Defence Fair IDEF 2025 News & Discussion Updates

[Huelague]

SOM-J for Kaan.

J for F-35, M version for Kaan.

 

[AlperTunga]

I am very much excited and proud about the new developments in IDEF. However, I also want to know where do we stand compared to other countries? Is Tayfun Block 4 better than anything Iran or North Korea in terms of precision? How about France? Regarding ER-300 is it among top five in the world given its 500km range or many other countries have it? On drone technology, Ukraine seems to be able to strike Russia at 1000km distance effectively. Where do we stand there especially with kamikaze and loitering drones like those of Israel? We seem to have bought too many bayraktar drones which are not effective against countries with functioning AD systems. It seems to me there is no useful, objective info on these in internet. I can find either very technical individual analysis of similar systems or just endless boasting. Anyone aware of a source with comparative analysis?

 

[TheInsider]

Our precision is far better than Iran and NK against stationary targets. France is not a big player when it comes to ballistic missiles. They only have M51 SLBM that is a submarine launched intercontinental ballistic missile for nuclear weapons. MBDA France is working on a MRBM but we haven't seen anything yet. Roketsans precision is proven with tests, and Roketsan has its own proprietary guidance technology that is %100 GPS free. Against big moving targets like big navy vessels we don't know the current level as it is classified data. If we look at Rocketry i don't know any missile comparable to Tayfun block 1 in the same payload and weight. Its range is officially announced at 800km. It carries around a 1000-pound warhead to that distance while weighing only 2300kg. This shows our solid fuel rocket motor design, fuel formulation, and composite material usage are at the forefront compared to competitors.

IHA-300ER is among the top five, as there are not a lot of countries with that capability. We don't have kamikaze drones similar to Russian Geran and Israel's Harop due to mistakes in planning and execution of Kargı project. It is a weakness it must be adressed. For smaller Kamikaze drones and loitering munitions we have many options.

 

[zio]

Is there anyone who think that F-35 can use amraam D missile against J-20 or J-35,of course can not,so A to A missiles would go to two categories one is short range less than 50 miles and the other is more than 200 miles,very long range.short range ones against 5 th generation fighters,very long ranges against tankers,soj aircrafts,awacs etc.. sooner or later this will happen.Gökhan and new roketsan AA missile are useless against greek or israel F-35,so we are on the wrong pathway.lets call it save the day.