Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[Umigami]

Anyway, any details about weapon package we purchase for Rafale?
Meteor, Hammer and SCALP included?

No idea on what weapons package but iirc based from a post here according to Dassault official the Rafale variant Indonesia is getting is the F4.

No Scalp yet huh?
What we got for Rafale: Mica (both variant), Meteor, Exocet.
Well for now that KHAN is enough for deterrent. Be grateful with what you got, I guess

 

[Anmdt]

What's wrong with original Hisar radar?
But well whatever...

Hisar battery uses Kalkan-II radar as 3D search - track radar, and nothing is wrong. It has been in use for quite a long time. also uses dedicated Fire control radar (AKR-Block A2) to precisely track the target with E/O and radar combo.

Siper battery uses EIRS / ÇFAKR radars, respectively S and X bands, nothing is wrong again, EIRS has been tested at least for a decade first within CAFRAD program and then T-EIRS program. ÇFAKR, however is new and undergoing tests.

Both are available as key-turn systems, but EA is selected as the main contractor of the project as it seems. And Czechia provides the credit.

 

[Lordimperator]

But well whatever...

Retia also provide AURI GCI radar

Well for now that KHAN is enough for deterrent. Be grateful with what you got, I guess

India bought SCALP right?

 

[Umigami]

Retia also provide AURI GCI radar

India bought SCALP right?

Yeah.
Does Scalp still using US components now?
Does US okay with us having cruise missile capability?
If yes, we actually could give them some pressure with that Eagle procurement.


...or maybe we just don't have enough money yet.

 

[Anmdt]

Hisar battery uses Kalkan-II radar as 3D search - track radar, and nothing is wrong. It has been in use for quite a long time. also uses dedicated Fire control radar (AKR-Block A2) to precisely track the target with E/O and radar combo.

View attachment 50160

Siper battery uses EIRS / ÇFAKR radars, respectively S and X bands, nothing is wrong again, EIRS has been tested at least for a decade first within CAFRAD program and then T-EIRS program. ÇFAKR, however is new and undergoing tests.

View attachment 50161

Both are available as key-turn systems, but EA is selected as the main contractor of the project as it seems. And Czechia provides the credit.

Clearing the mess;

Acc. to @SavunmaSanayiST.com ;

Roketsan’dan Endonezya’ya TriSula Hava Savunma Füzeleri, KHAN ve ATMACA İhracatı

Roketsan, Endonezya’ya; TriSula Orta/Yüksek İrtifa Hava Savunma Füzeleri, KHAN Topçu Füzesi ile ATMACA Gemisavar Füzesi ihracatı gerçekleştirdi.

www.savunmasanayist.com

The missiles are not Hisar-O/U but whole new missiles for medium and long range that will be developed specially for Indonesia, by Roketsan.

The missiles will have RF seeker. Likely datalink and seekers will be provided by Retia (not sure if they are capable of that?) . Makes a lot of sense with this way. A Whole new missile, neither Hisar nor Siper.

 

[Umigami]

Clearing the mess;

The missiles will have RF seeker. Likely datalink and seekers will be provided by Retia (not sure if they are capable of that?) . Makes a lot of sense with this way. A Whole new missile, neither Hisar nor Siper.

Not completely new but modifications?

 

[Anmdt]

Not completely new but modifications?

Possible to be based on expertise of Hisar-RF or Siper-Block-0/1 that we mentioned in Turkish air defense programs thread. Thus could be entirely new.

What are the requirements of Indonesian Air Force in this regard? Such as, are they requiring a dual-pulse motor, or certain reaction time at a distance after launched,cold launch instead of hot launch, a certain altitude and remaining kinetic capability at a certain distance?

If these parameters are close to Hisar / Siper then it will be modifications, if not then the missile will be made from scratch tailored to needs.

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1589601965511933952

ADS 400 Trisula.
Lol they used J20 as target

 

[Gary]

anyway, due to the influx of defense cooperation between RI and TR, I would love to see this integrated into our F-16s.

@Anmdt @Cabatli_TR , does our F-16 need some large tweaking to accomodate one ?

 

[Anmdt]

anyway, due to the influx of defense cooperation between RI and TR, I would love to see this integrated into our F-16s.

@Anmdt @Cabatli_TR , does our F-16 need some large tweaking to accomodate one ?

As i recall, no. The missile (SOM-A/B) is recognized as an existing cruise missile of US' weapon identification system and the information passed onto missile and interpreted as supposed to be, prior to launch.

However, for SOM - C and J, there is a two way data-link allowing man in the loop or target update, thus a pod may be required (or further modification to install the data-link and integrate it to consoles)

But i don't know it well, @Cabatli_TR ,@Nutuk might tell more.

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1589601965511933952

ADS 400 Trisula.
Lol they used J20 as target

I hope it'll be link 16 capable

 

[Lordimperator]

link 16 capable

Has TNI use link16 yet?

 

[Madokafc]

Has TNI use link16 yet?

Already

 

[Madokafc]

In today seminar TNI AU, Prabowo explained to the audience about the lesson from Ukraine Russia war, and how UAV and UCAV technology able to bring Ukraine able to facing the Russian Armed Forces, world second super power. Until he said Tadinya ....

 

[Umigami]

In today seminar TNI AU, Prabowo explained to the audience about the lesson from Ukraine Russia war, and how UAV and UCAV technology able to bring Ukraine able to facing the Russian Armed Forces, world second super power. Until he said Tadinya ....

is it available on YouTube?

 

[chibiyabi]

In today seminar TNI AU, Prabowo explained to the audience about the lesson from Ukraine Russia war, and how UAV and UCAV technology able to bring Ukraine able to facing the Russian Armed Forces, world second super power. Until he said Tadinya ....

hm......

 

[Umigami]

Air Force send 6 pilots to France for Rafale training.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1589885734366105600

 

[Umigami]

Pics of one battery of ADS TriSula

View attachment 50194

details:
- 1 C4 Raccos
- 1 Surveillance Radar RL-3DL(Instrumented range 470km)
- 1 Firing Radar RL-3DM (Instrumented range 200km)
- 2 Launcher vehicle Tatra 8x8
- 1 Reload vehicle Tatra 8x8
- 1 Power unit and support vehicle

source:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1589848604906516481

2 launcher for 1 battery is pretty small. But we're talking about Indonesia where almost everything are "paket hemat" here.

also , Indonesian Multi Layered Air defense

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1589906331905163264

how about let ADS Trisula handle 2nd to 4th?

 

[Lordimperator]

how about let ADS Trisula handle 2nd to 4th?

How many nasams launcher does Auri have?
Let see how many batteries for this batch and the second batch

 

[Umigami]

How many nasams launcher does Auri have?
Let see how many batteries for this batch and the second batch

there is a 2nd batch?
I though Teluk Naga is the only Nasams we have.