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Well done. Seems your are learning from the F-35 program and the Rafale.
It would be a huge set up for India as well building your own carrier borne jet.
It would be a huge set up for India as well building your own carrier borne jet.
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Yup that's the plan , earlier the fifth gen plane we are developing was planned for modification but dropped due to complexity .
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This is shocking, you are making things less complex and cheaper so you can buy more of them and build them faster. What is this strange new concept? Haha.
Again doing all the right things, which western nations should learn from.
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Actually we made mistakes during tejas program , learnt from it and amended our shortcomings .
Still a long way to go .
Btw RR is in talk with india for engine co deveolpment , if deal get finalized , tempest and indian jets may share some oem level components
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Like I said:
"I've arbitrarily drawn the line between major & minor combatant at 3,000T purely based on displacement (indicative of range/endurance/mission), otherwise some of the Minors here have more teeth than some Majors."
Another factor which determined why I'm drawing it at 3k tons is because all ships above that are more likely to form task forces/carrier battle groups for offensive operations. Whereas the smaller NGC, NGMV corvettes will likely be relegated for independent patrol/interdiction operations closer to coast.
This doesn't mean the NGC/NGMV won't ever become part of a larger task force, but that it is less likely.
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INS Dhruv: India gets its first nuclear missile tracking ship today.
Details here
The Indian Navy is expected to be able to increase its presence in the Indo-Pacific region and beyond with the likes of INS Dhruv in its arsenal, considering largely persisting threats from its neighbours China and Pakistan.
Written by Joydeep Bose | Edited by Meenakshi Ray, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
UPDATED ON SEP 10, 2021 07:58 AM IST
INS Dhruv is equipped with multiple features that make it a state-of-the-art instrument in modern naval warfare. (File Photo / HT)
In what comes as a significant boost to the country's naval power, India is all set to launch its first satellite and ballistic missile tracking ship Dhruv on Friday. The 10,000-tonne vessel will be commissioned from Visakhapatnam in Andhra Pradesh in the presence of senior officials from the Indian Navy, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), and the National Technical Research Organisation (NTRO), among others. INS Dhruv lies at the heart of India's future anti-ballistic capabilities and the ship will play a key role in advancing the country's presence in the Indo-Pacific region.
INS Dhruv, the latest addition to the Indian Navy's arsenal, was built by the Hindustan Shipyard in collaboration with the DRDO and NTRO. The ship is equipped with multiple features that make it a state-of-the-art instrument in modern naval warfare.
Here's a look at some of the features of INS Dhruv.
INS Dhruv: A key contender in anti-ballistic warfare
INS Dhruv, with its anti-ballistic missile capabilities, will act as an early warning system for enemy missiles headed towards Indian cities and military establishments.
Dhruv also possesses a state-of-the-art active scanned array radar (AESA), developed by the DRDO, which will enable it to scan various spectrums and monitor spy satellites watching over India, as well as monitor missile tests in the entire region.
Dhruv is India's first naval vessel that is capable of tracking nuclear missiles at a long range, which assumes a special significance with an increasing threat of nuclear ballistic warfare in the Indo-Pacific region.
In addition to these, INS Dhruv is also equipped with the capability to map ocean beds for research and detection of enemy submarines.
How will India benefit from the addition of INS Dhruv to its arsenal?
The Indian Navy is expected to be able to increase its presence in the Indo-Pacific region and beyond with the likes of INS Dhruv in its arsenal, considering largely persisting threats from its neighbours China and Pakistan. Here's a look at how the country is likely to benefit from the addition of INS Dhruv to its arsenal of naval warfare instruments:
INS Dhruv will play a key role in India's maritime awareness in the Indo-Pacific since it is being commissioned at a time when an era of underwater warfare and surveillance drones with the use of advanced submarines has arrived.
Both China and Pakistan currently have nuclear ballistic capabilities and harbour land disputes against India. In such a scenario, INS Dhruv arrives as a major upgrade to India's fortification and force multiplier in the maritime security architecture.
INS Dhruv, with its state-of-the-art detection facilities, will also help the country's defence and military researchers understand the true missile capability of the adversary when they test their ballistic missiles.
