Defence Fair IDEF 2025 News & Discussion Updates

[Pokemonte13]

Ah Turkish skynet becomes reality I wonder if those other calibre are proximity or airburst

 

[Kaan Azman]

Do we have members who will attend IDEF 2025?
Would be nice if we could pass on some questions.

Yeah, I wonder about a few calibers myself

 

[mTT]

Roketsan KARA ATMACA -

Surface-To-Surface Cruise Missile​

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946909986556109142

 

[Tornadoss]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946965402606588007

Another one

 

[CAN_TR]

Air launched BORA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1945513465289855145

Looks like a Ramjet powered missile, but is Gökhan a joint project between Tübitak SAGE and Roketsan?
"High precision beyond visual range." doesn't sound like a surface to air missile.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1945876328240079287

Submarine launched ATMACA.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946241063905059207

SIMSEK UFA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946603920966475854

IHA-300

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946965402606588007

 

[CAN_TR]

They already tested sub-atmaca, but afaik it was not present in any fair yet. I still hope it will be sub-gezgin.

Turkish Navy test-fires submarine-launched version of Atmaca missile for the first time - Naval News

On March 12, 2025, Turkish MoD announced the successful test-firing of the submarine-launched version Atmaca anti-ship missile.

www.navalnews.com

Well Roketsan is sharing one teaser daily on X since July 16th, probably tomorrow will be the last one. My guess Gezgin.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Air launched BORA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1945513465289855145

Looks like a Ramjet powered missile, but is Gökhan a joint project between Tübitak SAGE and Roketsan?
"High precision beyond visual range." doesn't sound like a surface to air missile.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1945876328240079287

-- We cant lunch big missiles like Bora from fighter aircraft because we dont have one fighter jet . F16 is 1 engine small and cant take 4 ton ballistic missile under his belly , F4 perhaps can but they are retireing and needs modification
We perhaps can lunch them from transport aircrafts like A400 .
For fighter jets we need Mig 31 or F15 or our future KAAN

 

[Pokemonte13]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1947220004551729507

New Burc
New Pars Scout 6x6

 

[Sanchez]

Already my highlight of this years IDEF. (Not my picture)

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Is that the Anzatsan IFV? Best AFV in the whole world.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Are we sure that it is Burc, because the turret looks a lot different? Or does Roketsan plan a Burc product family?

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Biggest changes are the cannon still a 20mm but not rotating and is that a new missle maybe levent also no airburst
i think the radar works better if its not constantly rotating with the turret
Still would have loved to see airburst

 

[Pokemonte13]

Is that the Anzatsan IFV? Best AFV in the whole world.

really my n***a

 

[Pokemonte13]

Yeah it looks like that, but can it be effective without airburst? Maybe MKE plans to produce airburst too. I don't think Aselsan will produce for every caliber out there ATOM. And imo there is a size limit for ATOM.

Depends on target for like fpv probably not but for like a shahed or something in that size or a bit smaller yes also way cheaper than airburst but i think if they want to they can add it but not sure if it needs an extra fire control radar for distance calculation or if the aesa pannels are enough

 

[Sanchez]

Are we sure that it is Burc, because the turret looks a lot different? Or does Roketsan plan a Burc product family?

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Pretty sure that's a 30mm gun. And Burç was hardly a product. It's a proof of concept at best.

 

[Pokemonte13]

if its 30 mm than it can have at least proximity fuze rounds

 

[Tornadoss]

Are we sure that it is Burc, because the turret looks a lot different? Or does Roketsan plan a Burc product family?

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It seems it's the same turret

 

[Sanchez]

if its 30 mm than it can have at least proximity fuze rounds

There's no 30mm ATOM yet. Thinking about it, do we have anyone producing 30x113mm rounds in Turkey? @Strong AI

 

[Pokemonte13]

There's no 30mm ATOM yet. Thinking about it, do we have anyone producing 30x113mm rounds in Turkey? @Strong AI

Airburst and proximity are different

 

[Pokemonte13]

Actually what i don't understand is, why don't they just integrate Korkut-25 with it?

maybe price is to high and if this is more against larger drones why not
Also i think would be better if they just made a microwave gun would have a greater effect area and would just fry the electronics even with fiberglass

 

[Pokemonte13]

Like this?

wasn't this ejderha but range is a bit limited even less then alka i belive

 

[TheInsider]

30x113 is a small caliber, but I think 30mmx113 airburst is still doable. 25mm ATOM is different though, it just fragments, hope that some of the shrapnels hit the targets.