Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[deadlast]

What are some key features of the F4 variant?

Nothing much, it's an improvement of F3R standard, with improved radar, avionics, irst, spectra, connectivity, uprated engine and adding more weapon and external sensor integration.

I'm just confused, I just asked on another forum and someone Frenchman sent this link.

Well no offense really, just a bit fed-up with that question popping out over and over again is all, please use search next time, and the only source that keep mentioning F3R version is LaTribune, while Dassault press release and other publication always mention 'the latest generation Rafale', whatever that even means.

 

[Umigami]

Dassault production from 2023 onwards would be Rafale F4

 

[Umigami]

3rd batch please

 

[Madokafc]

there is no second contract, third contract or so on. There is only one bulk contract for Rafale. And it is for convenience of budget sake, Indonesian made several payment budget for loan arrangement.

Duhh....

 

[Umigami]

there is no second contract, third contract or so on. There is only one bulk contract for Rafale. And it is for convenience of budget sake, Indonesian made several payment budget for loan arrangement.

Duhh....

So now it's already secure for all 42 of them?

 

[Madokafc]

So now it's already secure for all 42 of them?

They are already

 

[Umigami]

Now we only need to worry about their weapons procurement then

 

[Lordimperator]

Now we only need to worry about their weapons procurement then

What do you expect? ASMPA?

 

[Umigami]

What do you expect? ASMPA?

Mica, Meteor, Hammer, exocet, SCALP EG

laser GBU from US is good too.

 

[Gary]

Meteor is a big priority tho. Combined the very long range of the Meteor and the very long range radar coverage of AWACS assets, the Meteor could be unleashed in its full potential, all without the Rafale having to turn on their own radar.

Rafale has pretty small T/R array numbers

 

[Lordimperator]

Mica, Meteor, Hammer, exocet, SCALP EG

laser GBU from US is good too.

Any radiation missile?

 

[Umigami]

Any radiation missile?

What is radiation missile available for Rafale?

 

[Umigami]

Rafale has pretty small T/R array numbers

One of the reasons why we have to stick with Boramae. Rafale platform (which developed in 90s) already reaches its limit. Except Super Rafale if French really going for it.

But, F4 will has new RBE2 radar, right?

 

[Gary]

One of the reasons why we have to stick with Boramae. Rafale platform (which developed in 90s) already reaches its limit. Except Super Rafale if French really going for it.

But, F4 will has new RBE2 radar, right?

They only say its updated...

The RBE-2 is AESA since 2012 (RBE2-AA). So software updates ?

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1630911148777426946

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1631097093673848833

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1630911148777426946

If US offers us "free" military assets in case of invasion, their aerial tanker definitely included in my list.

 

[chibiyabi]

They are already

so this why those F15 ID "maju mundur cantik", the lady said " I already gave you biggest arm contract in indonesia history, WTF you ask for more 13,5 Bio, are you fuck*ng nuts". hope those men in Dephan have lot more determination to solve this problem

 

[Madokafc]

so this why those F15 ID "maju mundur cantik", the lady said " I already gave you biggest arm contract in indonesia history, WTF you ask for more 13,5 Bio, are you fuck*ng nuts". hope those men in Dephan have lot more determination to solve this problem

Major Arms deals with the US is a must, even SMI know that and can't intervened too much except trying to find out which years the budget must be prepared and have a headache because of that

 

[Umigami]

except trying to find out which years the budget must be prepared

I don't think it would be this year