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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...esian-drilling-military-exercises-2021-12-01/
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have you guys noticed a pattern, whenever prabowo meet with chinese minister of defence, the next couple of day, china would make a threatening or dubious action.

this happened before too if i remember correctly.

"dude will you make a fuss about our sovereignty so that i will have a basis reasoning to convince my fellow minister to amped up our defense budget"
 

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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...esian-drilling-military-exercises-2021-12-01/
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have you guys noticed a pattern, whenever prabowo meet with chinese minister of defence, the next couple of day, china would make a threatening or dubious action.

this happened before too if i remember correctly.

"dude will you make a fuss about our sovereignty so that i will have a basis reasoning to convince my fellow minister to amped up our defense budget"
If you referred to yesterday meeting, I don't think so

The article said that China told us to stop the drilling activity earlier this year
 

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If you referred to yesterday meeting, I don't think so

The article said that China told us to stop the drilling activity earlier this year
thanks for your correction.

so it was an old news that get "digoreng" again ?
 

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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...esian-drilling-military-exercises-2021-12-01/
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have you guys noticed a pattern, whenever prabowo meet with chinese minister of defence, the next couple of day, china would make a threatening or dubious action.

this happened before too if i remember correctly.

"dude will you make a fuss about our sovereignty so that i will have a basis reasoning to convince my fellow minister to amped up our defense budget"

If you referred to yesterday meeting, I don't think so

The article said that China told us to stop the drilling activity earlier this year
So that's why she got kind of mad?
 

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thanks for your correction.

so it was an old news that get "digoreng" again ?

"Farhan told Reuters Indonesia's government played down the tension of the standoff publicly. Its leaders wanted to be "as silent as possible because, if it was leaked to any media, it would create a diplomatic incident," he said."
 

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"Farhan told Reuters Indonesia's government played down the tension of the standoff publicly. Its leaders wanted to be "as silent as possible because, if it was leaked to any media, it would create a diplomatic incident," he said."
So it is not 'digoreng lagi' but instead 'gorengan pertama' :D


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Some news make what reason behind China protest of oil drilling in Tuna Block clearer. One of them is 🇮🇩 considered presistant agains China claims while do multilateral excercise on the area, legitimatr 🇮🇩 sovereignity over North Natuna Sea, meanwhile 🇮🇩also sits as one of China major marketplace.

While Shandong active at SCS last time, China still has worrysome that the appearance of one of its Carrier in disputed SCS will attract 3rd party CSG (Probably British, while americano standby at guam whit their handfull of bomber). Thus situations make China lose upperhand, more over if we try to speculate it with Chinese effort to invade Taiwan.

As history tell as Mangkunegara 1 surrender to triple alliance, China could face such fate if in this point insisted to take both SCS & Taiwan.
 

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Didn't a while back there is US carrier group sailing somewhere nearby?
Is it their own initiative or we have some discussion about this with the US regarding USN activity near Natuna.
 

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Didn't a while back there is US carrier group sailing somewhere nearby?
AFAIK, the 🇺🇸 CSG only pass back then. Few moths ago they also conduct bilateral excercise with one of SEA nation. While, British CSG still roaming around pacific.

Is it their own initiative or we have some discussion about this with the US regarding USN activity near Natuna.
My best bet anything about 🇺🇸 actuvity at sea has high probability to secure their interest. Since 🇺🇸 never Sign UNCLOS, it's mean they insisted the freedom of navigations over the sea.

Not only for 🇮🇩, for the 🇺🇸 facing open war with 🇨🇳 is cause more dilemma. Well, you know you need $ for funding the military.
 

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Didn't a while back there is US carrier group sailing somewhere nearby?
AFAIK, the 🇺🇸 CSG only pass back then. Few moths ago they also conduct bilateral excercise with one of SEA nation. While, British CSG still roaming around pacific.

The USN always maintain at least 1 CSG in the Pacific, the Ronald Reagan CSG is permanently port called in Yokosuka Japan. This year though had seen a hike in the number of US+Allied CSG running around with the QE2 CSG on top of USN Ronald Reagan CSG + Carl Vinson CSG.

for people who kept constant watch, the USN had been surging and ramping up their carrier presence on top of naval exercise since the Theodore Roosevelt got pulled into Guam after suffering Covid outbreak and left the Chinese as the sole carrier operator in the Pacific for a few months in 2020.
 

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We can see TERMA 4603 radar already installed

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