With Dhruv monitoring the seas for spy satellites across a variety of spectrums, the Indian Navy can now keep an eye out in the entire region from the Gulf of Aden to the ingress route to the South China Sea via Malacca, Sunda, Lombok, Ombai and Wetar straits. India’s electronic intelligence-gathering spy agency, the NTRO, will be able to gather more data across these regions and be on the lookout for threats.
Moreover, with INS Dhruv on its side, the Indian Navy can now strategise its military operations better across all three dimensions of naval warfare – sub-surface, surface, and aerial. This is especially important since China has recently moved to a ‘sea-based military doctrine’ with huge investments in long-range aircraft carriers, warships, and submarines.
India's nuclear missile tracking ship will be manned by Indian Navy personnel with the Strategic Forces Command (SFC). With the addition of INS Dhruv, India will join an elite list of countries that presently consists of only France, the US, the UK, Russia, and China, who possess and operate such vessels.
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Details here
The Indian Navy is expected to be able to increase its presence in the Indo-Pacific region and beyond with the likes of INS Dhruv in its arsenal, considering largely persisting threats from its neighbours China and Pakistan.
Written by Joydeep Bose | Edited by Meenakshi Ray, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
UPDATED ON SEP 10, 2021 07:58 AM IST
INS Dhruv is equipped with multiple features that make it a state-of-the-art instrument in modern naval warfare. (File Photo / HT)
In what comes as a significant boost to the country's naval power, India is all set to launch its first satellite and ballistic missile tracking ship Dhruv on Friday. The 10,000-tonne vessel will be commissioned from Visakhapatnam in Andhra Pradesh in the presence of senior officials from the Indian Navy, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), and the National Technical Research Organisation (NTRO), among others. INS Dhruv lies at the heart of India's future anti-ballistic capabilities and the ship will play a key role in advancing the country's presence in the Indo-Pacific region.
INS Dhruv, the latest addition to the Indian Navy's arsenal, was built by the Hindustan Shipyard in collaboration with the DRDO and NTRO. The ship is equipped with multiple features that make it a state-of-the-art instrument in modern naval warfare.
Here's a look at some of the features of INS Dhruv.
INS Dhruv: A key contender in anti-ballistic warfare
INS Dhruv, with its anti-ballistic missile capabilities, will act as an early warning system for enemy missiles headed towards Indian cities and military establishments.
Dhruv also possesses a state-of-the-art active scanned array radar (AESA), developed by the DRDO, which will enable it to scan various spectrums and monitor spy satellites watching over India, as well as monitor missile tests in the entire region.
Dhruv is India's first naval vessel that is capable of tracking nuclear missiles at a long range, which assumes a special significance with an increasing threat of nuclear ballistic warfare in the Indo-Pacific region.
In addition to these, INS Dhruv is also equipped with the capability to map ocean beds for research and detection of enemy submarines.
How will India benefit from the addition of INS Dhruv to its arsenal?
The Indian Navy is expected to be able to increase its presence in the Indo-Pacific region and beyond with the likes of INS Dhruv in its arsenal, considering largely persisting threats from its neighbours China and Pakistan. Here's a look at how the country is likely to benefit from the addition of INS Dhruv to its arsenal of naval warfare instruments:
INS Dhruv will play a key role in India's maritime awareness in the Indo-Pacific since it is being commissioned at a time when an era of underwater warfare and surveillance drones with the use of advanced submarines has arrived.
Both China and Pakistan currently have nuclear ballistic capabilities and harbour land disputes against India. In such a scenario, INS Dhruv arrives as a major upgrade to India's fortification and force multiplier in the maritime security architecture.
INS Dhruv, with its state-of-the-art detection facilities, will also help the country's defence and military researchers understand the true missile capability of the adversary when they test their ballistic missiles.
With Dhruv monitoring the seas for spy satellites across a variety of spectrums, the Indian Navy can now keep an eye out in the entire region from the Gulf of Aden to the ingress route to the South China Sea via Malacca, Sunda, Lombok, Ombai and Wetar straits. India’s electronic intelligence-gathering spy agency, the NTRO, will be able to gather more data across these regions and be on the lookout for threats.
Moreover, with INS Dhruv on its side, the Indian Navy can now strategise its military operations better across all three dimensions of naval warfare – sub-surface, surface, and aerial. This is especially important since China has recently moved to a ‘sea-based military doctrine’ with huge investments in long-range aircraft carriers, warships, and submarines.
