Defence Fair IDEF 2023

[Sanchez]

Those 40mm don't look belt fed, am I seeing wrong? What's up with that?

They aren't. That's Repkon's infantry grenade launcher RDS40-MGL so this UGV has 12 shots before it needs to be reloaded by hand..

Most of the UGVs are pretty lackluster, not gonna lie...

 

[Cabatli_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683806834518360064

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Robit Azab-150 and 200

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683833425164132353

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Ulaq Kama

• 6,37m length overall
• 50+knots speed
• 20+knots operational speed
• 200kg explosive
• 1300kg totall mass
• Semi-submerged form, just 30cm above sea level
• 200nm range
• Swarm capability

@defenceturkey

It seems Havelsan and Ares USV's both are semi-submerged form with low RCS which is a super advantage.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Titra PARS

 

[Cabatli_TR]

BMC Power and Radarsan signed a deal

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683828481862377472

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Havelsan Çaka!

Çaka is able to dive under the water like a submarine and become totally hidden from threat. This concept will totally change everything in naval warfare. This capability is not a thing human-being has ever tested in real environment and no warship has a self defence against such a surprise attack.

Congratulations Havelsan and Turkish engineer. You all made us very proud.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683859342485753858

 

[Slayer]

Havelsan Çaka!

Çaka is able to dive under the water like a submarine and become totally hidden from threat. This concept will totally change everything in naval warfare. This capability is not a thing human-being has ever tested in real environment and no warship has a self defence against such a surprise attack.

Congratulations Havelsan and Turkish engineer. You all made us very proud.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683859342485753858

Why resurface and expose itself to CIWS when it can remain submerged in terminal phase?

Any idea about how deep it can go?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Why resurface and expose itself to CIWS when it can remain submerged in terminal phase?

Any idea about how deep it can go?

When product matures and enters into inventory, There will probably be strike modes for terminal phase. I think that operator can select attack mode as being submerged or semi-submerged depending on threat type. Promotional footage doesn't usually show full capability of the products. We will have more info about such systems when our friends visit the fair and ask some detail technical questions about systems.

 

[Quasar]

 

[Cabatli_TR]

BMC Power and Işbir will develop military grade generators using BMC Power domestic engines.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683853272145182721

 

[UkroTurk]

Why resurface and expose itself to CIWS when it can remain submerged in terminal phase?

Any idea about how deep it can go?

Which CIWS could detect a target on the sea level? As far as i know just Phalanx. I think RIM-116 couldn't engage on the sea level.

But the problem is the USVs are attacking swarmly like wolfpack. How many CIWS does a warship have?

So VLS of hellfire could stop this attack.

 

[Anmdt]

Why resurface and expose itself to CIWS when it can remain submerged in terminal phase?

Any idea about how deep it can go?

Few meters, sufficiently deep to not leave a noticable trail - wake on the surface.

It is not a torpedo, so it may not home onto a target like a torpedo. However i believe i will re-dive in the latest terminal phase to inflict maximum damage on the target.

This is the beginning, there is more than what is shown at IDEF. There will be torpedo launching USVs as well. Different kinds of torpedoes i am speaking about.

As a last note; Aselsan's Albatros has been long tested in kamikaze mode. If you watch earlier test videos you would easily notice the kamikaze engagement.

 

[Quasar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683902632396570624

 

[uçuyorum]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683902632396570624

It’s not hisar RF on the sign it’s Regular Hisar O. And 100km is probably Siper Max range but 70+ still covers 100 could be effective range.

 

[Quasar]

It’s not hisar RF on the sign it’s Regular Hisar O. And 100km is probably Siper Max range but 70+ still covers 100 could be effective range.

in fact what ı care the most is Siper has two way data link and KKS i.e GPS.... lets put it in this way latest AIM 120D has them

 

[uçuyorum]

in fact what ı care the most is Siper has two way data link and KKS i.e GPS.... lets put it in this way latest AIM 120D has them

So does Gökdoğan, plus didn't we know siper had 2 way datalink before?

 

[Afif]

Apperantly, it means top-notch guidance system.


A. Two way data link means superior resistance to ECM.

B. GPS/GNSS cpupled with INS reduces the in-flight alignment errors. Thus, resulting in more efficient trajectory.



Edit-However, I suspect AIM-120D is still in a league of its own. Given the amount of money, research, time and experience it has benefited from.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683866134389436418

 

[TheInsider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683902632396570624

This is the correct data. The 20+km range version of the info tag belongs to Hisar-O, not the Hisar-O+. 25+km range and 15km+ altitude can be translated to 40+km range and 10+km altitude.