Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[Umigami]

" Upgraded ex-Austrian ones + 48 new units,"

Tranche one can get a great upgrade, as for the new units, go for tranche 3!

Airbus delivers first upgraded Tranche 1 Eurofighter to Spanish Air Force

Airbus has delivered the first upgraded Tranche 1 Eurofighter to the Spanish Air Force. The upgrade was carried out at Airbus facilities in Getafe and involved the introduction of hardware modifications which support the Operational Flight Program 02 (OFP-02) developed by the Armament and...

www.airbus.com

Probably will cost around 6-7 billions USD, but as I said, use multi-year contract.

Your post, Is that a "bocoran" or opinion?
Few years ago I was thinking Typhoon was kind of "ketinggalan jaman" compared to Rafale. No aesa, no multirole capability, etc.

But seems like they already catching up with newer tranche. We have to wait longer with brand new typhoon though.

 

[Kafkaesque]

Your post, Is that a "bocoran" or opinion?
Few years ago I was thinking Typhoon was kind of "ketinggalan jaman" compared to Rafale. No aesa, no multirole capability, etc.

But seems like they already catching up with newer tranche. We have to wait longer with brand new typhoon.

Why do you ask that? I want to keep that as mystery! It's a dream, my dream.

They are, it's the main fighter of some of Europe's major players (excluding France), they can't afford to be left behind.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1336632121599774720

 

[joedhie2k]

Rafale and Typhoon are sibling actually.. the French pull out from the programme because they need jet that can be launched from CVs.. which is why Rafale is smaller than Typhoon.

My guess is Typhoon ex-Austria will come as is.. and the sqd become operational by end of 2021.. then Rafale will start coming by mid 2023 or early 2024, and the sqd full operational by 2025.. so they will not consume lots of cost at the same time..

 

[San.geuk]

Rafale and Typhoon are sibling actually.. the French pull out from the programme because they need jet that can be launched from CVs.. which is why Rafale is smaller than Typhoon.

My guess is Typhoon ex-Austria will come as is.. and the sqd become operational by end of 2021.. then Rafale will start coming by mid 2023 or early 2024, and the sqd full operational by 2025.. so they will not consume lots of cost at the same time..

both rafale and f35 are CV STOL capable, my guess LHD will be in order 2024-2029, rafale or f35 can fill the air fighter wing in our LHD,

it reasonable if MoD choose rafale if LHD already in his plan

 

[Umigami]

both rafale and f35 are CV STOL capable, my guess LHD will be in order 2024-2029, rafale or f35 can fill the air fighter wing in our LHD,

it reasonable if MoD choose rafale if LHD already in his plan

Could rafale lauch without catapult?

 

[JATOSINT]

both rafale and f35 are CV STOL capable, my guess LHD will be in order 2024-2029, rafale or f35 can fill the air fighter wing in our LHD,

it reasonable if MoD choose rafale if LHD already in his plan

Are we really need an LHD-based aircraft that fast?

Not to mention F-35B 'inferiority' compared to the conventional F-35A (range, payload, maintenance, etc)

 

[R4duga]

LMAO , things got even more interesting
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Ae...S-nod-for-F-15-and-F-18-fighter-jet-purchases

 

[Umigami]

Gendeng.. gendeng...
I don't know what to say anymore.
Never come in my mind in the past there will be a time that we'll get so many choices like this!! (Not in a good way)

 

[Umigami]

Pedrason said the defense ministry under Subianto has a grand plan of procuring more than 100 superior fighter jets, to add to Indonesia's current fleet of less than 60. "We'll have around 170 fighter jets at the end of it. Extraordinary," Pedrason said.

 

[Caksakerah]

LMAO , things got even more interesting
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Ae...S-nod-for-F-15-and-F-18-fighter-jet-purchases
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‘Pedrason said the defense ministry under Subianto has a grand plan of procuring more than 100 superior fighter jets, to add to Indonesia's current fleet of less than 60. "We'll have around 170 fighter jets at the end of it. Extraordinary," Pedrason said.’

Crazy indeed. Hope its the latest iteration of the fighter.

 

[Parry Brima]

LMAO , things got even more interesting
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Ae...S-nod-for-F-15-and-F-18-fighter-jet-purchases
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That's bloody mouth-watering. How can you say no to F-15? I can't

 

[R4duga]

‘Pedrason said the defense ministry under Subianto has a grand plan of procuring more than 100 superior fighter jets, to add to Indonesia's current fleet of less than 60. "We'll have around 170 fighter jets at the end of it. Extraordinary," Pedrason said.’

Crazy indeed. Hope its the latest iteration of the fighter.

my assumption is it's a combination of Interceptor , multirole and LIFT .

 

[Ravager]

I don't know what brand is prabowo smoking this day but he got to pass me some ....


Damn ...

 

[R4duga]

I don't know what brand is prabowo smoking this day but he got to pass me some ....


Damn ...

hey atleast he's the type of "Go big or go home" .

 

[JATOSINT]

Anyway

Don't forget to talk about human resources. Do we currently have enough pilots, ground crew, etc?

 

[Aassdimenso]

LMAO , things got even more interesting
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Ae...S-nod-for-F-15-and-F-18-fighter-jet-purchases
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[l3onhard]

LMAO , things got even more interesting
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Ae...S-nod-for-F-15-and-F-18-fighter-jet-purchases
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Looks like US wants to win indo's fighter procurement from eu countries. Let's see what news will come tomorrow

 

[Ravager]

hey atleast he's the type of "Go big or go home" .

It's his trademark actually ... But , logistic aside it take a decade of hard works and leniency just to fill all of those jobs slot ( pilot , crew etc )

 

[Madokafc]

Anyway

Don't forget to talk about human resources. Do we currently have enough pilots, ground crew, etc?

Can be trained, but will be burdensome and not at adequate level. The experience during major expansion in early 60's is the great example on how actually level of readiness of any units is far bellow of 40 percentage