India's nuclear missile tracking ship will be manned by Indian Navy personnel with the Strategic Forces Command (SFC). With the addition of INS Dhruv, India will join an elite list of countries that presently consists of only France, the US, the UK, Russia, and China, who possess and operate such vessels.
INS Dhruv: India gets its first nuclear missile tracking ship today. Details here
The Indian Navy is expected to be able to increase its presence in the Indo-Pacific region and beyond with the likes of INS Dhruv in its arsenal, considering largely persisting threats from its neighbours China and Pakistan.
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A small battle group of the IN's Western Naval Command (WNC). WNC has many such battle groups, some groups are a lot larger than this.
The 4 ships are (left to right): INS Mumbai (D62), INS Talwar (F40), INS Gomati (F20) & INS Delhi (D61).
Combined they carry :
2 x 100mm AK-100 naval gun
1 x 100mm AK-190E naval gun
1 x twin barrel 57mm AK-257 naval gun
12 x AK-630 CIWS
1 x Kashtan CIWS
5 x RBU-6000 rocket launcher
4 x P-15 Termit AShM/LACM
32 x Kh-35E AShM/LACM
8 x Klub AShM/LACM
8 x Igla-1E
40 x Barak-1 point defence missile
72 x Shtil-1 medium range AD missile
12 x 533mm torpedo launch tubes (unknown number of Type 53-65 or TEST 71-76 or Varunastra or the upcoming EHWT torpedoes)
6 x 324mm torpedo launch tubes (unknown number of TAL Shyena or ALWT or Whitehead A 244S or the upcoming Jalastra torpedoes)
7 x Sea King Mk 42B or HAL Dhruv or HAL Chetak or Ka-28 or Ka-31 helicopters
Pretty impressive weapon load especially given all of the ships here are quite old.
The 4 ships are (left to right): INS Mumbai (D62), INS Talwar (F40), INS Gomati (F20) & INS Delhi (D61).
Combined they carry :
2 x 100mm AK-100 naval gun
1 x 100mm AK-190E naval gun
1 x twin barrel 57mm AK-257 naval gun
12 x AK-630 CIWS
1 x Kashtan CIWS
5 x RBU-6000 rocket launcher
4 x P-15 Termit AShM/LACM
32 x Kh-35E AShM/LACM
8 x Klub AShM/LACM
8 x Igla-1E
40 x Barak-1 point defence missile
72 x Shtil-1 medium range AD missile
12 x 533mm torpedo launch tubes (unknown number of Type 53-65 or TEST 71-76 or Varunastra or the upcoming EHWT torpedoes)
6 x 324mm torpedo launch tubes (unknown number of TAL Shyena or ALWT or Whitehead A 244S or the upcoming Jalastra torpedoes)
7 x Sea King Mk 42B or HAL Dhruv or HAL Chetak or Ka-28 or Ka-31 helicopters
Pretty impressive weapon load especially given all of the ships here are quite old.
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Exercise Malabar Phase-II to be held next week in Bay of Bengal
First military engagement among Quad partner countries since AUKUS unveiled
The Quadrilateral group comprising India, Australia, Japan and the U.S. is scheduled to hold Phase-II of the Malabar naval exercise next week, according to official sources.
This is the first military engagement among the Quad partner countries since Australia, the U.S. and the U.K. unveiled the AUKUS initiative to deepen cooperation on a range of “emerging security and defence capabilities” which includes equipping Australian with at least eight nuclear powered submarines (SSN).
The exercise will be held over three days beginning October 12 in the Bay of Bengal, an official source said.
Phase-I of Malabar, also its 25th edition, was hosted by the U.S. and held off Guam from August 26-29.
The Japan Maritime Self Defence Force (JMSDF) vessels, which arrived in India for the bilateral exercise JIMEX, will participate in Phase-II. These include Izumo class helicopter carrier Kaga and guided missile destroyer Murasame along with their integral SH60K helicopters.
The Malabar exercise commenced in 1992 as an India-U.S. exercise. In 2015, Japan joined as a permanent member and Australia was included in the 2020 edition.
Malabar has significantly grown in scope and complexity over the years and since adding more members has further evolved deepening interoperability among the partner nations. This got a boost with India signing the foundational agreements with the U.S. and acquiring more and more military platforms bringing in commonality.
