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"Elang hitam" uav?
even something like puna wulung use rotax engine + rockwell collins made electro optics camera , but that one UAV from navy is dubious though , i didn't see any optical sensor incorporated to that UAV , previously the same amphibious concept drone like that made by domestic company the OS Wifanusa , atleast shown to have optical camera under it's nose + it's own dedicated control station .

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compared to navy one which shown to still use portable remote control transmitter .
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even something like puna wulung use rotax engine + rockwell collins made electro optics camera , but that one UAV from navy is dubious though , i didn't see any optical sensor incorporated to that UAV , previously the same amphibious concept drone like that made by domestic company the OS Wifanusa , atleast shown to have optical camera under it's nose + it's own dedicated control station .

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compared to navy one which shown to still use portable remote control transmitter .
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seems to me it's about pride n project ...
and also the owner OS Wifanusa banned by the goverment for posting presiden photo ...


btw kemhan already order it from OS-Wifanusa

 
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ashm are capable to sink a ship

If only you load 500 kg plus of TNT , otherwise its only capable to sink warship with tonnage less than 1000 tons.

Remember exocet wich struck one of british ship at flaklan ? Its only hit, never made even to cripple it.

The only one that make sense fo Sub launched is cruise / balistic missile for preemptive strike.

One aspect that subs mus fufill is total silence .

FLIR is a brand

I thought it was abbrevation of "Forward Looking InfaRed". But you got the point, the one wich not merge into strategic planning only gone to 1001 prototype collections.

BPPT to improve the design more

Even wulung took so much time for "penyempurnaan", one should never go into mass productions if didnt have proper funds and planning.
 

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seems to me it's about pride n project ...
and also the owner OS Wifanusa banned by the goverment for posting presiden photo ...


btw kemhan already order it from OS-Wifanusa

The only notable feature of that UAS is being amphibious, but there are a lot more capability that I suspect that UAS do not have, particularly in the terrain following, obstacle avoidance, collision avoidance, and target tracking. All those capabilities need to be automated.
 

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Pretty sure Japan will defeat Naval Group and TKMS and win this tender easily if they recruited Maria Ozawa as their sales representatives.
What if buy from both of them?
MILF aside ... Like it or not she is one of the rarer foreigner that doesn't looked us down in their first impression on us . But i prefer the newer generation tho'

Let say ..... Marin hinata . The theme were quite an add up for her .
Who?
why bother with exocet when we can have a better one such as the NSM?
Can it be launched from a submarine?
 

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they should develop another version of the UAV called MADRE, would be interesting if you put PUTA and MADRE side by side and announce the name in sequence
 

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I just heard about it now. Is it only about posting the president photo or there is another political in nature?
Sebagaimana diketahui, Yulius Paonganan alias Ongen ditetapkan sebagai tersangka dan ditahan oleh petugas Subdit Cyber Crime Dittipideksus Bareskrim Polri karena mem-posting foto Presiden Joko Widodo (Jokowi) bersama artis Nikita Mirzani dan membubuhkan tagar dengan kata-kata tidak terpuji.


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That's the 3rd Mogami (that's launched today). In front of it there's the 4th Mogami. This is the MHI shipyard in Nagasaki. They also use other shipyard in Tamano to build Mogami.

Japan signed a deal for 8 Mogami (out of 22 planned). The plan is to produce a pair each year.

With this speed, we might see the launching of our first Mogami soon.

(it's even sooner IF after the 4th Mogami they decided to reallocate the next 4 to us)
 

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That's the 3rd Mogami (that's launched today). In front of it there's the 4th Mogami. This is the MHI shipyard in Nagasaki. They also use other shipyard in Tamano to build Mogami.

Japan signed a deal for 8 Mogami (out of 22 planned). The plan is to produce a pair each year.

With this speed, we might see the launching of our first Mogami soon.

(it's even sooner IF after the 4th Mogami they decided to reallocate the next 4 to us)
Do we even already sign the contract for mogami ?
 

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If we already choose IH and FREMM I hope we won't buy Mogami class.
 

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2 IH + 6 FREMM + 8 30FFM = 16
Wait a sec... didn't the navy want to buy 16 or something frigate?
Does maestrale included or not?
 

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I have explained about Prof Yulian Paonganan awhile back, His professor colleagues already noticed that his arrest was political, he is actually anti-Zackwee from the start and that case is only used as "casus belli" for his arrest.

When the officers came to his house they searched about islamic and "terrorist" attributes, unfortunately they couldn't find anything because he was never a muslim from the start.
 

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2 IH + 6 FREMM + 8 30FFM = 16
Wait a sec... didn't the navy want to buy 16 or something frigate?
Does maestrale included or not?

From brownwater coastal Navies suddenly emerged as Big Greenwater Navy bordering to the blue ones (minus Air arm based on flat top platform and land strike Submarine platform)
 

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From brownwater coastal Navies suddenly emerged as Big Greenwater Navy bordering to the blue ones (minus Air arm based on flat top platform and land strike Submarine platform)
its a must, or we get crush any soon. Even if all of IH and Fremm already delivered, its still cant block if 🇨🇳 try to enter our water with its southern fleet.


The prestige of "strogest navy in south hemisphere" one way or another must be gained back.
 

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that's why for heavy combatant at least we need;
- 3 dedicated aaw destroyer (orizonte class) with radar configuration of apar block 2 + smart l mk2 with 64 cells for aster 30 block 1nt
- 20 frigates; 4 iver aaw + 8 fremm GP + 8 fremm ASW
- 7 martadinata class with current configuration.

estimation: ~$25 billion
 

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From brownwater coastal Navies suddenly emerged as Big Greenwater Navy bordering to the blue ones (minus Air arm based on flat top platform and land strike Submarine platform)

Don't worry, we'll put F35B on LHD and land-attack MdCN on Scorpene ;)
 
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