Another magical carrier path...from MP/Provost background to become chief of KOSTRAD
get anticipate for the next path : chief of Army....or even more...chief of TNI
Yeahh....all these silly political lust....makes it possible
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Another magical carrier path...from MP/Provost background to become chief of KOSTRAD
MP/Provost background? The new Pangkostrad came from the Inf corps and spent a large part of his mil career in KopassusAnother magical carrier path...from MP/Provost background to become chief of KOSTRAD
get anticipate for the next path : chief of Army....or even more...chief of TNI
Yeahh....all these silly political lust....makes it possible
Alright....my bad...I was wrongly concluded from the glimpse reading of his military carrier history since he also serve many years in the PASPAMPRES unit.MP/Provost background? The new Pangkostrad came from the Inf corps and spent a large part of his mil career in Kopassus
Why are we wasting time and efforts to RnD MLRS in this caliber? for a 90mm rocket, I'd rather have it as shoulder-launch direct-fire munition for infantry teams. 90mm will provide too small of coverage for saturation attack. Our 122mm RHAN should be the minimum for MLRSExplaination of MLRS Busur Geni calibre 90 mm
The Poltekad Research and Development Team which in this case was represented by Major Arh Moh. Ali, ST. Explaining the MLRS Busur Geni AND 90 MM ROCKET, starting from the history of why it is called Busur Geni, the aims and objectives of R&D to specifications and technical matters.
It looks good by all meansIt could be a passive radar, like that was made by ITB. The radome and the vehicle is different though.
Tak Ingin Ketinggalan, Balitbang Kemhan dan LAPI ITB Garap Radar Pasif Mobile
Berita tentang rencana pengadaan radar pasif untuk pengamanan di Pulau Natuna rupanya membawa angin segar pada dunia litbang alutsista di Tanah Air. Era penggunaan radar pasif jelas memberi efek deteren, pasalnya sistem radar pasif mampu mendeteksi sasaran secara senyap, karena tidak memancarkan...www.indomiliter.com
There is another radar made by Balitbang and PT RTI, it is for air defense
As you can see, that's the entire point: Making it smaller and therefore more compact for use in lesser intensity conflicts. The bigger and smaller caliber rockets serve different functions and don't necessarily substitute one another. 122mm class is for "field artillery" function, saturating large area in higher intensity for bigger conflict across larger areas of operation. While these 90mm rockets could be used as somewhat akin to the role of "mortar" in their range and firepower. Their small size allows for greater flexibility and for a lower level of deployment, as you can see they can be easily transported by a single truck and by helicopter.Why are we wasting time and efforts to RnD MLRS in this caliber? for a 90mm rocket, I'd rather have it as shoulder-launch direct-fire munition for infantry teams. 90mm will provide too small of coverage for saturation attack. Our 122mm RHAN should be the minimum for MLRS
As you can see, that's the entire point: Making it smaller and therefore more compact for use in lesser intensity conflicts. The bigger and smaller caliber rockets serve different functions and don't necessarily substitute one another. 122mm class is for "field artillery" function, saturating large area in higher intensity for bigger conflict across larger areas of operation. While these 90mm rockets could be used as somewhat akin to the role of "mortar" in their range and firepower. Their small size allows for greater flexibility and for a lower level of deployment, as you can see they can be easily transported by a single truck and by helicopter.
Suppose we talk about potentially deploying rockets to Poso, in which geography severely limits mobility.... so how are we suppose to deploy them then? these 122m MLRS are too big and bulky for the rugged terrain there. The same logic applies to Papua in which we rarely ever deploy trucks heavier than Toyota Hilux, why? obviously, because the terrain cannot support bulkier vehicles, but then apparently we going to only use 122mm class exclusively? that's your idea?
Sorry, I don't think this rant is either fair or warranted. If you feel the discussion here is too low for your intelligence level, then please feel free to start or initiate more discussion or even better; educate us on it. Otherwise, feel free to leave for the greener pasture. My background is in engineering and I was fortunate enough to be involved in the defense industry when I started my career, albeit I've now moved on from it, so I can only comment on what is within my scope. Unlike some people, I won't start talking about things I have no idea about unless it is something that's worthwhile to contribute to the discussion.I have an issue with a defense forum like this. The people here all talk about technical things over and over again. Enlightening, but that's not the only thing that matters in the military. People talk about weaponry as if it is a magic bullet, that only the weapon itself matters and it wins the war instantly depending on how strong the magical weapon is. But they completely forget to consider the strategic environment, how the weapons can be used effectively in that environment. When is the last time strategy is actually discussed here? I've been in this community for years and I cannot even recall any substantial discussion on it.
