Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

[Umigami]

Sorry, video in Indonesian.

Bigger personal capacity, speed and Safran engine option. Maybe that's why.

 

[R4duga]

Sorry, video in Indonesian.

Bigger personal capacity, speed and Safran engine option. Maybe that's why.

seriously, why don't they just stick with H225M if they didn't get blackhawk though ?

 

[Umigami]

seriously, why don't they just stick with H225M if they didn't get blackhawk though ?

Speed equal to Guardian?

 

[R4duga]

Speed equal to Guardian?

equal no, but pretty close i guess, and much more faster than 412.

 

[Twentix]

Sorry, video in Indonesian.

Bigger personal capacity, speed and Safran engine option. Maybe that's why.

Maybe, Army will use the CT7 engine instead of Safran. CT7 is in one Family with T700 used on Guardian(and Blackhawk). But, i aware that safran option is "maybe" good because we have MoU with them about MRO of Rafale's engine in our SOE (still need new MoU if we want to locally mro that engine).

 

[Umigami]

equal no, but pretty close i guess, and much more faster than 412.

AW189 military version.

Put a good defensive system and find a way to give door gunner on it, good enough I guess.

 

[R4duga]

Maybe, Army will use the CT7 engine instead of Safran. CT7 is in one Family with T700 used on Guardian(and Blackhawk). But, i aware that safran option is "maybe" good because we have MoU with them about MRO of Rafale's engine in our SOE (still need new MoU if we want to locally mro that engine).

this one is kind of reasonable.

 

[HellFireIndo]

AW189 military version.

Put a good defensive system and find a way to give door gunner on it, good enough I guess.

Watching a helicopter like this makes me remember the time spent on the RE4 game. The part when you are aided by the helicopter armed with cool minigun and rocket.

 

[Mandala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1491240926886653952

 

[lemons]

Singapore Airshow 2022: Momentum swing puts Indonesian V-22 order in jeopardy | Shephard

An Indonesian V-22 Osprey deal looks increasingly unlikely.

www.shephardmedia.com

"‘Nothing is ever dead, but there is no additional activity going on right now and the customer has suffered from paying bills as a result of COVID-19,’ said Randy Rotte, senior director for Asia-Pacific and India business development at Boeing, during a 15 February media briefing."

No money for Osprey?

 

[Madokafc]

Singapore Airshow 2022: Momentum swing puts Indonesian V-22 order in jeopardy | Shephard

An Indonesian V-22 Osprey deal looks increasingly unlikely.

www.shephardmedia.com

"‘Nothing is ever dead, but there is no additional activity going on right now and the customer has suffered from paying bills as a result of COVID-19,’ said Randy Rotte, senior director for Asia-Pacific and India business development at Boeing, during a 15 February media briefing."

No money for Osprey?

It was not a top priority for acquisition program in the first place (heavy lift helicopters program), on other hand additional utility helicopters is much more urgent

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1493870294351507456

 

[this is crunch]

Singapore Airshow 2022: Momentum swing puts Indonesian V-22 order in jeopardy | Shephard

An Indonesian V-22 Osprey deal looks increasingly unlikely.

www.shephardmedia.com

"‘Nothing is ever dead, but there is no additional activity going on right now and the customer has suffered from paying bills as a result of COVID-19,’ said Randy Rotte, senior director for Asia-Pacific and India business development at Boeing, during a 15 February media briefing."

No money for Osprey?

"Circumstances have changed dramatically since 2020, with Indonesia now committed to orders worth more than $20 billion for 42 Dassault Rafale and 36 Boeing F-15ID fighter jets, probably financed by foreign loans.

Even if more money was to be somehow allocated for the V-22 buy, an order would have to be placed relatively soon as US production could be shut down by 2024."


Why the production is so short lived?

 

[Madokafc]

"Circumstances have changed dramatically since 2020, with Indonesia now committed to orders worth more than $20 billion for 42 Dassault Rafale and 36 Boeing F-15ID fighter jets, probably financed by foreign loans.

Even if more money was to be somehow allocated for the V-22 buy, an order would have to be placed relatively soon as US production could be shut down by 2024."


Why the production is so short lifed?

To give way for other Type tiltrotor aircraft

 

[HellFireIndo]

"Circumstances have changed dramatically since 2020, with Indonesia now committed to orders worth more than $20 billion for 42 Dassault Rafale and 36 Boeing F-15ID fighter jets, probably financed by foreign loans.

Even if more money was to be somehow allocated for the V-22 buy, an order would have to be placed relatively soon as US production could be shut down by 2024."


Why the production is so short lived?

Speedrun for it then

 

[this is crunch]

Speedrun for it then

IMO, better swith to Chinook instead of Osprey

 

[this is crunch]

IMO, better swith to Chinook instead of Osprey

UAE could get 10 chinook for under than $1 Bil,

United Arab Emirates (UAE) – CH-47F Chinook Cargo Helicopters | Defense Security Cooperation Agency

www.dsca.mil

but if we could get both, why not

 

[Parry Brima]

IMO, better swith to Chinook instead of Osprey

US Army have their own new project for vertical lift. It's now between V-280 Valor (Bell & Lockheed Martin) and SB-1 Defiant (Sikorsky & Boeing).

If TNI AD want to wait, definitely more options for them.

 

[R4duga]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1491038552242929669

 

[Mandala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1494556551017025536