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From lembaga keris, 30 Billion rupiah to prolong usage time of Russian Made Missiles in Air Force inventory View attachment 7902
is stuff like this always posted in SIRUP LKPP ? why i never heard or see such thing like this in previous year , or the TNI and kemhan just recently decide to be more open about their audit now ?
 

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Neither would give him political points for another Presidential run.

Disagree. Buying even much more expensive European war machines in this pandemic era where people dying and the economy has been shrinking to -5% will not benefit him in any way in politics. Instead, it will become one of his weak track records. People will question his decision making and priority scaling abilities.

Even very personal reason like "he wants to take revenge against the U.S. who were banning him for 20 yrs" is more believable for me than politics :)

when no less than French own MoD said the deal is almost being closed

Exactly. Suggesting that French MoD TV interview is part of our "collective coordinated diplomacy move" is kinda clutching at straws.
 

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Rafale, Typhoon, Vipers, Flankers, .

@Nilgiri we are in open competition with Qatar and India on who could collect most fighter models.
 

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You're expecting the U.S. would give up and give us F-35 after this "colective coordinated diplomacy move"? Way too optimistic. The offer will still be about F-16V and SHornet Block III.
The deal isnt just about defence acquisition, one of the reason we get the GSP. We can all just wonder what is the end game because if what Im guessing is right then the game itself is being played as we speak.

Collective means that multiple sector/goals being approached with various kementrian working together. SWF is part of it and that US P8 "base" request is also part of it. And only they know what other goals are being pursue as well.

And Im not expecting F-35, as well as I dont give much hope on Rafale tho the French MoD already gave statement.
 

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Rafale, Typhoon, Vipers, Flankers, .

@Nilgiri we are in open competition with Qatar and India on who could collect most fighter models.
Vipers and Flankers will get phase out within one or two decade. Even typhoon remaining hours are pretty limited when we receive them.
 
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Vipers and Flankers will get phase out within one or two decade. Even typhoon remaining hours are pretty limited when we receive them.
Vipers are still going to be the workhorse for the Air Force until we could get our hands on 5th gen fighters.

Don't know about the Flanker.
 

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Rafale, Typhoon, Vipers, Flankers, .

@Nilgiri we are in open competition with Qatar and India on who could collect most fighter models.
don't forget egypt...for me they are more crazy than India when it comes to diversity of weapons acquisition
 

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From lembaga keris, 30 Billion rupiah to prolong usage time of Russian Made Missiles in Air Force inventory View attachment 7902
So for those who wish our Flankers might get retired before its time might have to hold that thought :p
Oh btw most of Russian's missiles have less life time then the west one. Just like Flanker, their missiles might have cheaper acquisition price but they need more maintenance budget then the similar platform from the west. But again I am still a Yakhont lover :cool:😄
 

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So for those who wish our Flankers might get retired before its time might have to hold that thought :p
Oh btw most of Russian's missiles have less life time then the west one. Just like Flanker, their missiles might have cheaper acquisition price but they need more maintenance budget then the similar platform from the west. But again I am still a Yakhont lover :cool:😄
When Rafale and Typhoon operational and "tagihan" start coming in....
🤮🙃🙃🙃🙃
 

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There is plan for further acquisition of LIFT/light fighter jet Aircraft between 2020 and 2024 Air Force building program
 

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So which deal will indonesia sign later on? typhoon or rafale. for me, as a beginner I think that the diplomation tactic used by mod is to "force" US to sell f 35 (which is impossible and I don't want it) or at the end let Indonesia to buy 11 sukhoi 35.
Caatsa
 

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So which deal will indonesia sign later on? typhoon or rafale. for me, as a beginner I think that the diplomation tactic used by mod is to "force" US to sell f 35 (which is impossible and I don't want it) or at the end let Indonesia to buy 11 sukhoi 35.

What is in your feeling not relevan at all, what is in the doctrine of Air Force, their need and political situation along with government money dictated what Indonesia can bought and acquire
 

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