If the technical aspect of a war is the only thing that matters, then why do military command schools, all primarily teach non-technical materials? Why do USCGSC, Seskoad, NDU, focus on teaching social sciences and not technical sciences? This is the issue here, we never ever discuss the tactics, nor the strategy, or even actually consider the national security situation. This is why we keep falling into the blunder of forgetting to think about HOW we are going to use WHAT, thinking everything is one fits all, and that magic bullet can solve everything.
These RnD activities are carried out by different agencies. This 90mm is developed by Poltekad, while R-Han is Kemhan-PTDI project. So they don't supplant each other, they go in parallel, for a different purpose, by different researchers. You could criticize the technical aspect, but as for their potential use as a finished product (not yet), you cannot just assume out of nowhere it's unfit or anything, with no solid basis. I use Poso as an example, to visualize the geographic situation of a rural mountainous jungle environment with narrow passages, in which R-Han and ASTROS will have difficulty operating but that this Busur Geni may do better. Besides Poltekad itself is still small in size and budget, if this is what they can afford then let them do it. Their sphere of responsibility is different from national-level agencies like MoD and PTDI, as they are seeing it from Army tactical perspective. I mean what the heck, this prototype has nothing to do with army squad loadout, that's for another discussion.We are financially-strapped armed forces, we need to make sure these RnD activities can and will lead to something tangible, it's good if like what Madokafc said the army is keen to adopt it.
Don't you watch the video? Busur Geni is transported by trucks, like towed artillery. I never suggest that BG is a replacement for mortars, I just use it as an analogy of how BG could be used, like mortar not replace mortar. And then you are assuming it is to be used for sustained suppression (longer), I don't imagine that to be the proper use of them, but fire support could be (shorter).All MLRS that I'm aware of is all mounted and transported in a single truck unless you're talking about the logistic support truck? Besides, I'm not sure you want to replace Mortar with MLRS one-to-one. Mortar is there for sustained suppression and fire support due to its faster reload and smaller logistic footprints. The same can't really be said with MLRS, once the tube is all fired then the crew would need to manually load back all the tubes, even KorMar RM-70 with great ergonomics for reloading still takes a while to be loaded, wired, and primed for firing.
Again, I use Poso for visualization. I mean we have a lot of areas like Poso/ Central Sulawesi in this country, in which ASTROS or RHAN may not operate there as efficiently as in flatter and wider grounds. So there's a gap there, as apparently, TNI needs MLRS in a more compact size, that can be transported by lighter vehicle/ not heavy nor mounted. Be it 90mm, 100mm, 100mm, the requirement is that it has to be compact, smaller than RHAN, and probably for troops fire support rather than outright saturation. If you ask me then it'll probably be for bunker-busting purposes, where a certain point needs to be neutralized fast instead of by longer duration sustained fire.Why do we even want or need to deploy MLRS to Poso, to begin with? MLRS is utilized against saturated forces, not some scattered jihadis where there are less than dozen of them, what's the logic behind that if I may ask? I can definitely see the use of Compact MLRS in Papua, albeit not in the fashion that you describe it and especially not in the current conflict where the cost of collateral damage can be really politically high.
It's not about which or who is better, but we need to expand our perspective. I'm not trying to discredit technical discussion because well they are essential, no doubt about it. But that by only looking from the technical-engineering side of military affairs, we lose sight of the other thing that is important too. When we discuss technical things and weaponry, we actually only talk about the means, the capacity, the tools. But any activity is not only about the tools, but many other things as well. There's the means, the way, and the ends, but we mostly discuss the means only, but forget how we gonna use means, to begin with. As you can see, from a technical perspective, and normative bias, this thing might not look ideal. But if you consider the strategic environment and our doctrine, then you'll see that the idea of BG somewhat makes more sense.Sorry, I don't think this rant is either fair or warranted. If you feel the discussion here is too low for your intelligence level, then please feel free to start or initiate more discussion or even better; educate us on it. Otherwise, feel free to leave for the greener pasture. My background is in engineering and I was fortunate enough to be involved in the defense industry when I started my career, albeit I've now moved on from it, so I can only comment on what is within my scope. Unlike some people, I won't start talking about things I have no idea about unless it is something that's worthwhile to contribute to the discussion.
How many terrorists killed?
any leaks from PT 76 equipped with CT CV 3105 turret?
No such plan. Is that even possible?any leaks from PT 76 equipped with CT CV 3105 turret?
Srry, i mean with LCTS 90MPTurret, from CocerillNo such plan. Is that even possible?
0:50 : "Selain itu [...] masih dalam jangkauan peluru kendali antar benua negara tertentu..." ([The new capital] is still in the range of intercontinental missile fielded by a certain country).