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The problems with bullpups that i know: triggers linking mechanism usually gives a bad experience because it is not like a native bullpup, its just an old school mechanism like ak or ar being carried backward and stock removed sort of weirdness. The other problem is often difficulty of accessing the mechanism when it jams etc. Also the ejection becomes problematic, need a mechanism to prevent cases from hitting the wrong places. Reloading is less straightforward. But all that being said, the ability to have 16 or 20 inch barrels in such a short overall length is a valuable asset.
Desert tech totally solved trigger and ejection problems. They have refined the gun, wolverine is the third gen of their bullpup platform. They even offer full auto version.

 
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Micro Bullpup Rifles: A Necessity for the Turkish Security Forces

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1. Advantages of Bullpup Rifles:


  • Short Length: Their shorter length compared to classic rifles increases maneuverability in confined spaces. This feature provides a significant advantage in urban warfare, buildings, and vehicles.
  • Weight Distribution: The center of gravity is closer to the shooter's body, improving carrying and maneuverability. This reduces fatigue during prolonged operations.
  • Better Ergonomics: In bullpup rifles, the trigger mechanism is located behind the magazine. This allows the shooter to aim and fire more comfortably.
  • Less Recoil: Bullpup rifles have a longer barrel length, resulting in less recoil. This allows the shooter to fire faster and more accurately.
2. Advantages of the Desert Tech Wolverine Micron Model:

  • Modular Design: The Wolverine Micron is designed to be compatible with different barrel lengths, magazine capacities, and optical systems. This allows for customization for different missions.
  • High Accuracy: The Wolverine Micron is a high-precision rifle. It offers the ability to hit targets accurately even at long distances.
3. Suitability for the Turkish Security Forces:

  • Special Operations Units: Micro bullpup rifles are ideal for special operations units operating in confined spaces.
  • Paratroopers: Their short length and light weight make them ideal for paratroopers.
  • Helicopter, Aircraft, and Ship Personnel: Micro bullpup rifles provide a significant advantage for personnel operating in limited spaces.
  • Intelligence and Embassy Protection Personnel: Ideal for covert operations and protection missions.
4. Deficiencies of Current Weapon Systems:

  • 9mm and 5.7mm Caliber Submachine Guns: These weapons lack the capacity to use more powerful ammunition. Additionally, their length can increase when a suppressor is attached.
5. Advantages Provided by the Micro Bullpup Rifle:

  • More Powerful Ammunition: Powerful ammunition such as 5.56mm, 7.62x39mm, and 7.62x54mm provides more effective firepower.
  • Compact Size: Even with a suppressor attached, the length does not increase. This enhances maneuverability in confined spaces.
6. Relationship with MPT76 and MPT55:

  • The micro bullpup rifle does not replace the MPT76 and MPT55. This rifle is designed to meet a different need.
7. Export Potential:

  • The micro bullpup rifle will be in high demand in civilian and military markets worldwide. This presents a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.
Conclusion:

The micro bullpup rifle is an ideal weapon system to meet the needs of the Turkish security forces. I believe this rifle will enhance the operational capabilities of the Turkish security forces and create a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.



Even the French and the Brits phased them out,while Austrians are planning to do so in close future.Russians,Americans and Chinese never went further than prototypes...decades ago.There is a reason for that.
 

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Micro Bullpup Rifles: A Necessity for the Turkish Security Forces

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1. Advantages of Bullpup Rifles:


  • Short Length: Their shorter length compared to classic rifles increases maneuverability in confined spaces. This feature provides a significant advantage in urban warfare, buildings, and vehicles.
  • Weight Distribution: The center of gravity is closer to the shooter's body, improving carrying and maneuverability. This reduces fatigue during prolonged operations.
  • Better Ergonomics: In bullpup rifles, the trigger mechanism is located behind the magazine. This allows the shooter to aim and fire more comfortably.
  • Less Recoil: Bullpup rifles have a longer barrel length, resulting in less recoil. This allows the shooter to fire faster and more accurately.
2. Advantages of the Desert Tech Wolverine Micron Model:

  • Modular Design: The Wolverine Micron is designed to be compatible with different barrel lengths, magazine capacities, and optical systems. This allows for customization for different missions.
  • High Accuracy: The Wolverine Micron is a high-precision rifle. It offers the ability to hit targets accurately even at long distances.
3. Suitability for the Turkish Security Forces:

  • Special Operations Units: Micro bullpup rifles are ideal for special operations units operating in confined spaces.
  • Paratroopers: Their short length and light weight make them ideal for paratroopers.
  • Helicopter, Aircraft, and Ship Personnel: Micro bullpup rifles provide a significant advantage for personnel operating in limited spaces.
  • Intelligence and Embassy Protection Personnel: Ideal for covert operations and protection missions.
4. Deficiencies of Current Weapon Systems:

