Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[NEKO]

well, to bad

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No loreng for Herky and Rafale.

 

[Umigami]

No loreng for Herky and Rafale.

Actually, if their grey combination is good, loreng could be good.

 

[Umigami]

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Just don't give up!!!

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Prelim talks being started again

Put this on your package too please.

 

[Afif]

From the Facebook rumour, the contracted ads 400 trisula will be 2 batteries for batch 1, while batch 2 is in planning phase/ not yet given contract. Each battery 2 satbak, each satbak consists of 2 launchers.
More or less same like on the Anmdt posted
Post in thread 'Indo Defence Expo 2022' https://defencehub.live/threads/indo-defence-expo-2022.15520/post-225384

Source

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02S49hzhPqBX8nNnVUXUMS5odJ6kyJi5fKjdoDX7yBDckXEcKqSoat6GSZoVBV38EAl&id=1142532878&sfnsn=wiwspmo&mibextid=RUbZ1f

Not bad lah for starter, hopefully there will be repeat order.

That is damn expensive for medium range air defence solutions. Only two battery for $500 million?

Even German IRIS-T SLM cost around 140/150 million per battery.

 

[Lordimperator]

Only two battery for $500 million?

I think the $500mil included Khan TBM. Also if it does cost 500 mil only for Trisula, its MR-LRSAM should have the same league with Singaporean SAMPT, yet cheaper than theirs *perbattery.

 

[Afif]

I think the $500mil included Khan TBM. Also if it does cost 500 mil only for Trisula, its MR-LRSAM should have the same league with Singaporean SAMPT, yet cheaper than theirs *perbattery.

Okay if TBM is included then it would probably make sense.

But I don’t think Trisula U would be on per with SAMP T.
Aster interceptors has hit to kill capability while Siper block I doesnt.

 

[Lordimperator]

Okay if TBM is included then it would probably make sense.

But I don’t think Trisula U would be on per with SAMP T.
Aster interceptors has hit to kill capability while Siper block I doesnt.

Atleast from the same account rumoured, trisula costs 460 mil

 

[Joe mark]

Okay if TBM is included then it would probably make sense.

But I don’t think Trisula U would be on per with SAMP T.
Aster interceptors has hit to kill capability while Siper block I doesnt.

Lol all turkish air defense systems have hit to kill capablity including siper family

 

[Afif]

Lol all turkish air defense systems have hit to kill capablity including siper family

It is only promised with Siper block ii.

Hisar O/ RF and Siper block i performed hit to kill shot in live firing due to their good seeker accuracy.

But these were against subsonic targets.
To garuntee hit to kill shot ( specially against supersonic/ballistic targets ) you need altitude control motors like patriot pac-3 and Aster family interceptors. Which current Siper block I lacks.

 

[Joe mark]

Okay if TBM is included then it would probably make sense.

But I don’t think Trisula U would be on per with SAMP T.
Aster interceptors has hit to kill capability while Siper block I doesnt.

All tests we saw in this forum about turkish air defense systems have shown hit to kill capability, why are loving to misinformations about turkish products?

 

[Joe mark]

It is only promised with Siper block ii.

Hisar O/ RF and Siper block i performed hit to kill shot in live firing due to their good seeker accuracy.

But these were against subsonic targets.
To garuntee hit to kill shot ( specially againt supersonic targets ) you need altitude control motors like patriot pac-3 and Aster family interceptors. Which current Siper block I lacks.

are you serious?!!!

 

[Afif]

All tests we saw in this forum about turkish air defense systems have shown hit to kill capability, why are loving to misinformations about turkish products?

are you serious?!!!

Don't troll, I already explained it.

To guaruntee hit to kill shot ( specially against supersonic/balistic targets ) you need altitude control motors like patriot pac-3 and Aster family interceptors. Which current Siper block I lacks.
SIPER block ii is supposed to have full ABM capability. So, I suspect it would have those altitude control thrusters.
@Gary

 

[Joe mark]

Don't troll, I already explained it.

To garuntee hit to kill shot ( specially against supersonic/balistic targets ) you need altitude control motors like patriot pac-3 and Aster family interceptors. Which current Siper block I lacks.
SIPER block ii is supposed to have full ABM capability. So, I suspect it would have those altitude control thrusters.
@Gary

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-new...t-fires-siper-area-air-defence-missile/system
I'm not trolling, they has tested it against supersonic target drone (bahshee 80)

 

[Afif]

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-new...t-fires-siper-area-air-defence-missile/system
I'm not trolling, they has tested it against supersonic target drone (bahshee 80)

You don't understand, I said to GUARUNTEE a hit to kill shot ( specially with single interceptor ) altitude control motors are essential.

Other than that, more or less majority of medium range air defence systems can shoot down supersonic targets with a good warhead and a seeker. ( for example standard missile family )

Your link is showing 404.

Besides, bashee 80 is not supersonic. It has maximum speed of around 200 meters per second.

 

[R4duga]

Put this on your package too please.

previously i recommended such system to be installed, but then realize those thing kinda takes up space on the wing pylon which can be used for other stuff (ordnance or fuel tank), i would rather suggest Dorsal mounted EW suite, something like Elisra SPS 3000, i don't know if our current F-16 can handle dorsal housing upgrade for EW suite though.

 

[Umigami]

previously i recommended such system to be installed, but then realize those thing kinda takes up space on the wing pylon which can be used for other stuff (ordnance or fuel tank), i would rather suggest Dorsal mounted EW suite, something like Elisra SPS 3000, i don't know if our current F-16 can handle dorsal housing upgrade for EW suite though.

Our F16s rarely bring anything heavier than Mk82 anyway.

 

[Love Live!]

Lol all turkish air defense systems have hit to kill capablity including siper family

@Anmdt already explained it in this post https://defencehub.live/threads/ind...ndonesia-angkatan-laut-tni-al.697/post-243836
@Afif

 

[Umigami]

Pilot: How is it, Pak? Single engine isn't bad either, right? How about Viper update?

 

[Soman45]

Pilot: How is it, Pak? Single engine isn't bad either, right? How about Viper update?

Prabowo : Meh, Rafale is much better

 

[Umigami]

Prabowo : Meh, Rafale is much better

Madoka, tapping their com: CIH...!!