Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

[FPXAllen]

It is not about mentality, it is basically how most of them run the business. Even the brightess mind will find it hard to place long term plan to happen due to rules, regulation, etc. This situation force them in a way to only able to conduct short term plan thus becoming opportunist.

I think "run the state-owned enterprises" will be more fitting here. They're neck deep with bureaucracy and unrelated whatnots like having to document and display the visitations of mr. X or mrs.Y who are more often than not have no real business there. Or that their wives' also think that they're important enough to exist in the company's news front page, and so on, and so on...

Gahhh!!!

While there are some private companies here that can design and produce much better things at (probably) much lower cost, but yeah, we all know how tight their grips on the market in this country which is already small to begin with.

 

[JATOSINT]

Great response and transparency by AD

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427237639443214344

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427236369298956289

 

[NEKO]

Many improvements were made to the tank during the transition from prototype to mass production. In this context, driver visibility and handling ergonomics have been improved. The body design was perfected in line with the feedback from the end user.

Based on the experiences gained from the tests, improvements were made in the tower system, power transmission group, cooling system and suspension system.

Seri üretimdeki Kaplan tankı IDEF'te boy gösterecek

Fuarda, Türk savunma sanayisinin tank sınıfında ihraç ettiği ilk araç Kaplan MT'nin seri üretim konfigürasyonu tanıtılacak. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

There is LCD screen for the driver, does the driver have night vision cam like the gunner and commander? So they can drive it without turning on the light.

 

[Madokafc]

Yonkav 11/MSC

Notes their newly distributed vest

 

[NEKO]

Yonkav 11/MSC
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Notes their newly distributed vest

For the whole yonkav(including the tanker) or just the foot soldier?

How about getting new uniform specialized for our tanker?

 

[Madokafc]

For the whole yonkav(including the tanker) or just the foot soldier?

How about getting new uniform specialized for our tanker?

Tanker would use tanker overall suit

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Tanker would use tanker overall suit

Did every tank-man own that luxury ?

 

[Madokafc]

Did every tank-man own that luxury ?

Should be in near future

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Should be in near future

Even all along Amx 13, there's no such thing called Tank-man suite in TNI inventory (except helmet)

 

[trishna_amrta]

How about getting new uniform specialized for our tanker?

Tanker would use tanker overall suit

Mantap.. Proyek... Proyek...

 

[Mandala]

Ok now this new Kaplan NG-AFV hull is exactly the same as the Medium Tank APC. Will this be the Medium Tank APC/IFV? Credit to Stuka.

IDEF 2021 News & Discussion Updates

Those two protocols are probably connected. TF-2000 will have multistatic sonar capability. Multistatic sonars, ASW USVs, ASW UAVs will be nightmares for enemy subs.

defencehub.live

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Ok now this new Kaplan 20 hull is exactly the same as the Medium Tank APC. Will this be the Medium Tank APC/IFV? Credit to Stuka.

IDEF 2021 News & Discussion Updates

Those two protocols are probably connected. TF-2000 will have multistatic sonar capability. Multistatic sonars, ASW USVs, ASW UAVs will be nightmares for enemy subs.

defencehub.live

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Need a rework on the crew compartmen and powerpack.

This is why i always pick front located power pack rather than in rear, beacuse of its generability to be concerted into TD, SPG, APC, etc.

 

[Mandala]

 

[R4duga]

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let those AMX VCI rest, really hoping we buy bulk of this (either used for battle taxi purpose or pure AFV).

 

[Anmdt]

Ok now this new Kaplan NG-AFV hull is exactly the same as the Medium Tank APC. Will this be the Medium Tank APC/IFV? Credit to Stuka.

IDEF 2021 News & Discussion Updates

Those two protocols are probably connected. TF-2000 will have multistatic sonar capability. Multistatic sonars, ASW USVs, ASW UAVs will be nightmares for enemy subs.

defencehub.live

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Told you when Pindad has leaked those images, that all of those were things available in FNSS's brochures (that is made available to partners ans customers). Sadly they took it and made it available in their own as if their own product.

 

[GraveDigger388]

Told you when Pindad has leaked those images, that all of those were things available in FNSS's brochures (that is made available to partners ans customers). Sadly they took it and made it available in their own as if their own product.

Pardon my language, but that's fucking scummy, holy shit.

How did you guys manage to put up with that I have no idea.

 

[wekiweko]

Didn't the one who designed it were Pindad and FNSS ?

AFAIK based on inputs from end user

 

[wekiweko]

What do you mean?

Product improvement is quite normal.
And for a prototype to have a lot of change that is jot so surprising.

what surprising are (i) the surprise from the end users and (ii) the rampant narratives that in short says Pindad and FNSS produced a flawed tank design, when it is actually based on the inputs from the end users

 

[wekiweko]

well hopefully the improvements made to Kaplan/Harimau Hitam will satisfy all parties involved and we can move forward with serial productions of the tank to replace those obsolete 13s and Scorpions

 

[FPXAllen]

well hopefully the improvements made to Kaplan/Harimau Hitam will satisfy all parties involved and we can move forward with serial productions of the tank to replace those obsolete 13s and Scorpions

Since Indonesian Army will be the sole user of the tank for the foreseeable future, I still hope - albeit, most likely, vainly - that they will state it as it really is: It is a tank developed for Indonesian Army which most of the works were done by FNSS.

Anyway, I usually have some reservations anytime we became the first export customer for any military hardwares. But I make an exception for this, especially considering that even though the tank is the first tank export of FNSS, but this was developed with our army's specifications and requirements in mind.