All the partner countries have bilateral logistics agreements and maritime cooperation agreements with India and have deployed an International Liaison Officer at the Navy’s Information Fusion Centre for Indian Ocean Region (IFC-IOR) which is the nodal centre for maritime domain awareness in the region.
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Eye on mega deal with Navy, Dassault will fly Rafale Marine to India in 2022 for showcase trip
Dassault Aviation had been in talks with Navy for the naval version of Rafale even before the French giant signed the contract for 36 air force fighters in 2016.
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Dassault Aviation had been in talks with Navy for the naval version of Rafale even before the French giant signed the contract for 36 air force fighters in 2016.
New Delhi: French defence giant Dassault Aviation is likely to bring the naval version of the Rafale aircraft to India in early 2022 to showcase its ability to carry out a ski-jump, which is a crucial take-off capability to operate from Indian aircraft carriers, ThePrint has learnt.
Sources in the defence establishment said Dassault, which is eyeing a mega contract with the Indian Navy for new fighters, has offered to bring the Rafale M (Marine) to India. The Navy plans to procure new fighters to replace the Russian MiG 29Ks.
“The Rafale M will not take off from the aircraft carrier (during the showcase) but from the shore-based test facility (SBTF) at INS Hansa, Goa. The Dassault Aviation is confident and wanted to showcase their capability in India itself,” a source said.
The sources added that the dates are yet to be worked out but Dassault has offered to bring the Rafale M as early as January, if needed.
Carrier-based fighters primarily come in three categories — STOVL (short take-off and vertical landing), STOBAR (Short Take-off but Arrested Recovery) and CATOBAR (catapult take-off but arrested recovery).
French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle and American carriers use CATOBAR while Indian carriers — INS Vikramaditya and an indigenous one that is under trial — employ STOBAR. That’s why foreign fighters have to showcase the capability as a basic requirement.
A fighter aircraft’s behaviour for a few seconds after ski-jump take-offs, until wing-borne flight takes place, is critical to achieve a successful launch from carriers.
Rafale M’s competitor — the F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter of Boeing — had demonstrated the ski-jump capability in December 2020. However, the demonstration was held at Naval Air Station Patuxent River in the US.
Also read: Why India is set to miss 2021 deadline to upgrade Mirage 2000 fighters
Talks for Naval version of Rafale date back to 2016
Dassault Aviation had been in talks with the Navy for the naval version of the Rafale even before they signed the contract for the 36 air force fighters in 2016.In 2017, the Navy issued a Request for Information (RFI) to foreign players for 57 new fighters.
However, with the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) now working on a Twin-Engine Carrier-Based Deck Fighter (TEBDF), the Navy is likely to cut down its requirements for foreign fighters.
Last year, Navy chief Admiral Karambir Singh had also said the force may pursue joint acquisition of fighters with the IAF.
“We have the MiG-29K operating from the Vikramaditya and will operate from the Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC)-I. To replace them, we have taken up a case for the Multi-Role Carrier-Borne Fighters (MRCBF) which we are trying to do along with the IAF,” he said.
Also read: IAF is not just a support arm, says new Air chief Chaudhari, as he backs joint ops
‘Lift of IAC-I can accommodate all aircraft’
Sources in the defence establishment sought to allay fears expressed in some quarters that the lift of the indigenous aircraft carrier was small and would not be able to accommodate either the Rafale M or the F/A-18. While the Boeing fighter comes with foldable wings, Rafale does not.“The mere fact that both companies are eager to offer their aircraft means that they have taken into account various measurements,” a source said, refusing to get into the specifics.
Sources also said that all discussions on the project are happening internally within the Navy and any move to proceed further will depend on what the companies have to offer in terms of cost, including lifecycle costs and future upgrades.
While Dassault is happy to merge naval requirements with that of the Air Force, Boeing is sceptical about it, they added.
(Edited by Rachel John)
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HMNLS Evertsen is visiting Mumbai and having a look see around as well:
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I think Tejas Mk 2 and AMCA should be the main focus instead of TEDBF , either F-18 ( only if growler is on offer ) or Rafale M should be procured .
They will not only act as offensive but a big detternt and China will thing twice before facing them in IOR
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Rafale makes lot of sense for navy IMO. I like TEDBF too....but India has to cull the herd in its programs a bit I feel (with production capacity etc in mind).
I am just stating there there can only be one highlander......choosing one here means other isnt happening. It is just plain logic and math.
India should choose soon.