  • 9mm and 5.7mm Caliber Submachine Guns: These weapons lack the capacity to use more powerful ammunition. Additionally, their length can increase when a suppressor is attached.
5. Advantages Provided by the Micro Bullpup Rifle:

  • More Powerful Ammunition: Powerful ammunition such as 5.56mm, 7.62x39mm, and 7.62x54mm provides more effective firepower.
  • Compact Size: Even with a suppressor attached, the length does not increase. This enhances maneuverability in confined spaces.
6. Relationship with MPT76 and MPT55:

  • The micro bullpup rifle does not replace the MPT76 and MPT55. This rifle is designed to meet a different need.
7. Export Potential:

  • The micro bullpup rifle will be in high demand in civilian and military markets worldwide. This presents a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.
Conclusion:

The micro bullpup rifle is an ideal weapon system to meet the needs of the Turkish security forces. I believe this rifle will enhance the operational capabilities of the Turkish security forces and create a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.



IWI Tar-21 is already in the inventory of the Special Forces Command and not only that, but even the STAR-21 which is a designated marksman variant is in the inventory. We also got a FN P-90 in the inventory of the Gendarmerie. Both the TARs and the P90s are phased out by AR platforms tho.

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Micro Bullpup Rifles: A Necessity for the Turkish Security Forces

View attachment 71280

1. Advantages of Bullpup Rifles:


  • Short Length: Their shorter length compared to classic rifles increases maneuverability in confined spaces. This feature provides a significant advantage in urban warfare, buildings, and vehicles.
  • Weight Distribution: The center of gravity is closer to the shooter's body, improving carrying and maneuverability. This reduces fatigue during prolonged operations.
  • Better Ergonomics: In bullpup rifles, the trigger mechanism is located behind the magazine. This allows the shooter to aim and fire more comfortably.
  • Less Recoil: Bullpup rifles have a longer barrel length, resulting in less recoil. This allows the shooter to fire faster and more accurately.
2. Advantages of the Desert Tech Wolverine Micron Model:

  • Modular Design: The Wolverine Micron is designed to be compatible with different barrel lengths, magazine capacities, and optical systems. This allows for customization for different missions.
  • High Accuracy: The Wolverine Micron is a high-precision rifle. It offers the ability to hit targets accurately even at long distances.
3. Suitability for the Turkish Security Forces:

  • Special Operations Units: Micro bullpup rifles are ideal for special operations units operating in confined spaces.
  • Paratroopers: Their short length and light weight make them ideal for paratroopers.
  • Helicopter, Aircraft, and Ship Personnel: Micro bullpup rifles provide a significant advantage for personnel operating in limited spaces.
  • Intelligence and Embassy Protection Personnel: Ideal for covert operations and protection missions.
4. Deficiencies of Current Weapon Systems:

  • 9mm and 5.7mm Caliber Submachine Guns: These weapons lack the capacity to use more powerful ammunition. Additionally, their length can increase when a suppressor is attached.
5. Advantages Provided by the Micro Bullpup Rifle:

  • More Powerful Ammunition: Powerful ammunition such as 5.56mm, 7.62x39mm, and 7.62x54mm provides more effective firepower.
  • Compact Size: Even with a suppressor attached, the length does not increase. This enhances maneuverability in confined spaces.
6. Relationship with MPT76 and MPT55:

  • The micro bullpup rifle does not replace the MPT76 and MPT55. This rifle is designed to meet a different need.
7. Export Potential:

  • The micro bullpup rifle will be in high demand in civilian and military markets worldwide. This presents a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.
Conclusion:

The micro bullpup rifle is an ideal weapon system to meet the needs of the Turkish security forces. I believe this rifle will enhance the operational capabilities of the Turkish security forces and create a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.



Well i used the Steyr AUG (STG77) during conscription and also shot different rifles (AK Mk105, AR-15 and CZ Bren2) and i can tell you that the trigger of the AUG sucks in comparison to the other three, the recoil was also more snappy imo, ergonomics are good but if you’re taller it's kinda weird or when you have gear on like chest rigs etc. since you can't adjust the stock, balance was excellent no other rifle comes close, shooting in the prone is ok reloading it in this position is annoying.

Bullpups have their advanatges the biggest one is that a full sized rifle with 16" barrel is as short as a short barrel AR, good for personel in Tanks, Helicopters etc. Intelligence and other forces that need a compact rifle but for Special Forces the more modular AR plattform makes more sense.
 

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Well i used the Steyr AUG (STG77) during conscription and also shot different rifles (AK Mk105, AR-15 and CZ Bren2)
Oh my dear, you are cool. I am jealous 😇

But Desert Tech wolverine is known for accuracy. They really solved the trigger problem.
 
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