called Stavatti.

breakingdefense.com

That's what I meant by "worked with TAI almost 10 years ago", there is nothing to indicate that this proposal has anything to do with Hürjet or TAI, or, we get anything out of it whatsoever. It is completely unrelated on the face of it.