Defence Fair IDEF 2025 News & Discussion Updates

[Yasar_TR]

Do you think GE can put some pressure on them?

They certainly will. It will strengthen our position and give us a head start. But we still need to twist the arms of those in the Congress.

 

[Pokemonte13]

They changed korkut 25 into trailer and new aesa layout

 

[Oublious]

What is SOM-M?

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948058425298194617

 

[Sanchez]

What is SOM-M?

SOM-J for Kaan.

 

[Huelague]

SOM-J for Kaan.

J for F-35, M version for Kaan.

 

[AlperTunga]

I am very much excited and proud about the new developments in IDEF. However, I also want to know where do we stand compared to other countries? Is Tayfun Block 4 better than anything Iran or North Korea in terms of precision? How about France? Regarding ER-300 is it among top five in the world given its 500km range or many other countries have it? On drone technology, Ukraine seems to be able to strike Russia at 1000km distance effectively. Where do we stand there especially with kamikaze and loitering drones like those of Israel? We seem to have bought too many bayraktar drones which are not effective against countries with functioning AD systems. It seems to me there is no useful, objective info on these in internet. I can find either very technical individual analysis of similar systems or just endless boasting. Anyone aware of a source with comparative analysis?

 

[TheInsider]

Our precision is far better than Iran and NK against stationary targets. France is not a big player when it comes to ballistic missiles. They only have M51 SLBM that is a submarine launched intercontinental ballistic missile for nuclear weapons. MBDA France is working on a MRBM but we haven't seen anything yet. Roketsans precision is proven with tests, and Roketsan has its own proprietary guidance technology that is %100 GPS free. Against big moving targets like big navy vessels we don't know the current level as it is classified data. If we look at Rocketry i don't know any missile comparable to Tayfun block 1 in the same payload and weight. Its range is officially announced at 800km. It carries around a 1000-pound warhead to that distance while weighing only 2300kg. This shows our solid fuel rocket motor design, fuel formulation, and composite material usage are at the forefront compared to competitors.

IHA-300ER is among the top five, as there are not a lot of countries with that capability. We don't have kamikaze drones similar to Russian Geran and Israel's Harop due to mistakes in planning and execution of Kargı project. It is a weakness it must be adressed. For smaller Kamikaze drones and loitering munitions we have many options.

 

[zio]

Is there anyone who think that F-35 can use amraam D missile against J-20 or J-35,of course can not,so A to A missiles would go to two categories one is short range less than 50 miles and the other is more than 200 miles,very long range.short range ones against 5 th generation fighters,very long ranges against tankers,soj aircrafts,awacs etc.. sooner or later this will happen.Gökhan and new roketsan AA missile are useless against greek or israel F-35,so we are on the wrong pathway.lets call it save the day.

 

[Khagan1923]

Does anyone have any pictures of the models from the TAI stand?

 

[boredaf]

I got my answer from this video, the mechanical joint of the pod are further back and not in the middle.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948269416845840854

I really love this UGV, it has a lot of potential. Take the Sungur pods off, replace it with Cirit or Omtas/Umtas, hell even Karaok, and it would turn into fire support UGV.

 

[Pokemonte13]

New korkut and it looks beautiful aesa radar and laser warning system

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948265993563758968

 

[Saithan]

I really love this UGV, it has a lot of potential. Take the Sungur pods off, replace it with Cirit or Omtas/Umtas, hell even Karaok, and it would turn into fire support UGV.

I think it could be used as a perimeter defender unit. Moving at slow speed with rotating radar armed with cirit and 35mm smart munition

 

[UkroTurk]

New korkut and it looks beautiful aesa radar and laser warning system

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948265993563758968

Gorgeous
THX for news.

Wouldn't be ultimate solution for Navy's autonomous CIWS ?? 2 X ( front and rear) new korkut must have every Corvette and frigates. Today every ship urges 360 degree ciws coverage.

 

[mTT]

CMC >> Computer Management Computer
VMC >> Vecihle Management Computer

TÜBİTAK - BİLGEM

 

[mTT]

Is this a MOU or more serious?

There were reports that two Indonesia-based companies would be subcontractors for TUSAŞ (KAAN). These companies are probably the ones.

 

[AlperTunga]

Thanks bro for the detaiiled answer. Have they re-assigned the Kargi project to some other firm? Or why they dont involve Aselsan or Tusas in return for some profit sharing with Vestel? We should try hard to catchup with Israel there.

 

[TheInsider]

Yes Kargı project is reassigned to another firm. Lentatek/Vestel pissed off SSB.

 

[TheInsider]

But why does Lentatek still exhibit them? Or will they sell them as another product?

They own the rights to product so they are marketing it.

 

[TheInsider]

Wait, so the new firm has to start from scratch with Kargi?

Yes, that is why it might take a few years until something materializes.